Lions eat poacher - just leave his head

Hector Savage

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43035474

South African lions eat 'poacher', leaving just his head

A suspected big cat poacher has been eaten by lions near the Kruger National Park in South Africa, police say.

The animals left little behind, but some body parts were found over the weekend at a game park near Hoedspruit.

"It seems the victim was poaching in the game park when he was attacked and killed by lions," Limpopo police spokesman Moatshe Ngoepe told AFP.

"They ate his body, nearly all of it, and just left his head and some remains."

Police have not yet established the victim's identity. A loaded hunting rifle and ammunition were found next to the body, South African website Eyewitness News reports.

Lion poaching has been on the rise in Limpopo province in recent years.
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blade1

He can only go head hunting now

silverharp

well his favourite food was baked beings

Hector Savage

He should have kept calm, hunting Lions is not a time to lose your head !

endacl

He’ll be easy to buy for at Xmas now. Hope he likes hats.

Lyle Lanley

Jaysus. How did he survive that?

Chrongen

The lions should have mounted the head on their wall. That would have been a nice touch.

Are Am Eye

Chrongen wrote: »

The lions should have mounted the head on their wall. That would have been a nice touch.

T'wud be their pride and joy.

Spudmonkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtFmFJgmmIs

wakka12

I don't get the making fun of /taking joy in his death. Yeh he was committing a crime and did so at his own risk so I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it but I think its hypocritical, we all have millions of innocent animals killed daily for our meals and lions aren't even an endangered species

It was still a horrible way to die and he probably had family so i think its ****ty to make fun of it.

People seem to have such weird views on justice when any animal is involved, I remember a video of a lady who was training a horse and she was overly aggressive and spooked it, it kicked her in the face and now she's permanently deformed/disabled..everyone in the comments was basically like 'good enough for her for scaring the horse'
How the **** did she deserve that, we all do much worse to other humans and we wouldn't say somebody deserves being permanently maimed for annoying/scaring somebody so why'd she deserve it for being rude to a horse

TheIrishGrover

wakka12 wrote: »

.... It was still a horrible way to die and he probably had family so i think its ****ty to make fun of it......

Are you saying we should arm lions so they can make their deaths quicker?

'cos that would be AWESOME!!!!!!

dinorebel

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't get the making fun of /taking joy in his death. Yeh he was committing a crime and did so at his own risk so I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it but I think its hypocritical, we all have millions of innocent animals killed daily for our meals and lions aren't even an endangered species

It was still a horrible way to die and he probably had family so i think its ****ty to make fun of it.

People seem to have such weird views on justice when any animal is involved, I remember a video of a lady who was training a horse and she was overly aggressive and spooked it, it kicked her in the face and now she's permanently deformed/disabled..everyone in the comments was basically like 'good enough for her for scaring the horse'
How the **** did she deserve that, we all do much worse to other humans and we wouldn't say somebody deserves being permanently maimed for annoying/scaring somebody so why'd she deserve it for being rude to a horse

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Are you saying we should arm lions so they can make their deaths quicker?

'cos that would be AWESOME!!!!!!

No way I'm feline sad about this.

blue note

Are they planning to stick the head on a wall or something? Would be fair enough I suppose.

blade1

Chrongen wrote: »

The lions should have mounted the head on their wall. That would have been a nice touch.

They have more class than that.

JohnnyFlash

Love watching those big cats documentaries on the telly. Magnificent and terrifying creatures. Surprised they even left the head.

blade1

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Surprised they even left the head.

They knew a shîthead when they saw one.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Poaching big game is a horrid practice but I'd prefer perpetrators to be caught and severely reprimanded by the law than be eaten by a Pride of Lions.

Hard to think of a worse death.

Discodog

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Poaching big game is a horrid practice but I'd prefer perpetrators to be caught and severely reprimanded by the law than be eaten by a Pride of Lions.

Hard to think of a worse death.

Killing a Lion so it's cubs starve to death is pretty bad. Unlike the poachers, Lions kill quickly.

Amirani

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't get the making fun of /taking joy in his death. Yeh he was committing a crime and did so at his own risk so I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it but I think its hypocritical, we all have millions of innocent animals killed daily for our meals and lions aren't even an endangered species

It was still a horrible way to die and he probably had family so i think its ****ty to make fun of it.

