Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 (/pro) [WHYRED][China/Global] ***(Please read first post)***

corkie

Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 (/pro) [WHYRED][China/Global] ***(Please read first post)***

Preparing this thread for the upcoming Global Version release of the Redmi Note 5, with Band 3,7 and 20 Support!

Note: - The thread will be mainly for discussion of that particular device, but if your posting about one of the alternative versions, please state the version you have, or incorrect advice might be given to you.

Device Variations: -
Redmi Note 5 [India]: - is just a re-branded china Redmi 5 plus
Redmi Note 5 Pro [India]: - Similar device lacking Band 20 and variation in Camera's used.
Redmi Note 5 [China]: - Same as device you should be getting but lacks Band Support.
Redmi Note 5A:- Cheap entry level device and not a true successor to the note series.

Possible places to Order: -
(Check listings for Band Support and right variation of device)

Xiaomi Official Amazon Spain.
Aliexpress: - Hong Kong Goldway and Mi Global Store (DHL is tax free for EU customers)
EU Warehouse form: - Honorbuy or alternative retailers.
The Solution Shop: - Use with caution, they had logistics problem lately, late filling orders and reports of bad CS.
Check other recommend retailers in this thread or reddit wiki!


Why you should be getting the Global version over China/India Version?

The global version will support Bands 3,7 and 20 for LTE coverage in the EU. (Band 3 & 20(800)) are the versions used here. Although the other variations will work here in cities but may not get LTE in the country locations.

I will repeat myself, check the specs carefully before ordering.



When will the Global Version be available to buy? When to Buy?

At the date/time of this post, it is only rumored to be made available soon.
Some sites, had place holder listings up the week prior to China release, so be careful who a where you order from, they may try to pass a China/India version as a global version, and you could risk vendor roms as well.
Contact the seller of the device before ordering for verification or post a link and ask in this thread.

I would be waiting a Month or two, for prices to stabilize and globally availability!



Final Words

Thought I would start this thread, as is suspect this will be a popular device. Also to clarify a few good points beforehand. Hope it helps you in your purchase choice.

My Redmi Note 3 Pro [Kenzo] is still serving me well, so I will probably wait until July/August to purchase and see what custom rom support is available.



EDIT - 15/07/2018

Warning! MIUI 10 Oreo's Anti-Rollback Feature.
Do not update your rom past
Beta 8.7.5 or Stable 9.5.17,
if you want to enjoy custom roms or avoid bricking your devices. And also avoid flashing newer firmware.

More information in these posts: -

[MIUI 10] Important Announcement about Updating of Redmi Note 5

How To Check Anti RollBack On Xiaomi Devices || Explained!

WHYRED MIUI 10 Oreo's Anti-Rollback <<< Possible method to get around ARP!

corkie

Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Standard Edition Dual SIM TD-LTE IN MEG7S (Xiaomi Whyred)

https://spek.telset.id/40106/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-pro-standard-edition-dual-sim-td-lte-in-meg7s-xiaomi-whyred/

Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Standard Edition Dual SIM TD-LTE CN 32GB MEE7S (Xiaomi Whyred)

https://spek.telset.id/50137/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-standard-edition-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-32gb-mee7s-xiaomi-whyred/

Both device's using the same code name WHYRED

China version as mentioned before has not got USB Type C, but will have Oreo!

If it has support for Treble is another thing, as china version doesn't use Google Play Services. So the device may not need to support it.

Hopefully they base the global version on china version!

Only India models are made there, so global will be CN based.

corkie

corkie wrote: »

Redmi Note 5 [China] Announced!


[News] All You Want to Know About Redmi Note 5 (China): Display, Camera, Specs and More


Xiaomi launches updated Redmi Note 5 with brighter camera, AI


Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Launched in China for 1,099 Yuan (~$173); Features AI Dual Camera, 18:9 Display, Snapdragon 636, 6 GB RAM



Some of them sites mention USB Type C and Oreo Based MIUI, that have not been confirmed by official sources.

