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Two-day weddings

  • 06-03-2018 4:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭


    When did this become the norm in Ireland? :confused:

    I have been invited to two weddings in Ireland this year, and both are two-day affairs. One of the weddings is of a very close friend, and while I am delighted to be joining him on the day, I am balking a bit at the prospect of the second day. I think one day's eating and drinking to excess will be plenty for me, and tbh I would rather avoid the extra hassle and expense of staying for a second night.

    Is this likely to be seen as a sort of faux pas or snub? I will be coming back from abroad to attend the wedding, so I suppose that is in my favour; I would like to hear a few opinions from other people before letting them know that I will be attending the first day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    We had a two day thing, mainly because my parents wanted to host a party for their extended families the day after our wedding. We asked everyone and I'd say half the guests came, some of my friends who'd know my parents came along for a bit and it was very casual, kind of a drop in and have a drink and a bite and leave whenever type thing. We don't usually do the second day event if we're asked these days because we have young children and we don't want to give up two days for a wedding. I don't think anyone is offended if you don't go, I know my husband, my parents and myself didn't mind who came.
    ETA it was in my parents house and we didn't have a hotel wedding so there was no two nights of a stay, relatives stayed with those who live in Dublin anyway as did friends who travelled from outside Ireland. My parents put up a few for the night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    El Tarangu wrote: »
    I am balking a bit at the prospect of the second day. I would rather avoid the extra hassle and expense of staying for a second night.

    Just go to the first day.

    If you do go for the second day then don't stay over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    We had a two day thing, it was a midday BBQ to filll everyone before the went home and a small number of guests stayed the second night, only people who wanted to stayed and there was definitely no requirement to attend any part of the second day event.

    Don't go to the second day if you don't want, the invitation is optional, just tell the bride and groom, if they need numbers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Triceratops Ballet


    I've never gone to the 2nd day of a wedding, even when I was bridesmaid! I just can't be dealing with that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭missmatty


    We had the option but didn't go with it. We let some close family and friends know we would be in a local pub the evening after, and we had about twenty people. It was lovely, and the main idea was to catch up with close family from Scotland who were around for the weekend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    I never make both days.

    2 day weddings have been a thing for a long, long time.

    It's 3 day weddings now. Rehearsal dinner anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    I've only stayed for one 2 day wedding. It was my OHs friend so kept my mouth shut, but I wasn't surprised at the very low turn out for the second evening.

    It was just a low key thing in a pub with some finger food, so it was grand actually. It was nice that we didn't have to check out and drive home early after the night before and got to do our own thing in the afternoon. But obviously the big downside was doubling the cost of accommodation.

    Personally I think 2 day weddings are taking the p1ss though! You get one day, ONE :P
    Addle wrote: »
    Rehearsal dinner anyone?

    Mother of God, please don't tell me this is becoming the norm...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    I've had 1 invite to a rehearsal last year and one coming up this autumn.
    Not best buddies or related to either set of hosts.

    The autumn wedding has also already a plan for a post honeymoon party where she'll show everyone the wedding video, so she can delay the post wedding slump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Have had plenty of invites for second day events but never go. Never an issue always a much smaller turnout for second day. I enjoy weddings + the day but that's it. People have other things on in their life + I think it's a bit much asking people to stay another day/night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Addle wrote: »
    Rehearsal dinner anyone?

    Mother of God, please don't tell me this is becoming the norm...

    For the bridal party and parents of the bride/groom I don't see a problem?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Cos it's more fun. Obviously. If you don't want to go for the second day, then don't. Nobody minds if someone isn't there on the second day after the wedding, most people will probably not even notice you are not there, I'll think they'll be ok with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    GingerLily wrote: »
    For the bridal party and parents of the bride/groom I don't see a problem?

    But why is it necessary at all? If the bridal party is staying at the venue the night before anyway and they all end up heading down to dinner together, grand. But the whole concept of a prearranged "rehearsal dinner" sounds very American, unnecessary and additional pressure on the bridal party.