People seem to have such weird views on justice when any animal is involved, I remember a video of a lady who was training a horse and she was overly aggressive and spooked it, it kicked her in the face and now she's permanently deformed/disabled..everyone in the comments was basically like 'good enough for her for scaring the horse'
How the **** did she deserve that, we all do much worse to other humans and we wouldn't say somebody deserves being permanently maimed for annoying/scaring somebody so why'd she deserve it for being rude to a horse

Yeah, people are hypocrites. If you're a vegan and are happy at something like this, fair enough. If you're someone who eats meat and wears animals, you're a hypocrite.

I'm no vegan/veggie, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over this, but I'm not going to go get any joy from death; human or animal, just seems a bit perverse to me.

Jokes/dark humour about it, perfectly fine. Having a little orgy of celebration, less so. Just my opinion.

RobertKK

It is this type of person that leads to animals becoming endangered. He was playing a dangerous game hunting in a national park, which is illegal and it should be remembered that the park rangers who try and protect these animals have to be armed, because some of these poachers are armed and prepared to shoot more than just the animals in he park.
It was reported in 2015 that park rangers killed close to 500 poachers over a 5 year period.
Maybe if the lions hadn't gotten him, the park rangers would have. One can say lions aren't endangered but every lion killed illegally, it adds up over time.

RobertKK

Amirani wrote: »

Yeah, people are hypocrites. If you're a vegan and are happy at something like this, fair enough. If you're someone who eats meat and wears animals, you're a hypocrite.

I'm no vegan/veggie, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over this, but I'm not going to go get any joy from death; human or animal, just seems a bit perverse to me.

Jokes/dark humour about it, perfectly fine. Having a little orgy of celebration, less so. Just my opinion.

No, not a hypocrite, killing animals illegally and eating them would make one a hypocrite.
The human/cattle relationship actually works great for both species, and has helped each species to thrive.
If everyone went vegan, hundreds of millions of cattle who breed and or produce dairy products would end up being slaughtered and a much shorter life.

Discodog

If you hunt you believe that you are the superior species & have dominion over the animals.

These Lions just restored the balance for once. He turned from killer to into food so he did some good.

Agricola

Tilikum17

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't get the making fun of /taking joy in his death. Yeh he was committing a crime and did so at his own risk so I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it but I think its hypocritical, we all have millions of innocent animals killed daily for our meals and lions aren't even an endangered species

It was still a horrible way to die and he probably had family so i think its ****ty to make fun of it.

People seem to have such weird views on justice when any animal is involved, I remember a video of a lady who was training a horse and she was overly aggressive and spooked it, it kicked her in the face and now she's permanently deformed/disabled..everyone in the comments was basically like 'good enough for her for scaring the horse'
How the **** did she deserve that, we all do much worse to other humans and we wouldn't say somebody deserves being permanently maimed for annoying/scaring somebody so why'd she deserve it for being rude to a horse

50 years ago there was 450,000 lions in Africa, now they think there’s a few as 20,000.

They are seriously endangered. I wonder how many lions he’s killed?

donegaLroad

Terrible way to go, but if you live by the sword, etc.

JoshRosen

Love reading these kind of story’s.

s15r330

endacl wrote: »

He’ll be easy to buy for at Xmas now. Hope he likes hats.

I proper lol'd on the train!

pleas advice

easy way to get rid of the evidence. plant a rifle next to the body, blame the lions...

wakka12

Tilikum17 wrote: »

50 years ago there was 450,000 lions in Africa, now they think there’s a few as 20,000.

They are seriously endangered. I wonder how many lions he’s killed?

Even though their numbers have declined(as have the majority of wild animals due to human habitat expansion much more so than poaching) they're not considered endangered, their status is vulnerable.

I wonder why we aren't baying for the blood of loggers who are killing one hundred fold the amount of wild endangered animals across the world than poachers are

Its because the public has some weirdly distorted moral compass with regards the rights of certain animals and different animals are treated completely differently to one another for no justifiable reason

Odyssey 2005

pleas advice wrote: »

easy way to get rid of the evidence. plant a rifle next to the body, blame the lions...