Edit: - Official site: - http://www.mi.com/redminote5/specs/


Edit 2: - Specs here: - https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_5_(china)-9120.php

No USB Type C listed, Confirmed Oreo based!

...

Boards.ie: Mark

Moved to Android Devices forum. Please make sure you read and follow the forum's charter.

GBX

Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Android 8.1 Oreo update can now be flashed on Indian model, brings Project Treble support


As above - confusion as to which phone is which - as per the link in this article, this phone is on already on Tomtop - €472.76~

corkie

China version went on sale today! Confirmed 8.1 Oreo with Treble Support!

Thanks @GBX for XDA link.

Also confirmed the China and India version both share the same codename "WHYRED" so roms should be compatible for both.


@Boards.ie: Mark thanks for moving the thread on my request!


Edit: -

C4ETech: Redmi Note 5 Pro vs Redmi Note 3 Speedtest Comparison - Is 650 Greater Than 636?

C4ETech: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro vs Redmi Note 4 Speedtest Comparison!

fixXxer

Looking forward to this device. Probably going to be my next upgrade.

Edit: Any sites have the Pro listed yet? I've seen a few listings that look like a mix between the Note 5 and Note 5 pro.

corkie

BUYER BEWARE! Aliexpress Sale for RN5[Global].

Two minds if to mention this at all.


Xiaomi Online Store has the Global Device Listed with incorrect specs. (Not an official xiaomi store)

Multiple errors in there listing for Global Version.

• Camera is Indian version.
• Android 7 instead of Oreo.
• No Dual Sim support

Two CDMA SIM cards cannot work at the same time (when one chooses 4G Network, the other SIM card has no Signal.)

Never trusted them since they use to label themselves as "Xiaomi Authorized Store"

Also no VAT free shipping for EU, so any savings of the sale, would be over written with VAT fees.

Tips: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Global Version has not arrived, it is pre-sale for now.
Expected 24 April starting shipping

The idea to get the reduced price on day of sale, is to put in your cart before the 28th. And also get a select coupon for the store to reduce the price more.

Edit: - Also aliexpress is known to inflate the price to make the appearance of a sale/deal!

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Edit 2: -

[XDA] Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro can now dual boot ROMs with MultiROM
XDA Forum Thread: - MultiROM [Whyred]

^^^^ Should also work with the China/Global version of the device.

GBX

Still dubious about specs doing the rounds but I noticed the following "Global Version" has B20 listed

https://www.banggood.com/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-5-Global-Version-5_99-inch-4GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Snapdragon-636-Octa-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1268372.html?utm_campaign=Kimo30&utm_content=Rosalia&p=QV2409786796201409DB&cur_warehouse=HK

banie01

So I pulled the trigger on the Blue 4GB/64GB from Goldway this morning.
Its a birthday present for the kid to replace his Galaxy S6 but the wife has her eye on it as a demo for her next phone too
All in for the Ori head phones bundle and DHL shipping came to €191.68.

GBX

banie01 wrote: »

So I pulled the trigger on the Blue 4GB/64GB from Goldway this morning.
Its a birthday present for the kid to replace his Galaxy S6 but the wife has her eye on it as a demo for her next phone too
All in for the Ori head phones bundle and DHL shipping came to €191.68.

Will you post the link of the one you got Banie ? Thanks

banie01

GBX wrote: »

Will you post the link of the one you got Banie ? Thanks

Here you go.
Goldway Aliexpress

GBX

Cheers - that's the redmi 5 plus. Xiaomi really know how to confuse the masses with their models:

Redmi 5
Redmi 5a
Redmi 5 plus
Redmi note 5
Redmi note 5 pro

https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones/name.redmi%205

banie01

GBX wrote: »

Cheers - that's the redmi 5 plus. Xiaomi really know how to confuse the masses with their models:

Redmi 5
Redmi 5a
Redmi 5 plus
Redmi note 5
Redmi note 5 pro

https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones/name.redmi%205

I was under the impression that the 5 pro is the India model?
Whilst the China/Global version is the same chipset with different camera set up?

corkie

banie01 wrote: »

So I pulled the trigger on the Blue 4GB/64GB from Goldway this morning.
Its a birthday present for the kid to replace his Galaxy S6 but the wife has her eye on it as a demo for her next phone too
All in for the Ori head phones bundle and DHL shipping came to €191.68.

banie01 wrote: »

Here you go.
Goldway Aliexpress

banie01 wrote: »

I was under the impression that the 5 pro is the India model?
Whilst the China/Global version is the same chipset with different camera set up?