    I'm genuinely perplexed. But I've never been to a rehearsal dinner. Perhaps someone can share their experience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Addle wrote: »
    I never make both days.

    2 day weddings have been a thing for a long, long time.

    It's 3 day weddings now. Rehearsal dinner anyone?

    So if you ask the wedding party to come to the church/registry office/venue for a rehearsal, then you have to bring them to a restaurant after?
    Who pays? If your in the party and you don’t go is that a problem?
    Or what is it?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    I'm not 100% on what it is.
    Reason I didn't go is that there were too many unknowns. We didn't have a role in the ceremony do weren't going to the church.
    We did stay on the hotel the night before and went out for dinner, but we didn't meet the wedding party as we didn't know what the story was about paying for the meal, or who'd exactly be there.

    I rarely spend 3 days in a row with my husband, not about to choose to spend 3 expensive days with strangers by choice!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    If I was staying in the hotel the night before and I was invited to the rehearsal dinner as a result I would just assume the bride and groom are being polite and don't want their guests to feel left out. There's obviously no obligation!

    A lot of people seem to find invitations offensive, which seems a little odd, just don't go if you can't/don't want to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    We are married 14 years and 2 day weddings were a thing back then with the 2nd day being a BBQ or similar.

    We got married abroad and had a Rehearsal Dinner and a Day-After Dinner too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    woodchuck wrote: »
    But why is it necessary at all? If the bridal party is staying at the venue the night before anyway and they all end up heading down to dinner together, grand. But the whole concept of a prearranged "rehearsal dinner" sounds very American, unnecessary and additional pressure on the bridal party.

    I'm genuinely perplexed. But I've never been to a rehearsal dinner. Perhaps someone can share their experience?
    The rehearsal dinner is an American thing. I've been to one (I was the best man). It only involves the couple, their parents, the bridal party and (occasionally) the celebrant. There is an actual rehearsal of the wedding ceremony, if possible at the venue where the ceremony will be held, followed by a dinner. Bridal party partners are invited to the dinner afterwards, but often do not come. The celebrant is invited to the dinner afterwards, but invariably declines, unless he is also a close family friend. The dinner is a low-key affair, and is usually not held in the same venue that will host the wedding reception. It's really just to thank the bridal party for having given up their evening to help ensure that things will go smoothly on the day.

    As for the two-day wedding thing, we did that, because my wife is Australian, and her friends/family were coming a long way for the wedding, to a place which they might otherwise have no inclination to visit; we felt we needed to offer them a bit more than one day's entertainment. So on day 2 we organised a treasure hunt around the town, ending up with afternoon tea at a city centre hotel (which was not the venue for the wedding/reception). We made it clear that people could come or not as they wished; nearly all of the foreign visitors came, plus a fair spread of Irish friends. Irish family members, not so much. It went well, and seemed to be appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭loalae


    Ah we're having a 2 day wedding but that's because my partner is Sikh and his mother wishes us to have a Sikh ceremony. I don't want that to be my official wedding so we're having the Sikh ceremony and some food on the Friday and the civil ceremony and proper party on the Saturday.

    I've told friends and family that they are invited to both but I expect that many people will just come for the Saturday especially as my friends and family are in Ireland and the wedding is in London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    GingerLily wrote: »
    If I was staying in the hotel the night before and I was invited to the rehearsal dinner as a result I would just assume the bride and groom are being polite and don't want their guests to feel left out. There's obviously no obligation!

    A lot of people seem to find invitations offensive, which seems a little odd, just don't go if you can't/don't want to.
    Our invitation wasn't because of our accommodation.

