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24 Hours in Police Custody - Channel 4

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    spurious wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling about this one. That poor bloke. I'm glad the detective sees through your one's act.

    I'm afraid to Google your one's name to see what happened.

    Yeah I said to the missus after the opening scene I'm expecting her to kill him

    Don't want to Google it until after


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Gutted. An all too familiar story of a victim protecting the abuser through a mixture of blind love and fear. RIP


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    Absolute ridiculous sentence....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭jellybear


    I honestly don't know what to say after watching that. That poor man.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    dobman88 wrote:
    Gutted. An all too familiar story of a victim protecting the abuser through a mixture of blind love and fear. RIP

    And yet he had been brave enough to get some info on refuges. I found that terribly sad. He was trying to get himself out of it. That poor man. It must be so frustrating for the police. OK they may not have been able to prove her blows caused him to die but she was responsible for his death. Sentence a disgrace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    spurious wrote: »
    And yet he had been brave enough to get some info on refuges. I found that terribly sad. He was trying to get himself out of it. That poor man. It must be so frustrating for the police. OK they may not have been able to prove her blows caused him to die but she was responsible for his death. Sentence a disgrace.

    Yeah the piece where they pulled the information leaflet out of his belongings. A tough watch knowing he was on his way out of harm. Yer wan not giving a ****e. A nasty piece of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,952 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    Desperately sad , the poor man , RIP Paul .
    Vile piece of work she is .
    No reaction, no remorse when being questioned .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,670 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Vile evil woman, will meet her match one day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,226 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    I cant help thinking that if the genders were reversed in this case it would have been far longer than 16 months.

    It really was a difficult watch.

    "Where do you want to go?

    Heaven.

    Devon?

    I said heaven."

    Awful story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    anyone know why the previous seasons of this aren't on 4OD?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,305 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Well that was heartbreaking.
    This season especially has been fantastic I have to say.

    That sentence.....FFS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Turn that around and put the man as the woman, he would never see the light of day for at least I'd say 20 years....

    What a piece of filth she was, sadist, she knew damn well how to play it, poor her, only a woman she couldn't do anything wrong or hurt a fly....

    She was even smart enough to wash everything she wore......

    That sentence was absolutely disgusting and an insult to the dead man... Judges should be ashamed of themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,952 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    gmisk wrote: »
    Well that was heartbreaking.
    This season especially has been fantastic I have to say.

    That sentence.....FFS!

    To see him in the hospital bed , saying it wasn't her , to him saying yes he'd like help , was heartbreaking as you knew he knew that he needed to get as far away as possible from her .
    Think last night was the most powerful and emotional episode yet , imo .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Kind of in the same vein as last week with the guy going into 5 years hiding in the woods after being physically abused by the other guy.

    She should have been given life for murder, but I can see why they couldn't link the head trauma to the great attack.

    At a stretch she should have gotten done for the GBH with intent.

    CCTV in the UK solves a lot of crime though, not sure if I'd like that level over here though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,305 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    BPKS wrote: »
    I cant help thinking that if the genders were reversed in this case it would have been far longer than 16 months.

    It really was a difficult watch.

    "Where do you want to go?

    Heaven.

    Devon?

    I said heaven."

    Awful story.
    Totally agree, the sentence from the other assault was a joke as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Treppen wrote: »
    Ya she should have been given life for murder, but I can see why they couldn't link the head trauma to the great attack.

    At a stretch she should have gotten done for the GBH with intent.

    CCTV in the UK solves a lot of crime though, not sure if I'd like that level over here though!

    Many CCTV around here but more so private such as dash cams, door bell cams, businesses etc..... Street cams I see no harm to be honest once used to cut crime and instances such as this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Got away with it based on gender, disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,099 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Poor lad got his wish in the end wanting to go to heaven. Very sad RIP

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭TimHorton


    Treppen wrote: »
    Kind of in the same vein as last week with the guy going into 5 years hiding in the woods after being physically abused by the other guy.

    She should have been given life for murder, but I can see why they couldn't link the head trauma to the great attack.

    At a stretch she should have gotten done for the GBH with intent.

    CCTV in the UK solves a lot of crime though, not sure if I'd like that level over here though!

    Exactly , I also watched the detectives on BBC about the Manchester Murder , The entire case was built on Phone Data and CCTV , They were able to prove all sorts of connections and several guys got significant jail time ,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,416 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    New series starts Monday at 9pm.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Jesus that latest one was a hard watch. What an animal.

    Lots of unanswered questions though - why he targetted them? Why the crazy level of violence if it was just a burglary?

    He is up for sentencing on October 7th.



  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Incredible viewing. Was it a totally motiveless random crime? Was the purpose simply to viciously attack and leave or was it an aggravated burglary gone wrong?

    he was a sex trafficker- did he turn to aggravated burglary for some reason? I was left with so many questions. There are certainly psychos out there- only in the last week in the UK a pizza delivery driver was arrested for an apparently random attack and murder of a young teacher. But it’s horrible when you actually see these attacks live on camera.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,226 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Last night's show left a lot of unanswered questions alright.

    I have a feeling there was more than meets the eye with the Chinese family.

    The perpetrator of the vicious assaults was involved in the sex trade and people trafficking racket.

    The house and car (and even the extent and quality of the CCTV system in the house) of the Chinese family seemed a bit much for a guy who worked in a nail bar (cash business).

    Obviously I am not excusing the crime but they always say to start with the motive. This guy was an enforcer and maybe he was laying down a marker on behalf of his bosses.