You have ordered a different device to what this thread is about.

Your link is for the Redmi 5 Plus [HM5Plus / vince] (without Note), which is sold as a Redmi Note 5 in India. Hence the Pro extension to this model in India.

The Redmi Note 5(/pro)[WHYRED] is much better spec device than the one you ordered.



___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


[XDA] How to flash a Generic System Image (GSI) on Project Treble supported devices


[XDA] Generic LineageOS 15.1 and Resurrection Remix ROMs now available for Project Treble compatible devices


^^^ Handy to known for WHYRED as it will be compatible.

banie01

Thanks for the heads up folks!
Cancelled and will order a Pro when I can find one.

corkie

banie01 wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up folks!
Cancelled and will order a Pro when I can find one.

You won't find one yet, as the global version with Band 20 (800) has yet to be launched.

Some resellers have pre-order listings for it, but lacking in specs and bands!

Also another reseller has a listing for Chinese versions again lacking Bands.

biebiebie

Any sign of NFC?

I believe that the Mi Mix 2 and newer 2S have it, although they're in a different price bracket.
My point being though is that Xiaomi do offer NFC on some smartphones.

It may not be a deal breaker for some, and vice versa.

corkie

Rumor: - 18th April launch date for Global RN5[WHYRED] Version.

Redmi Note 5 Glide in Indonesia April 18th , Wear Double Camera? <<< Translate with chrome.

This is known from the Facebook page Mi Indonesia on this afternoon, Tuesday (3/4/2018). Account boasted that many have asked about the presence of Redmi Note 5 in Indonesia. "There are many who asked when to come, ya he who will come on April 18, 2018! Share if you're already patient! # RedmiNote5 , "said the admin of Mi Indonesia.

https://twitter.com/donovansung/status/981144924354523137



Not that I'm suggesting anyone order from them, but gearbest, have a pre-order listing which ends on the 14th May.

biebiebie wrote: »

Any sign of NFC?

No NFC in the China or India version, so very unlikely it will be in the global version. Same goes for USB Type C!

GBX

GBX wrote: »

Still dubious about specs doing the rounds but I noticed the following "Global Version" has B20 listed

https://www.banggood.com/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-5-Global-Version-5_99-inch-4GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Snapdragon-636-Octa-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1268372.html?utm_campaign=Kimo30&utm_content=Rosalia&p=QV2409786796201409DB&cur_warehouse=HK

corkie wrote: »

Rumor: - 18th April launch date for Global RN5[WHYRED] Version.


Not that I'm suggesting anyone order from them, but gearbest, have a pre-order listing which ends on the 14th May.


No NFC in the China or India version, so very unlikely it will be in the global version. Same goes for USB Type C!

Ok, so thats Geárbest and Bángood that have presale now. Should start to see more listings coming through.

Im not overly pushed on NFC, I have managed without it on my current phone. Yeah it would be nice but cant have everything in this sort of price point for a phone.

Stevek101

Is it 100% that these have Band 20?

corkie

Stevek101 wrote: »

Is it 100% that these have Band 20?

The Global Version when released (18th of April) (Not referring to global rom) should have support for Band 20(800)!

Xiaomi have a track record of releasing multiple versions of there devices for different markets.

e.g. RN3 (Kenzo and Kate) and RN4 had multiple versions as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/wiki/general/versions

Check description (or confirm with seller) when ordering.

Note:- Some resellers have pre-order listings with incomplete specs.