    I'm never offended by an invitation! That would be taking the whole thing far too seriously. I often turn down invites to all sorts of occasions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Addle wrote: »
    The autumn wedding has also already a plan for a post honeymoon party where she'll show everyone the wedding video, so she can delay the post wedding slump.
    Oh, dear God. Has nobody ever told her that you must never, ever make people watch your wedding video?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    The rehearsal dinner is an American thing. I've been to one (I was the best man). It only involves the couple, their parents, the bridal party and (occasionally) the celebrant. There is an actual rehearsal of the wedding ceremony, if possible at the venue where the ceremony will be held, followed by a dinner. Bridal party partners are invited to the dinner afterwards, but often do not come. The celebrant is invited to the dinner afterwards, but invariably declines, unless he is also a close family friend. The dinner is a low-key affair, and is usually not held in the same venue that will host the wedding reception. It's really just to thank the bridal party for having given up their evening to help ensure that things will go smoothly on the day.

    As for the two-day wedding thing, we did that, because my wife is Australian, and her friends/family were coming a long way for the wedding, to a place which they might otherwise have no inclination to visit; we felt we needed to offer them a bit more than one day's entertainment. So on day 2 we organised a treasure hunt around the town, ending up with afternoon tea at a city centre hotel (which was not the venue for the wedding/reception). We made it clear that people could come or not as they wished; nearly all of the foreign visitors came, plus a fair spread of Irish friends. Irish family members, not so much. It went well, and seemed to be appreciated.

    Thanks for info! Who normally pays for the rehearsal dinner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    My Parents paid for ours. My Husband's Parents paid for the Day-After Dinner. This was worked out between the two Dads as we were going to pay ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,516 ✭✭✭Wheety


    As plenty of people have said, I've been at a few weddings where the invite mentioned that the Bride and Groom are staying the second night and having a BBQ, if anyone wants to stay the 2nd night etc.

    Haven't done it yet. I'm worn out after the main night so have just gone down to the group at checking out time, after throwing bags into the car. Maybe stay for an hour or 2 drinking blackcurrant and having food before the trip home. I don't have any kids but they seem to love playing with their friends/cousins for a while longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    I was about to say both my brothers had 2 day things, but technically so did we.

    Brother 1: Full on 2 day thing- technically actually 3; civil ceremony (legally binding) on the Friday, just family and we had dinner in the hotel afterward. Then full wedding (had a religious blessing type ceremony in the hotel, then usual dinner & reception) on the Saturday. Sunday was a BBQ at the hotel then down to the pub. It was a lot, I have to admit.

    Brother 2: Civil wedding as normal on the Saturday, then both families went back to their house to have a lunch of shepherds pie and cake that my sister-in-law and her neighbour had prepared on the Friday. It was lovely actually, we all ate outside in lovely August sun in the Cotswolds.

    Us: Wedding on Saturday (late start, ceremony at 4.30) then we let it be known to family & some friends that we were going to brunch if people wanted to join. We had about 16 I think. Was grand, but it was really just family and closest friends. We weren't going on honeymoon until the Monday so fancied something organised on the Sunday so it wasn't a bit of a let down.

    I don't get invited to many weddings tbh, so that's most of my wedding experience. I think so long as it's not a big massive night expected and you're not expected to stay extra nights and pay for hotels etc it's grand. Obviously I went to everything at my brothers wedding but I wouldn't be doing all that for anyone else. The BBQ was part of their package and it was good craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    We didn’t plan to have a rehearsal of our wedding ceremony because it didn’t seem necessary but the priest that was to marry us died and the substitute priest was visiting from the uk and he asked us to come to the church because apparently they do things differently over there and he was very nervous!
    I told him to go ahead and do whatever was comfortable for him and we just followed his lead on the big day and it was grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    We are having dinner the second night for people who traveled and who have flights on Monday. We are also covering lunch/dinner for those flying in the day before. Otherwise I would prefer one night affair, I won't be even around on Friday but if you drag people across Europe I think you should at least organize some food.

    I've been to a few second days and I find them a bit exhausting. I don't mind stayng a day longer in a hotel and have a lazy day but another evening of drinking is a bit much for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Thanks for info! Who normally pays for the rehearsal dinner?
    Traditionally, the groom's parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Traditionally, the groom's parents.

