Most dated new car for sale currently

Dia1988

As title suggests what car do you think is the most out dated currently for sale? It mainly relates to aesthetics and not the innovation packed into cars.

It has to be the Fiat Punto running from 2005 !!

But what about in the other car sectors? Mini, Economy, Small/medium hatchback, family saloon, luxury , crossover and SUV .


For me it’s as follows:

Mini: Fiat 500
Economy: Fiat Punto
Small/Medium Hatchback: Ford Focus
Family Saloon: Hyundai i40 / Toyota Avensis
Luxury: Audi A4/A6
Crossover: Dacia Duster or Hyundai Tucson (mainly because they’re everywhere)
SUV: BMW X5

Miscreant

Suzuki Jimmy..... I think they have been on sale in the same guise since about 1998, or at least were until very recently. There is a new one coming out soon though

pablo128

I think the Yaris has pretty much the same bodyshell from 05 (Japan) or 06 (Europe). Aren't they still using the same 1.0 3 cylinder unit?

Supergurrier

Saw a 171 Volvo S60 recently with Halogens

Well due a change at this stage

Ursummupet

Miscreant wrote: »

Suzuki Jimmy..... I think they have been on sale in the same guise since about 1998.

The black on red isn't the worst, even though having to recognise the year by the paint job is pretty damning.

For me it's the Corolla, that thing is around since definitely 11 as the neighbour has one, maybe 10.

Dia1988

Supergurrier wrote: »

Saw a 171 Volvo S60 recently with Halogens

Well due a change at this stage

Yes, forgot about the S60, out since 2010 I think!

THall04

Citroen Berlingo multispace , not much change in nearly 20 years

RobTheLad

Mitsubishi Pajero

Dia1988

RobTheLad wrote: »

Mitsubishi Pajero

Yes definitely, out since 2006 I think with little changes.

While we’re on Mitsubishi, the Lancer is another contender for this thread.

Here’s a 2018 one for sale with a dreary 90’s interior

https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/mitsubishi/lancer/2441294153392837564

kerten

Can we add "New" Opel Corsa which had a new bumper, headlights and dashboard over previous model which is based on chassis shared with Punto

beauf

The Dacia's looks like an early 80's. That said when all these fancy electronics in other cars fail, dacia's may have the last laugh.

Guy:Incognito

beauf wrote: »

The Dacia's looks like an early 80's. That said when all these fancy electronics in other cars fail, dacia's may have the last laugh.

Have you seen 80s cars? Most of them were drawn completely with a ruler . Straight lines and angles everywhere.

beauf

Dia1988 wrote: »

As title suggests what car do you think is the most out dated currently for sale? It mainly relates to aesthetics and not the innovation packed into cars.

It has to be the Fiat Punto running from 2005 !!

But what about in the other car sectors? Mini, Economy, Small/medium hatchback, family saloon, luxury , crossover and SUV .


For me it’s as follows:

Mini: Fiat 500
Economy: Fiat Punto
Small/Medium Hatchback: Ford Focus
Family Saloon: Hyundai i40 / Toyota Avensis
Luxury: Audi A4/A6
Crossover: Dacia Duster or Hyundai Tucson (mainly because they’re everywhere)
SUV: BMW X5

I don't get why the 500 is in your list. Its a retro reboot.

beauf

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Have you seen 80s cars? Most of them were drawn completely with a ruler . Straight lines and angles everywhere.

Curves do not save the Dacia from being dated.

Dia1988

beauf wrote: »

I don't get why the 500 is in your list. Its a retro reboot.

Personally if I were in the market for a Fiat 500 I’d save 1,000s by buying a 2008 model that is identical to a 2018 model and if it was a UK car I’d put a private plate on it.

I agree with you that it’s a retro car but on my list because the 500 has been out since 2008 with little or no changes to entice current or new customers to the 500. Also the 500 is a Ford Ka underneath.

What car would you replace it with on my list then? (In the super mini sector)

JenovaProject

I think its aged really well but the Mitsubishi Lancer from 08 is fairly old and forgive me if im wrong but I havent copped a new model yet.

JenovaProject

Suppose me thinking its aged well goes against the dated idea of the thread:pac:

Guy:Incognito

Dia1988 wrote: »

Also the 500 is a Ford Ka underneath.

The Ka Is is a Fiat 500 underneath you mean.

beauf

Its kinda of a classic (aesthetically) as is. I'm not sure why you'd mess with it. That what attracts people do it and its cheap.

Unless they did something like Honda EV Concept or VW Buzz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi2wrqAlK5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQut6ks3nSY

You said aesthetics so whats underneath is irrelevant. I suspect you just don't like it.

beauf

Dia1988 wrote: »

Personally if I were in the market for a Fiat 500 I’d save 1,000s by buying a 2008 model that is identical to a 2018 model and if it was a UK car I’d put a private plate on it....

The people buy them buy them new on PCP because its cheap. I dunno where you are going with the whole year/plate thing.

beauf

How about this...
Bollinger B1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dav55oUJ-w

or

Mercedes-AMG G65
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3KjIQCKmM4

Dia1988

beauf wrote: »

Its kinda of a classic (aesthetically) as is. I'm not sure why you'd mess with it. That what attracts people do it and its cheap.

Unless they did something like Honda EV Concept or VW Buzz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi2wrqAlK5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQut6ks3nSY

You said aesthetics so whats underneath is irrelevant. I suspect you just don't like it.

I actually really like the 500 (guilty pleasure)

The 500 was the first car I thought of in the super mini car sector that I thought of that has remained almost unchanged since 2008.