Body ?? :)

pleas advice

exactly

enricoh

Set up a GoFundMe page for the poacher if ye are so concerned. Fook the loss, good work by the lion imo!

justfillmein

beautiful case of karma this is

Greyfox

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't get the making fun of /taking joy in his death...we all have millions of innocent animals killed daily for our meals and lions aren't even an endangered species

Reading the story made me very happy and I wouldn't blame anybody for making jokes. people who hunt for pure sport are scum and it's very very rare that a lion gets the better of a human, same thing with bullfighting. He knew the danger when he went hunting. Also killing for food is very very different to killing for fun

Pac1Man

Just lions being lions.

wakka12

Greyfox wrote: »

Reading the story made me very happy and I wouldn't blame anybody for making jokes. people who hunt for pure sport are scum and it's very very rare that a lion gets the better of a human, same thing with bullfighting. He knew the danger when he went hunting. Also killing for food is very very different to killing for fun

you eat meat because it tastes nice, i.e.. for pleasure, like sport. It is not necessary at all, thousands of other sources of nutrient and protein that sustain you just as well. And I eat meat and love meat, but Ill admit Im killing innocent animals for it when i don't need to .

But everyone thinks theyre so much better than this poacher.

gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

If you hunt you believe that you are the superior species & have dominion over the animals.

These Lions just restored the balance for once. He turned from killer to into food so he did some good.

Humans have hunted since the dawn of time. Only since the adoption of agriculture have most humans moved away from having to rely on hunting as a source of food. Although there are still plenty of tribal peoples and others who hunt for that very reason.

Animals also hunt other animals for the purpose of obtaining food and subsistence both carnivores such as lions, hyenas, dolphins, polar bears and omnivores including pigs, badgers, bears, civets, hedgehogs, skunks, squirrels, raccoons, mice, and rats.

Imo none of these animals or humans do so because "they believe that (they) are the superior species"

Humans also hunt for other reasons than subsistence including managing animal populations, the control of predators and yes even trophy hunting. Do they do so because they feel 'superior' or because they have 'dominion? I believe those are primarily relict religous concepts and not a valid description of modern human motives for hunting.

Perhaps it is more true to say that majority of humans do think they are superior to other animals at some level or other. Because of intelligence, technology civilisation and even our own species bias.

Wild animals whether hunted or otherwise are increasingly marginalised on a planet where humans dominate nearly every land mass and large parts of oceans.

It remains that humans are animals too and yes from time to time they do end up in the food chain in the wild - though this is hardly 'restoring the balance' - more like a brief return to way things were before the proceses of 'civilisation' wiped out huge numbers of other animals. Something whether we like it or not all humans are complicit with.

enricoh

wakka12 wrote: »

you eat meat because it tastes nice, i.e.. for pleasure, like sport. It is not necessary at all, thousands of other sources of nutrient and protein that sustain you just as well. And I eat meat and love meat, but Ill admit Im killing innocent animals for it when i don't need to .

But everyone thinks theyre so much better than this poacher.

Jesus h Christ, is this what the world is coming to? Do u think a farmer would rare say 100 cattle for the craic if there was no market for them? They would never exist if there was no market for there meat.
And that's the same as poachers driving species to the point of Extinction? Who knew!

Dev84

Dreadful stuff. Does anyone deserve to die this way?

wakka12

enricoh wrote: »

Jesus h Christ, is this what the world is coming to? Do u think a farmer would rare say 100 cattle for the craic if there was no market for them? They would never exist if there was no market for there meat.
And that's the same as poachers driving species to the point of Extinction? Who knew!

And Im sure they'd rather not have been born than slaughtered for your dinner, if they could tell us and knew what was going to happen them in the future. An animal death is an animal death, I don't think killing one type of animal can be completely justifiable while killing another type of animal is reprehensible

And I think the fact that we domesticated them and hence we are the reason for their existence is an extremely poor argument in favour of killing any animal

I just think its crazy the mental gymnastics people go through with regards the rights they give certain animals over other animals. Horses are not endangered and are domestic and if somebody was shooting horses and a horse kicked him in the face and died it would be exact same reaction as this poacher got

Completely hypocritical

Also; its habitat loss due to human activity that is by far the biggest contributor to lion deaths, not poachers. Just another hypocritical thing, people only caring about poachers and not their own lifestyle which is killing way more lions.

gozunda

Tilikum17 wrote: »

50 years ago there was 450,000 lions in Africa, now they think there’s a few as 20,000.