Stevek101

I am still rocking a Note 3 MTK. I can't say I've really missed bands except sometimes indoor and in Germany but I would like to have 20 this time around. Been holding off till it launches. Thanks to all for the updates!

corkie

Latest News: - Kernel Sources, Official TWRP and Unofficial LineageOS 15.1


[MIUI][News] Kernel Source for Redmi Note 5 Pro/China Officially Released! >>> GitHub

TWRP for Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro

[XDA] Unofficial LineageOS 15.1 now available for Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro with nearly everything working


It is a pity the sources are Nougat based and not Oreo!

The official TWRP should work across the variations (China, India and Global).

Although in theory, roms should also be compatible across variations as well, but China Oreo rom that was flashed on India had bugs and problems with somethings not working.


If this is going to be your first Xiaomi device and you are looking to unlock the bootloader and root etc, seek permission when you order the device. It can take a few days to be granted permission. See more about it here.
Edit: - Also check that you still have unlock permission on your account and that it is still active. << (posted on MIUI forums recently?)

[howtorootmobile.com] Unlock Bootloader Redmi Note 5 and Note 5 Pro [Fastest Way]


Older News, just repeating links posted before!

[XDA] Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro can now dual boot ROMs with MultiROM
XDA Forum Thread: - MultiROM [Whyred]

[XDA] How to flash a Generic System Image (GSI) on Project Treble supported devices


[XDA] Generic LineageOS 15.1 and Resurrection Remix ROMs now available for Project Treble compatible devices


Another Youtube Review.


[TechTablets.com] Redmi Note 5 Review - Crazy Good For The Price

https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro

greenore

Anyone got any updates when global version will be available for purchase?

GBX

greenore wrote: »

Anyone got any updates when global version will be available for purchase?

It "should" be after the 18th once its officially announced ..

eoinfitzokk

What's the likely price range for the Note 5 Global version?

Would 180 to 200 be realistic for for the Global Note 5?

The Global Redmi 5 plus is coming in around the 160 euro mark. I see some AliExpress stores have the Global Note 5 at 260 pre-sale.

corkie

eoinfitzokk wrote: »

What's the likely price range for the Note 5 Global version?

Would 180 to 200 be realistic for for the Global Note 5?

The Global Redmi 5 plus is coming in around the 160 euro mark. I see some AliExpress stores have the Global Note 5 at 260 pre-sale.

At a guess and estimate based on aliexpress prices (not including shipping): -

3/32gb ~~~~ €190.00
4/64gb ~~~~ €220.00
6/64gb ~~~~ €270.00

Paying approx €50 more for an extra 2gb ram is probably not worth it for the 6gb ram.

Allot of the prices listed are just placeholder prices and inflated allot.
The initial round of sales will probably also have inflated prices. Give it a Month or two for the prices and stocks to stabilize.

corkie

Haven't got the device yet (or even ordered) but researching protection!


Spotted this on Aliexpress: -

GKK Case for Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Case 360 Full Body Protection Anti-knock Fashion Matte Hard Red for Redmi Note5 Pro Cover
€4.10 / piece



Other color combo's available.

Already had that brand for my Redmi Note 3 and has served me well. Only one small crack in corner of the case, from replacing the battery. Phone inside is in perfect condition.

gerrybbadd

That cover is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing

Fakent.ie

Do you guys think its better for me to buy the Xiaomi redmi note 4 or wait for the Xiaomi redmi note 5, I'm not familiar with phones tbh but I read that the Xiaomi redmi note 4 was a really good phone for the price, I didn't order yet though.

corkie

Fakent.ie wrote: »

Do you guys think its better for me to buy the Xiaomi redmi note 4 or wait for the Xiaomi redmi note 5, I'm not familiar with phones tbh but I read that the Xiaomi redmi note 4 was a really good phone for the price, I didn't order yet though.

The redmi note 4 was a very popular phone and good value for the money. And can still be got for a low price.