    Good Lord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    splinter65 wrote: »
    So if you ask the wedding party to come to the church/registry office/venue for a rehearsal, then you have to bring them to a restaurant after?
    Who pays? If your in the party and you don’t go is that a problem?
    Or what is it?!
    I'd rather a rehearsal dinner than a 2nd day of the wedding. Usually the rehearsal dinner is only immediate family of the bride and groom, and the wedding party and their partners. It's hosted by the groom's family (usually) and it's meant to be a way for the families and the wedding party to get to know each other. It's a pre-wedding thing that is not all about the bride and groom.

    The 2 day wedding on the other hand reeks of a couple who can't bear to relinquish the limelight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Good Lord.
    Why "good Lord"? The bride's parents traditionally pay for the whole wedding reception, which is a vastly bigger affair.

    The rehearsal dinner, as noted, is a fairly small and low-key business. It's not the done thing to go over the top and go to a massively fancy place; you go to a place where people will feel comfortable, and which will be suitable for chatting and socialising. So, a nice restaurant. Not a Michelin-starred place, and not McDonald's. As Electric Sheep says, it's often a chance for the two families to spend a bit of time together before the hurley-burley of the wedding.

    It's usually a few days before the wedding, which often makes it smaller still, since not all of the bridal party will be in town. The bigger your role on the day, the more effort you are expected to make to attend the rehearsal and the dinner but it's understood that, if you can't go, you can't go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    Peregrinus wrote:
    The rehearsal dinner, as noted, is a fairly small and low-key business. It's not the done thing to go over the top and go to a massively fancy place; you go to a place where people will feel comfortable, and which will be suitable for chatting and socialising. So, a nice restaurant. Not a Michelin-starred place, and not McDonald's. As Electric Sheep says, it's often a chance for the two families to spend a bit of time together before the hurley-burley of the wedding.

    I feel it is just another gimmick concocted by businesses as another way for people to part with their cash.

    If they brought out "wedding magic beans", that guarantee future happiness, some people would fall for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I feel it is just another gimmick concocted by businesses as another way for people to part with their cash.

    If they brought out "wedding magic beans", that guarantee future happiness, some people would fall for it.
    Well, everything with "wedding" in front of it tends to cost between 3 and 10 times as much as if it didn't have "wedding" in front of it.

    But, at least in the US, rehearsal dinners are not marketed as such, or charged as such. You just make a booking in a restaurant for X number of people. The restaurant does not know, and does not need to know, the nature of the occasion, and the charges are the same charges that would be incurred any time a group of people go out to dinner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 989 ✭✭✭Birdsong


    The 2 day wedding on the other hand reeks of a couple who can't bear to relinquish the limelight.

    This exactly, I don't do the 2nd day, not even my brothers! They're often Sunday which means taking Monday off work, which I don't think is a good use ood annual leave.

    Meeting up with everyone for breakfast the next day is enough by me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Well, everything with "wedding" in front of it tends to cost between 3 and 10 times as much as if it didn't have "wedding" in front of it.
    I don't think this is the case. Our band, photographer, venue and other suppliers all had a rate. The venue had a rate for events, based on the type of menu you wanted. If we had had a funeral with the same menu it would have cost the same as our wedding meal did per head. If I wanted to hire our photographer for the 12 hours she spent photographing our wedding and delivering prints and an album it was the same for a wedding as any other event. Same rate for the band playing a corporate event as our wedding.
    I think the difference is that with a wedding you're hiring a lot of suppliers all at once. At most other events you'll just hire a band, or a photographer, or pay for a meal and drinks. When we looked at each individual cost, none were extortionate and all were worth the money.
    If anyone doesn't want to go to an event, just don't go. People won't be offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    The 2 day wedding on the other hand reeks of a couple who can't bear to relinquish the limelight.

    Utter nonsense.

    A lot of times there's a lot of stress on the couple getting married on the day, between worrying everything is going to go OK, and between preparation in the morning, photographs, being a bit more isolated during dinner, many don't get to spend much time relaxing with all their friends at least until well into the evening.