They are seriously endangered. I wonder how many lions he’s killed?

50 years ago the human population of Africa was just under 400 million people - today there is well over a billion people*. Human population increases have been responsible for many of the pressures on the survival of many animals including lions. That said I doubt yer man killed 430,000 lions ....



*1967 - 338,656,136

2017 - 1,256,268,025

cursai

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Body ?? :)

Eh! Did you not read the story. The lions ate it.

cursai

People shouldn't hunt what they don't eat or have to kill for safety of persons or culling.

GreeBo

Hunting/killing to eat is the natural order of things.

Killing for sport is not natural.
It's what separates us from cats...cats are dicks.

wakka12

GreeBo wrote: »

Hunting/killing to eat is the natural order of things.

Killing for sport is not natural.
It's what separates us from cats...cats are dicks.

Lots of species of animals kill for sport/pleasure/out of boredom/simply to show dominance or power.
But I agree, as humans we should know better. And we kill enough animals through feeding our fat faces and through habitat destruction. And we have enough hobbies to keep us busy without resorting to it.

gozunda

GreeBo wrote: »

Hunting/killing to eat is the natural order of things.

Killing for sport is not natural.
It's what separates us from cats...cats are dicks.

Lions are cats ... are they dicks too?

Whats natural? Many animals do kill for 'sport' including foxes and wild cats ... go figure

wakka12

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't get the making fun of /taking joy in his death. Yeh he was committing a crime and did so at his own risk so I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it but I think its hypocritical, we all have millions of innocent animals killed daily for our meals and lions aren't even an endangered species

Nothing hypocritical about it all. TBH I'd put the value of a majestic animal like a lion ahead of the value of quite a few humans. I'd likely feel the same about my neighbors' cat.

It's more hypocritical to suggest that you really care that much about people you don't know anything about. Are you crying at night for the starving children, praying for humans who die of disease, etc etc etc? Somehow I doubt it. You're probably the same as I am. You don't think about it unless you notice an article, think about for a few moments and then continue with your life.

Meh. Hypocritical... Now.. If I had to personally choose between the life of a human I had seen or met and an animal... That would be different, but about some people who will never touch on my life?

gozunda

cursai wrote: »

People shouldn't hunt what they don't eat or have to kill for safety of persons or culling.

People 'shouldn't' do a lot of things - and yet they do. People shouldn't take pleasure in other people's deaths - a bunch of them on here have - lots of humans are not that nice imo ...

wakka12

Deleted User wrote: »

Nothing hypocritical about it all. TBH I'd put the value of a majestic animal like a lion ahead of the value of quite a few humans. I'd likely feel the same about my neighbors' cat.

It's more hypocritical to suggest that you really care that much about people you don't know anything about. Are you crying at night for the starving children, praying for humans who die of disease, etc etc etc? Somehow I doubt it. You're probably the same as I am. You don't think about it unless you notice an article, think about for a few moments and then continue with your life.

Meh. Hypocritical... Now.. If I had to personally choose between the life of a human I had seen or met and an animal... That would be different, but about some people who will never touch on my life?

I genuinely do feel bad about this particular fellow, can't say I usually do about people I hear die in news articles, merely because of the fact that being torn apart and devoured by giant lions sounds like one of the most horrible deaths imaginable

Greyfox

wakka12 wrote: »

you eat meat because it tastes nice, i.e.. for pleasure, like sport. It is not necessary at all, thousands of other sources of nutrient and protein that sustain you just as well. And I eat meat and love meat, but Ill admit Im killing innocent animals for it when i don't need to .

But everyone thinks theyre so much better than this poacher.

But there are laws in most countries to stop animals from suffering a drawn out death (they should be enforced more). The basic principal of 1 man killing 1 animal to feed his family seems hard to have a problem with, this principal has got a little out of control with the crazy amount of animals we kill but if humans cut back dramatically it would have a big impact on the economy. Killing for meat comes from a practical, convenient and logical source. Hunting comes from a need for a person to feel superior. yes I get pleasure from eating meat but the hunter gets pleasure in the actual act of killing which I find disgusting

cursai

gozunda wrote: »

People 'shouldn't' do a lot of things - and yet they do. People shouldn't take pleasure in other people's deaths - a bunch of them on here have - lots of humans are not that nice tbh ...

They still shouldn't do it, so......