Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

It's here. https://www.instagram.com/p/CzogEfntXxi/?hl=en

Cyrus

Good deal

CoBo55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387889#Comment_121387889

Many thanks, I was starting to doubt myself there 🫣

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387944#Comment_121387944

These things happen on the social platforms. Especially if it’s an ad. They don’t appear on the actual page of the company.

Seemly you can get it on the main site too by typing in a promo code. Got it by PM so thanks.

€400 nett cost is a great deal IMO.

CoBo55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121388606#Comment_121388606

I think it's a great price, mine was 499 net from EI in 2011, a nice neat looking CP.

kelbal

Hi. I'm potentially moving home soon, and as part of the move I'll be looking to get an electric car. I'd be fairly certain it's gonna be a 4 or 5 year old Nissan Leaf. The current owners of the place I'm moving to have a fairly new BMW 3 series, and they have a charger installed for it. I'm wondering, will this charger be compatible with the Leaf at all, or are the connections different? Can adaptors be used if the connectiins are different?

Thanks in advance

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058323357/bmw-charger-on-a-nissan-leaf

Should be fine, it’s most likely a Type 2 charger which will work on a leaf for AC (slow) charging. If you haven’t bought the Leaf yet, maybe consider an alternative EV ? Nissan Leafs can only fast charge (DC) using Chademo which is disappearing quickly from Public Fast Charge locations in favour of CCS.

Buddy Bubs

It'll be fine, it's all type 2 chargers at home.

However, educate yourself on the chademo chargers that leaf uses for public charging and how it's possibly / probably going to be phased out over the next few years before you make your choice. Nearly every other car uses CCS instead of chademo

kanuseeme

Is the charger tethered or untethered?

If its tethered, then a cable swap can be done if there is a problem, untethered just use cable that comes with the car.

Some BMWs are jap imports and have a type 1 socket (rare)

Nissan switched from type 1 to type 2 in 2018 (I think)

Any way, its not a huge problem, adaptors exist and cable swaps are possible.

Are you sure the charger is going to be left there? fairly easy to remove it, depending on the charger it could be worth up to 700 euro.

Just be wary that it doesn’t short out the circuits on your indicators.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121390359#Comment_121390359

Have you got a picture?

It will 99% sure it’s a type 2 connection so once you get a Leaf 40 onwards your grand.

Boscoirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121388606#Comment_121388606

We got this deal 2 weeks ago, Fokearn are the company that come install, they even installed off the Meter for us

Flinty997

Is it worth going untethered and a long cable, to save swapping around cars on the drive to reach the charger. I reckon I'll only be using the charger every 3-4 days. The flip side just the general ease of a tethered unit.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121411161#Comment_121411161

I do this. I have a long cable and both cars can be charged without moving them.

Buffman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121159835#Comment_121159835

These cables are for sale at €99.99 in the Lidl warehouse sale in Mullingar this weekend if anyone needs one, good value at that. There was a good few left when I was in earlier.

garo

I have a Zappi v2 and a Tesla Model S and I started having problems last week and now the Zappi won't charge the car. I got an error one morning after the overnight charge attempt saying the voltage was too high or something. i checked the readings at the time and nothing seemed out of order. I updated the latest Zappi firmware to 5.402 and tried again but it starts charging - i.e. Zappi goes green but the current never goes up beyond 3A before going back to 0 and after a while the Zappi and the car both give up and car says Charge failed. The Zappi retries a few times and then gives up.

The car is charging fine on DC and on the 11kW ESB charger near the house.I looked online and it could be one of several things:

1. The onboard charger has given up the ghost
2. "Dirty power" and a software update that now causes the onboard charger to protect itself and refuse to charge - i.e. the charger electronics are not the best and to prevent damage the software update now refuses to charge.
3. Poor connection on the Zappi.

2 seems unlikely since I haven't had any issues for 3 years - apart from a Zappi cable that was changed under warranty in August.

Does anyone here have any ideas? Also if anyone in north city Dublin (D3 or D5) has a Zappi v2 I could try my car with or has a Tesla Model S (or even another EV) that they wouldn't mind trying to charge at my house I would much appreciate it. Please send me a PM if you are willing to help out. Thanks.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414835#Comment_121414835

If your charging in the 11kw ESB unit then the on board charger should be fine as that’s AC, same as your house only 3 phase.

Can you test it on a friends home charger or anyone nearby that would let you plug in for a few mins to see if the problem replicates on another single phase charger.

garo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121414955#Comment_121414955

Yeah that's what had me confused. If anyone in Dublin 3 or 5 has a single phase charger I could borrow for a few minutes...

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415349#Comment_121415349

If your near D11 later, PM me.

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121411161#Comment_121411161

Better still, get a long tethered one. I replaced my 5M tethered with a 7.5M tethered and I can charge either car no matter where they are parked in the garden.

Dozz

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So this happened today.......

Any idea if it can be repaired?

Installer recommends a new one for €1000 supply & fit.

Cheers

CoBo55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121426281#Comment_121426281

Can't see it being too difficult, not much harder than wiring a plug. Hopefully it's easy to open up.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121426281#Comment_121426281

This or similar YT content may help you; https://youtu.be/MBq81HjC00w?si=fSBjCPeAVtiJRdPQ

Make sure you turn off the power supply at the isolator switch first.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121427151#Comment_121427151

And double up by switching the breaker in the consumer unit too.

Dozz

Thanks all. Appreciate the help.

Tell me does anyone know what the 4th white cable is that is shown in the picture?

Cheers

KCross

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121426281#Comment_121426281

The wires don't look like they were snapped out. It should be repairable but depends on how it happened.

Did it "just fall out" with a tug of the cable or was it ripped out with force?

Any damage done to the plastic casing? You wont know until its opened up really.

The white cable is a control cable that the car and charge point use to communicate with each other to stop/start/control the charging process.

Flinty997

I wonder did someone drive over the cable and pull it out of the box. Because you'd have to wonder is the charger damaged.

AmpMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121426281#Comment_121426281

That looks like an easy fix.

if you do buy a new one you could sell that on adverts and someone else would fix it.

Dont let the installer take it away

Dozz

So the cable was ripped out of the charger by a car reversing out beside it. Cable got stuck in the wheel arch.

Im hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

Any recommendations for cheap reliable replacement with tethered connection and scheduled charging setup?

Buffman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121426281#Comment_121426281

All those cables would have been crimped, and it looks like the crimps have just been pulled off them which would be good as it hopefully means the connectors they were screwed into might have escaped relatively intact. From the electrical side it would hopefully be just be a case of recrimping the cables and putting them back in the correct place. (The 4th white cable is the 'control pilot (CP)' which is how the charger and the car communicate with each other)

Unfortunately there is now probably a big hole in the bottom of your charger as some of the plastic bits that hold the cable in place and keep the elements out have most likely been broken. In the past I've fixed things like that with sealer and glue but it will all depend on how much damage was done. For now I'd get some tape over the hole to keep the insects and moisture out of it until you're going to look at it.

I assume the car that damaged it was family or whatever and you don't want to get them to cover the costs?