    A second day gives the couple a chance to just chill informally with their friends without any of the pressure of hosting the day, and a bit more time to catch up with people.

    If you don't want to go, then don't. If you think they're pretentious tossers who are only interesting in hogging the limelight, maybe skip the wedding in the first place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭missmatty


    It's true, you don't really get a chance to chill with people until quite late in the evening on the day. We did the rounds of a few tables between courses and otherwise would have missed speaking to some people who went to bed early. Also if you have a few people coming later in the evening you spend time talking to them and it takes you longer to get to others, so it's understandable why some people want a second day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    When I've talked to guests after my wedding everyone's highlight was either the band or the BBQ the next day, the weather was glorious and everyone just sat, ate and relaxed. I loved my second day because I had barely any attention, I could just talk to guests and not worry about what I should be doing.

    Most people were gone by 4 and didn't take the day off work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    GingerLily wrote: »
    When I've talked to guests after my wedding everyone's highlight was either the band or the BBQ the next day, the weather was glorious and everyone just sat, ate and relaxed. I loved my second day because I had barely any attention, I could just talk to guests and not worry about what I should be doing.

    Most people were gone by 4 and didn't take the day off work.
    The only people who lasted until the singsong stage in my parents on the second day were the rellies and a few very close friends we loved catching up with. It was a Saturday, we had a Friday wedding. Great night!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,086 ✭✭✭duffman13


    lazygal wrote: »
    I don't think this is the case. Our band, photographer, venue and other suppliers all had a rate. The venue had a rate for events, based on the type of menu you wanted. If we had had a funeral with the same menu it would have cost the same as our wedding meal did per head. If I wanted to hire our photographer for the 12 hours she spent photographing our wedding and delivering prints and an album it was the same for a wedding as any other event. Same rate for the band playing a corporate event as our wedding.
    I think the difference is that with a wedding you're hiring a lot of suppliers all at once. At most other events you'll just hire a band, or a photographer, or pay for a meal and drinks. When we looked at each individual cost, none were extortionate and all were worth the money.
    If anyone doesn't want to go to an event, just don't go. People won't be offended.

    I've got to say this a little naive around rates. I've organised functions for professional and personal occasions and the difference in cost particularly for bands and venues can be staggering between what would be offered for a work conference or the like.

    I recently organised a Friday conference and Gala dinner in a well known hotel which is very popular for weddings, 5 course meal, wine included for the evening affair and a good lunch for the attendants on the day. I priced a basic wedding package in the same hotel and it was for a similar number of people, the price was almost triple what I'd paid for a conference.

    We'd booked the vast majority of rooms in the hotel on the night and it was 40 euro per room cheaper than the wedding rate. Similarly we got a band who do weddings for a two hour show which was 1250, same band actually charge close to 3k for a wedding. It shows the level if haggling that can be done in my eyes.

    By the way all the above was for a Friday at the end of August and booked about 9 months in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Why "good Lord"? The bride's parents traditionally pay for the whole wedding reception, which is a vastly bigger affair.

    The rehearsal dinner, as noted, is a fairly small and low-key business. It's not the done thing to go over the top and go to a massively fancy place; you go to a place where people will feel comfortable, and which will be suitable for chatting and socialising. So, a nice restaurant. Not a Michelin-starred place, and not McDonald's. As Electric Sheep says, it's often a chance for the two families to spend a bit of time together before the hurley-burley of the wedding.

    It's usually a few days before the wedding, which often makes it smaller still, since not all of the bridal party will be in town. The bigger your role on the day, the more effort you are expected to make to attend the rehearsal and the dinner but it's understood that, if you can't go, you can't go.