But if your not in rush to buy, wait a month or two to get Redmi Note 5[WHYRED][Global], it is a much better model and still good value but a small bit dearer.

[Crosspost]

Fakent.ie wrote: »

Could you send me the website you bought it from please and will it be okay for me to continue to use my 48 network sim and the 3g?

You where also looking at the Redmi Note 5A, stay clear it is just an entry level phone with poor specs.

Fakent.ie

corkie wrote: »

The redmi note 4 was a very popular phone and good value for the money. And can still be got for a low price.

But if your not in rush to buy, wait a month or two to get Redmi Note 5[WHYRED][Global], it is a much better model and still good value but a small bit dearer.

[Crosspost]

You where also looking at the Redmi Note 5A, stay clear it is just an entry level phone with poor specs.

being honest I have no idea about all these different brands of phones and just want one that will do the job, you know basic apps camera , msgs, calls, nothing crazy no changing OS's or anything haha. my HTCM8 right now currently turns off at 40% battery and even higher percentages if i use the flash or 3g so I sort of want to get a new phone soon for around 250euros max

corkie

Fakent.ie wrote: »

being honest I have no idea about all these different brands of phones and just want one that will do the job, you know basic apps camera , msgs, calls, nothing crazy no changing OS's or anything haha. my HTCM8 right now currently turns off at 40% battery and even higher percentages if i use the flash or 3g so I sort of want to get a new phone soon for around 250euros max

You should be happy with the Redmi Note 4 [4/64gb] <<< €149.39 + €15 shipping.

Fakent.ie

corkie wrote: »

You should be happy with the Redmi Note 4 [4/64gb] <<< €149.39 + €15 shipping.

Its safe to buy from this site? never used it before

is there a site you know that offers it in different colors?

I have a lot of sd cards I could put into it so I don't really need 64gb if that matters

corkie

Fakent.ie wrote: »

Its safe to buy from this site? never used it before

is there a site you know that offers it in different colors?

The site has been getting good feedback on the forums, also 3 Color options are available on it. Continue the discussion in this thread, if you get it.

Edit: - There is also the option to buy cheaper with less ram and storage, but your better off with more.

Fakent.ie

corkie wrote: »

The site has been getting good feedback on the forums, also 3 Color options are available on it. Continue the discussion in this thread, if you get it.

Edit: - There is also the option to buy cheaper with less ram and storage, but your better off with more.

Thanks, Ye i see those options I want the 4ram but don't exactly need the 64 of storage but I don't think they offer 4ram 32's, Its only available in gold aswell on this site.

rizzee

Global version released today?

gerrybbadd

rizzee wrote: »

Global version released today?

Fingers crossed

corkie

Launch event was on during our time 8 to 9 am approx.

http://en.miui.com/thread-2286797-1-1.html

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4qeOFEmsAHF2jQ4y0qHikw

To go on sale in Indonesia, next week on the 25th.


Similar specs to Chinese version, but no exact details of bands etc yet.

Also only 3/32gb and 4/64gb announced for that market.

Indonesian version spec is following China:
https://twitter.com/xiaomiindonesia/status/986519916315426817

Price in Indonesia (converted):

3GB + 32GB = ~181.54 USD

4GB + 64GB = ~217.87 USD

GBX

Some details on it from the Indonesia launch stream:
http://event.mi.com/id/live2018/RedmiNote5

According to the link its saying "Redmi Note 5 can be obtained online at Lazada on April 25, 2018." Other vendors will follow soon enough.

Fakent.ie

corkie wrote: »

Launch event was on during our time 8 to 9 am approx.

http://en.miui.com/thread-2286797-1-1.html

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4qeOFEmsAHF2jQ4y0qHikw

To go on sale in Indonesia, next week on the 25th.


Similar specs to Chinese version, but no exact details of bands etc yet.

Also only 3/32gb and 4/64gb announced for that market.

Indonesian version spec is following China:
https://twitter.com/xiaomiindonesia/status/986519916315426817

Price in Indonesia (converted):

3GB + 32GB = ~181.54 USD

4GB + 64GB = ~217.87 USD

Seems like a really good price compared to the note 4 being 150€ish right now?

