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    #32
    Ajsoprano
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Stay in the places they stay during the week.

    That’s a pretty heartless way of looking at things. In your future view of the world the average semi skilled worker should, after training for a year should live in a hostel with his family and 20 other lads?


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    #33
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Country in 7 years has only added 120,000 new jobs in every sector of the economy.

    A great success story. So you know who to vote for in the next general erection.


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    #34
    wexie
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    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    on a Monday morning at 4 am while eating a cold can of also beans.

    What are also beans?


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    #35
    Ajsoprano
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    wexie wrote: »
    What are also beans?

    Aldi beans sorry I’m new here and not used to using my phone for internet speak, sometimes it predictive texts my post.


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    #36
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    Aldi beans sorry I’m new here and not used to using my phone for internet speak, sometimes it predictive texts my post.

    Don't apologize dude, was a bad and misplaced joke :(


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    #37
    0byme75341jo28
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    Outkast_IRE wrote: »
    The construction industry is in a sorry state at the minute but it suits some of the big builders cause it's way easier to hire 10 small scale subbies and screw them over rather than one large guy who may have the deep pockets to battle them in the courts when they don't pay or negotiate down the contract after the fact.

    I am in the consultant engineering game and the way that the main contractors/builders are operating is only going to screw themselves over in the long run. No wonder nobody is taking up carpentry, block laying or plastering you end up working for below minimum wage.

    The industry is in dire need of a strong union

    So many trades could do with a responsible union. Unfortunately society appears to be going in the opposite direction and the unions we have are a bunch of impotent money grabbers.

    It's a shame "union" has become a dirty word. Worker's rights are arguably more important now than ever.


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    #38
    dxhound2005
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    So many aspects of this story are beyond my understanding. Why does Social Welfare take 40 residents of Galway all the way to Dublin every Monday morning at 4 am to train them on building sites during the week? And take them back to Galway on Friday evening? Lots of other questions.

    But whatever the reason there is no need for them to eat cold beans on Mondays at 3.30 am. They could heat the beans, or have some other food.


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    #39
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    _Brian wrote: »
    Governments have been using “employment schemes” and “training schemes” to massage the unemployed figures for a long time.
    They fill these with people of the long term unemployed lists so as to reduce this figure as much as possible.

    It also gives employers practically free labour and means losses of genuine good paying jobs. It's a total farce.


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    Ajsoprano
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    So many aspects of this story are beyond my understanding. Why does Social Welfare take 40 residents of Galway all the way to Dublin every Monday morning at 4 am to train them on building sites during the week? And take them back to Galway on Friday evening? Lots of other questions.

    But whatever the reason there is no need for them to eat cold beans on Mondays at 3.30 am. They could heat the beans, or have some other food.

    He was eating the cold beans on his lunch break at 10 am when I was talking to him.


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    #41
    Bob_Marley
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    Outkast_IRE wrote: »
    The construction industry is in a sorry state at the minute

    It's a gangsters dream paradise, reems of regulations but effectively zero enforcement of said regulations. Makes it utterly impossible for anyone who's legit and wants to comply with the regs to compete. - But don't worry Mr Ordinary Taxpayer will pick up the bill every time the scandals hit.


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    #42
    dxhound2005
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    It also gives employers practically free labour and means losses of genuine good paying jobs. It's a total farce.

    At least the 61,000 on the schemes are getting involved in some activity, unlike the much higher number who receive an unemployment payment, but do not have to leave their house. 21,000 are in Community Employment schemes about which I know very little. Are they actually displacing real jobs? Another 16,000 are on back to education and training schemes, which I would regard as the equivalent of third level education. University students are not counted as unemployed.

    Overall the impact on the jobs market is minimal. The schemes were even bigger back when we had hundreds of thousands of foreign workers coming here to fill job vacancies. How can that be explained?


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    #43
    Ajsoprano
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    At least the 61,000 on the schemes are getting involved in some activity, unlike the much higher number who receive an unemployment payment, but do not have to leave their house. 21,000 are in Community Employment schemes about which I know very little. Are they actually displacing real jobs? Another 16,000 are on back to education and training schemes, which I would regard as the equivalent of third level education. University students are not counted as unemployed.

    Overall the impact on the jobs market is minimal. The schemes were even bigger back when we had hundreds of thousands of foreign workers coming here to fill job vacancies. How can that be explained?

    These schemes are grand says the man who believes you should live in a hostel with your family up the other end of the country with 40 other unemployed people because you lost your job?


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    #44
    Ordinary man
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    Funnily enough i've seen ads for apprentice ceiling fixers/slabbers lately. Even though it's not recognised as a trade with papers. They could advertise as trainees but then would have to pay minimum rates. The construction game is getting worse and cowboys are definately on the rise


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    #45
    Mrs OBumble
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    fyi, Russian is the language which many Eastern Europeans have in common. So Poles use it to talk to Latvians etc. The OP may well have been hearing Russian.


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    #46
    Ajsoprano
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    fyi, Russian is the language which many Eastern Europeans have in common. So Poles use it to talk to Latvians etc. The OP may well have been hearing Russian.

    Everyday is a school day


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    #47
    tedpan
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    Wow, this thread is a joke


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    #48
    ToddyDoody
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    tedpan wrote: »
    Wow, this thread is a joke

    Retract that immediately.


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    #49
    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    It’s very possible it was some kind of European humour I don’t get.


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