    Ah sorry peregrinus I’m just astonished at all these extra dinners and parties and stuff that have been tacked on, in my opinion, to what used to be a fairly enjoyable family occasion.
    Its being sold as “traditional” when it’s not, well not here in Ireland.
    It’s being imported from the US if we were being honest, where it probably is traditional.
    I see another US imported “tradition” is having professional engagement photos taken.
    While I know all these things are great news for service providers, I do feel a bit sorry for couples who are financially strapped trying to keep up with all these new “traditions”.
    It’s seems that keeping it simple now is getting more and more difficult.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    While I know all these things are great news for service providers, I do feel a bit sorry for couples who are financially strapped trying to keep up with all these new “traditions”.
    It’s seems that keeping it simple now is getting more and more difficult.

    True that, it's especially difficult because your immediate family sees more and more on how it all could be and the expectations are high. The pressure is definitely on and it's not easy keeping it cool.

    On topic: We didn't go to the second day we were invited to because we had a 3 hour car trip home with a baby and we knew we wouldn't/couldn't leave until 6pm.
    Not planning a second day ourselves really, we don't even wanna leave the hotel room tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Well, everything with "wedding" in front of it tends to cost between 3 and 10 times as much as if it didn't have "wedding" in front of it.

    But, at least in the US, rehearsal dinners are not marketed as such, or charged as such. You just make a booking in a restaurant for X number of people. The restaurant does not know, and does not need to know, the nature of the occasion, and the charges are the same charges that would be incurred any time a group of people go out to dinner.

    Pardon my ignorance, but I'm genuinely curious. If someone in Ireland wanted a very low key wedding, say a registry office followed by a dinner with small numbers, can you just book a table at a restaurant as normal? Or would you have to "declare" that it's for a wedding? I would assuming saying it's a wedding when you're booking would up the price like you said. But what happens if you just book a table for a dozen people and show up in a wedding dress? Would the restaurant consider it poor form and/or up the price at that point? (this is assuming the only wedding thing is the clothes, no speeches etc).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Pardon my ignorance, but I'm genuinely curious. If someone in Ireland wanted a very low key wedding, say a registry office followed by a dinner with small numbers, can you just book a table at a restaurant as normal? Or would you have to "declare" that it's for a wedding? I would assuming saying it's a wedding when you're booking would up the price like you said. But what happens if you just book a table for a dozen people and show up in a wedding dress? Would the restaurant consider it poor form and/or up the price at that point? (this is assuming the only wedding thing is the clothes, no speeches etc).

    We're doing one like that and there are a few places I'm eyeing with. In my initial enquiry I always say it's a wedding party for X people looking for a meal.
    All places are quite accommodating and give me options of just a big reserved area in the open restaurant or if they have a private dining option, they explain them to you too. Food prices are the same either way, because a lot of places do set meals from a certain group size on (varies from 30 - open end per head).

    When you book a proper wedding, in the package there is a lot more included, you get private use of the space, the catering for a big party is entirely different than for 15 or 20 people, you have canapes, drinks, the hire of audio equipment and table, extra waiting and kitchen staff is required, there is usually an event manager spending a lot of time planning your event and all that needs to be paid.
    The problem is, people don't see what's going on behind the scenes and how much work it is involved that your day runs smoothly. It's the same with flowers, singers, bands, pick whatever you want. You pay a premium that your day runs smoothly, because there are so many people involved that you're probably never going to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Pardon my ignorance, but I'm genuinely curious. If someone in Ireland wanted a very low key wedding, say a registry office followed by a dinner with small numbers, can you just book a table at a restaurant as normal? Or would you have to "declare" that it's for a wedding? I would assuming saying it's a wedding when you're booking would up the price like you said. But what happens if you just book a table for a dozen people and show up in a wedding dress? Would the restaurant consider it poor form and/or up the price at that point? (this is assuming the only wedding thing is the clothes, no speeches etc).
    No, you can certainly do what you say. But if you approach venues, service providers, etc, explicitly in connection with a wedding, then they'll immediately steer you towards products, services, packages, etc, that are geared towards weddings, and priced in a fairly princely fashion.