GBX

Fakent.ie wrote: »

Seems like a really good price compared to the note 4 being 150€ish right now?

It sure is. All depends how quick you need a new phone. If you need one sooner - nothing wrong with the RN4. If not, hold off for this !

Fakent.ie

GBX wrote: »

It sure is. All depends how quick you need a new phone. If you need one sooner - nothing wrong with the RN4. If not, hold off for this !

Do you know if it works with 48 network?

GBX

Fakent.ie wrote: »

Do you know if it works with 48 network?

You will only get 3g on the 48 network. 4g is not supported. So I would think it would be ok to that point.

NATLOR

Fakent.ie wrote: »

being honest I have no idea about all these different brands of phones and just want one that will do the job, you know basic apps camera , msgs, calls, nothing crazy no changing OS's or anything haha. my HTCM8 right now currently turns off at 40% battery and even higher percentages if i use the flash or 3g so I sort of want to get a new phone soon for around 250euros max

You would be better off with an MIA1.Newer phone,slightly better camera,running stock android with regular updates
32g version for under 180 shipped from Europe

https://www.honorbuy.com/1271-xiaomi-mi-a1-official-global-version-32gb-rom-4gb-ram-black.html

64 gb not much more

https://www.honorbuy.com/1188-xiaomi-mi-a1-smartphone-black.html

corkie

@NATLOR The Redmi Note 5 [China/Global][WHYRED] has a better camera than the RN5Pro[India][WHYRED] which in itself is all round better camera than Mi A1.

Also better processor (636 vs 625), but for stock android Mi A1 is a good choice.

Fakent.ie

NATLOR wrote: »

You would be better off with an MIA1.Newer phone,slightly better camera,running stock android with regular updates
32g version for under 180 shipped from Europe

https://www.honorbuy.com/1271-xiaomi-mi-a1-official-global-version-32gb-rom-4gb-ram-black.html

64 gb not much more

https://www.honorbuy.com/1188-xiaomi-mi-a1-smartphone-black.html

How come I'd be better off with that over a note 5 or 4?

UsedToWait

corkie wrote: »

@NATLOR The Redmi Note 5 [China/Global][WHYRED] has a better camera than the RN5Pro[India][WHYRED] which in itself is all round better camera than Mi A1.

Also better processor (636 vs 625), but for stock android Mi A1 is a good choice.

Hey Corkie,
Thanks for all your posts in this forum.

Do you reckon custom ROM support for the WHYRED will be as good as for the other Xiaomis?
I was all set to buy the A1 till I saw the specs for the WHYRED, but slightly apprehensive about not getting on with MIUI..

Haven't used a custom ROM since Cyanogen - I presume Lineage is the main one to look into?

corkie

UsedToWait wrote: »

Hey Corkie,
Thanks for all your posts in this forum.

Do you reckon custom ROM support for the WHYRED will be as good as for the other Xiaomis?
I was all set to buy the A1 till I saw the specs for the WHYRED, but slightly apprehensive about not getting on with MIUI..

Haven't used a custom ROM since Cyanogen - I presume Lineage is the main one to look into?

As already post in the thread, the device is Treble compatible which should make it easy to switch to a supported GSI.

[XDA] How to flash a Generic System Image (GSI) on Project Treble supported devices


[XDA] Generic LineageOS 15.1 and Resurrection Remix ROMs now available for Project Treble compatible devices

Already a MultiRom Port for it, along with an unofficial LineageOS and Resurrection Remix.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development

Custom roms should be compatible across the different variations [Global/China/India]. Official MIUI have encounter bugs when used on different variation than what the rom is intended for.

corkie

LTE Bands 3,7 and 20 confirmed for Global version.

TDD-LTE 3/4/5/7/8/20 38/40
http://www.mi.com/id/redmi-note-5/specs/


Xiaomi Reddit wiki also updated with the specs.