You’re welcome to give suggestions on cars you think are dated in the super mini sector!

beauf

I think the mini is now butt ugly. Nothing dates a car like ugly.

beauf

The other thing is the Utility SUV kinda like boxes 80's styling. Especially in the States retro SUV is in big demand.

Widdensushi

Land rover defender, it looks like something from the 1940s.

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Larbre34

Toyota Previa.

JohnBoy26

pablo128 wrote: »

I think the Yaris has pretty much the same bodyshell from 05 (Japan) or 06 (Europe). Aren't they still using the same 1.0 3 cylinder unit?

It's not the same bodyshell at all. The current yaris was launched in 2011 and recieved a facelift a couple of years back.

Duke O Smiley

Current Pajero is out since 2006. Still a nice looking thing to look at but old inside IMO

JohnBoy26

Ursummupet wrote: »

The black on red isn't the worst, even though having to recognise the year by the paint job is pretty damning.

For me it's the Corolla, that thing is around since definitely 11 as the neighbour has one, maybe 10.

The current corolla was launched in 2013. The one your neighbour has is the older model which was launched in 2007

JohnBoy26

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Current Pajero is out since 2006. Still a nice looking thing to look at but old inside IMO

It's really out since 1999. I think it has the same interior for the last 11 years.

Borderfox

Anything from SsangYong

Peatys

Dia1988 wrote: »

Yes definitely, out since 2006 I think with little changes.

While we’re on Mitsubishi, the Lancer is another contender for this thread.

Here’s a 2018 one for sale with a dreary 90’s interior

https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/mitsubishi/lancer/2441294153392837564

A 171 passed me the other day. Couldn't believe it's still rocking the 05 look. I just presumed it had sat on the forecourt for years unregistered.

JohnBoy26

THall04 wrote: »

Citroen Berlingo multispace , not much change in nearly 20 years

Duke O Smiley

To be fair the Mk1 Berlingo got a very good run

ewj1978

yep, those photo's confirm it. It's still an ugly van.

dr.fuzzenstein

The UAZ 452.

http://www.madeinrussia.cz/en/uaz-452-passenger-197/

You can have a brand spanking new piece of 1960's Russian tech today if you want.
And I want one!
2.7 liter petrol engine with 100 horsepower.

JohnBoy26

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

To be fair the Mk1 Berlingo got a very good run

It did but its not currently on sale.

JohnBoy26

ewj1978 wrote: »

yep, those photo's confirm it. It's still an ugly van.

But a completely different ugly van.

_Brian

People are confusing a popular successful selling car with a dated car.

The berlingo innthe last 20 years had a facelift and then a complete redesign, yes there are loads about but that’s because it’s a very successful design.

In some ways it’s dacia’s trademark to take older well proven Renault technology, roll it up in a fresh design and sell it cheaply. I’d say it is a successful process, and the MK2 Duster seems to have addressed a lot of the design issues.

ewj1978

There's a new duster? :O

Toyotafanboi

_Brian wrote: »

People are confusing a popular successful selling car with a dated car.

This thread went particularly quickly from dated cars to cars that people just don't like that they want to have a cheap shot at. Usually it takes at least 5 pages for that to happen.

My most dated new car on sale? The Mitsubishi Space Star.

A neighbour got a 181 one and I had a look around it. It would have been a very good vehicle if it was launched around 1999. It's extremely out dated. Probably very reliable but a bit of a shed.

http://mitsubishi-motors.ie/car/space-star/



Let Doug DeMuro tell you more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aCsNs3eYTE

tedpan

Toyotafanboi wrote:

A neighbour got a 181 one and I had a look around it. It would have been a very good vehicle if it was launched around 1999. It's extremely out dated. Probably very reliable but a bit of a shed.

Totally agree, for people who want a 181 badge for cheap!

Toyotafanboi wrote:

Let Doug DeMuro tell you more.

Can't stand that idiot Doug. He has no clue, won't be watching that.

tea and coffee

Normally when there are new plates I notice a car as it looks new. E.g. 181 plates. For some reason, I found I didn't notice that the Qasquai s I was seeing were new for ages. They looked "older".
I've seen that Spacestar and it's weird. The new Yaris and new Micra also look like a 90s version of "futuristic" imo.

colm_mcm

Dia1988 wrote: »

Yes definitely, out since 2006 I think with little changes.

While we’re on Mitsubishi, the Lancer is another contender for this thread.

Here’s a 2018 one for sale with a dreary 90’s interior

https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/mitsubishi/lancer/2441294153392837564

Same shape Pajero is out since 2000!

dr.fuzzenstein

Pfft, amateurs:
UAZ 452. Still being made:

dr.fuzzenstein

Also, Mercedes G-Wagen. Barely changed since 1979:

beauf

_Brian wrote: »

People are confusing a popular successful selling car with a dated car. ..

The OP said it was solely about the aesthetics - the looks. Nothing about being successful. I assume he meant on sale in Ireland also. Maybe not.

JohnBoy26

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Also, Mercedes G-Wagen. Barely changed since 1979:

Still looks good though I think

gmacww

I do think there is confusion here. Some cars are still built a certain way as they are classic designs. That Mercedes G-Wagon won't change as that's a classic design and in ridiculous demand especially in the OPEC countries. Same for the Land Rover Defender. Someone also mentioned the Fiat 500, really? That's a purposely 60's retro design. It's not that it's dated, it supposed to look like it's from the 60's with modern engineering.

Now for genuine, non classic, non intentionally retro designs I'd go for the Pajero. Pulled up behind a 171 last week and couldn't believe it was a new car (relatively). Looked right out of 2000.

Ubbquittious

Caterham



Lotus 7

Not a huge change in 60 years. Just the way it should be.