    For example, if you hire a nice car and driver for a day, or an afternoon, to take a visiting businessman around town, you'll find it costs strikingly less than hiring a similar car, but garnished with white ribbons, to ferry a bride and groom between home, wedding venue, reception venue, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Pardon my ignorance, but I'm genuinely curious. If someone in Ireland wanted a very low key wedding, say a registry office followed by a dinner with small numbers, can you just book a table at a restaurant as normal? Or would you have to "declare" that it's for a wedding? I would assuming saying it's a wedding when you're booking would up the price like you said. But what happens if you just book a table for a dozen people and show up in a wedding dress? Would the restaurant consider it poor form and/or up the price at that point? (this is assuming the only wedding thing is the clothes, no speeches etc).

    It depends a bit.

    A lot of venues will have a policy of one wedding a day, and will sign a contract to that effect with the weddings they book.

    If it's a venue that does that and you show up in a wedding dress on a day they've booked another wedding you're likely to find yourself in a pickle. That applies more to hotels and similar than normal restaurants though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    No, you can certainly do what you say. But if you approach venues, service providers, etc, explicitly in connection with a wedding, then they'll immediately steer you towards products, services, packages, etc, that are geared towards weddings, and priced in a fairly princely fashion.

    Depends on the size of the party. If you're having a tiny wedding party of 20 people, there is no venue that does packages for such small occasions and instead offer you the option of private dining. I'm currently sitting with a few PDFs of different locations open and I'm surprised how reasonable they all are really. If it's a tiny wedding party, birthday or just a nice evening of some friends reconnecting doesn't make a difference to them in that case. You're also charged the same price as any other group event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Pardon my ignorance, but I'm genuinely curious. If someone in Ireland wanted a very low key wedding, say a registry office followed by a dinner with small numbers, can you just book a table at a restaurant as normal? Or would you have to "declare" that it's for a wedding? I would assuming saying it's a wedding when you're booking would up the price like you said. But what happens if you just book a table for a dozen people and show up in a wedding dress? Would the restaurant consider it poor form and/or up the price at that point? (this is assuming the only wedding thing is the clothes, no speeches etc).

    Showing up in a wedding dress is no bother but you would not have any of the usual privacy with your wedding party that you’d normally enjoy on your wedding day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭aceygray


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Pardon my ignorance, but I'm genuinely curious. If someone in Ireland wanted a very low key wedding, say a registry office followed by a dinner with small numbers, can you just book a table at a restaurant as normal? Or would you have to "declare" that it's for a wedding? I would assuming saying it's a wedding when you're booking would up the price like you said. But what happens if you just book a table for a dozen people and show up in a wedding dress? Would the restaurant consider it poor form and/or up the price at that point? (this is assuming the only wedding thing is the clothes, no speeches etc).

    This is what we did. I can't remember if we told them or not when booking that it was a wedding, but our guests just ordered off the normal menu, with normal prices. We had a cake delivered, which they brought out after the dinner for us to cut, no extra charge. But it was a very small wedding, jut 11 guests, and we weren't wearing "traditional" wedding clothes.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Love the second days of weddings always a great session and an excuse to go for the cure (straight after breakfast in the hotel on a few occasions :D). I actually dislike when people don't have a second day and will definitely be having a big second day for my own wedding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,516 ✭✭✭Wheety


    LirW wrote: »
    Depends on the size of the party. If you're having a tiny wedding party of 20 people, there is no venue that does packages for such small occasions and instead offer you the option of private dining. I'm currently sitting with a few PDFs of different locations open and I'm surprised how reasonable they all are really. If it's a tiny wedding party, birthday or just a nice evening of some friends reconnecting doesn't make a difference to them in that case. You're also charged the same price as any other group event.

    We had 20 and told the restaurant it was for a wedding. They were amazing with us and told us we could put together a set menu with 2 or 3 options for each course and they printed the menus with our names on the top of it. Think it was 40 per person. They kept the wine flowing too and we had an area on a balcony away from everyone else.


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