  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I dare say, my mind did wander in a similar direction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Have agree, I was perplexed at why this family was targeted and also the determination of the father of the girl who was brutally assaulted to stir things up on Social media and the 20k reward, there was something very ,very odd about him and this toe rag didn't just happen upon this house, he was there for a reason, it was no chance burglary and dare I say he was looking for the Father IMO, the scumbag made no effort to steal anything, knew there was CCTV (thought he got the systems hard drive before leaving)

    He was utter scum however and glad he was finally caught .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭TimHorton


    He actually would not have been caught without the Social Media exposure, It clearly states a guy recognized him from the coverage in Romanian Media and called it in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,305 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Look I would be lying if I said the thought hadnt crossed my mind about the Asian family...but there was zero indication of that. Would you or I automatically go to that if the family weren't Asian? Someone involved in that world tbh would not want the publicity....they would also have connections no doubt to find him. I know people who are involved in bars etc they have a lot of cash...the cameras are pretty standard, I would think nail salons are similar. It could however be in relation to "protection" money not being paid, or he reported the brothel, who knows.

    The 20k reward helped....he fleed to Romania that night...he was all over the news by looks of it and made him too high profile to hide out.

    Let's hope he gets a nice long sentence, no idea how he managed to get off with the sex trafficking/prostitution charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    O, I'm not doubting that I just sensed the father was quite obsessive when it came to uploading video and seemed to be getting DM"s even after the footage was removed albeit well shared at that stage. I just found the father's behaviour generally very odd. Also the CCTV set up, I've 24 hr cctv at my home (outside) , but certainly not inside and in what seemed every room, very creepy indeed.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Personally I've not mentioned the ethnicity of the family or indeed the scumbag, I'm more curious as to why this house (actually I believe family) we're targeted, I'm also curious about any home needing CCTV in what appeared every room inside the property, very, very odd, somewhat creepy and certainly over the top.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,670 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Despicable human being


    I assumed the family owned the nail bar - and it seemed a busy place, cctv in the house is certainly common in the US and other places so that wouldn't make me suspicious

    Still we will have to wait for the court case in about 10 days time to find out why he targeted them - he even knew there was cctv, maybe a family feud...



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  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's exactly what I took from last night's programme, them local cops weren't getting anywhere......if the "ante" hadn't been upped with social media that scumbag would've had a year or two in Zurich with the lovely Anna & been back in business



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Imagine what violence he metes out to the women (children some of them) in his 'businesses'.

    It's possible they couldn't find one of the trafficked women to give evidence I suppose, given that they all seem to have families back in Romania that he or his henchmen could target.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,416 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Mad episode, hopefully he gets a life of pure hell in jail, especially if the inmates were watching last night.

    I get the impression with the father/husband/son of the victims that it's not over yet if you know what I mean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Yyhhuuu


    I didn't think this was a great episode. Will wait for conclusion. Couldn't believe the level of aggression and violence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,416 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    There is none, it's a single episode. Next Monday is a different investigation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭BobMc


    i concur with alot said above, so many questions, dont believe for one second a random attack, it was either protection racket or perhaps it was competition to his own brothel activities, even the cops kept asking why this house, was it random? they found it odd too, seems to have plenty cash and the CCTV indoors was very very odd



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anybody watching tonight??? Not a great episode....a bunch of lads kicking off about a peri- peri takeaway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Yeah, poor one tonight. Just a pack of scumbags taking shots at each other. Baffling how yer man with the shotgun, who was seen and arrested by police with the gun was found not guilty. Lol. Grand justice system.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It really shows that you get the 'representation ' you pay for....... that state prosecutor wasn't up to much.......obviously all them lads with machetes & guns had 'top drawer' counsel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭BobMc


    Visible disappointment from the coppers too, he really held back what was obviously going thru his mind, must be ver disheartening to see that kind of thuggery go un punished, Crown prosecutor didnt come across on screen as the brightest bulb



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  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Therein lies the problem.....crown prosecutor on £90K a year........top criminal defence lawyer Looking at more than that PER CASE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,305 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    That was the one that stood out for me....what was his excuse...oh I am just taking my loaded sawn off shotgun for a walk...


    Pretty sickening they all nearly got off, even the guy with the tonnes of drugs only got 2 and a bit years which seemed light



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭TimHorton


    We need another Anthony McGrath type episode to get the series back on track. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-56564228😎



  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭bugsyb4


    Fair weird looking fella with all the drugs in the shed.

    Poor season so far from something that has been so good in the past!



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tonight's episode doesn't look too promising..... part1 of a 2parter, historic sex allegations in Luton???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Jaysus that was rough. Yer man actually laughed at one point. Surely since they're airing all this, the case has to be done and him in prison already



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I had a gander on the ol Google machine......... convicted last week on loads of counts............SENTENCING THIS WEDS 13TH



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,305 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    That was a very tough episode. The part where he rubbed the hair of the kid in the picture literally gave me shivers

    Will definitely watch next week to see the outcome.

    How the hell did he get away with that rape of an adult?! His semen was inside him and rohypnol in the drinks



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Sentence delivered this afternoon.... life sentence.......MIN of 22yrs!!!!!!!!!!!


    It appears even more victims have come forward since/ following Monday night's episode.


    Methinks ole Carter Grimes is about to enter a world of sxxt



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,416 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    The guy from a few weeks who entered that home in the unprovoked attack was sentenced today, he got 16 years...

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10092279/Fake-Amazon-delivery-driver-36-faces-jail-home-invasion.html



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