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2018 IRC Postgraduate Funding

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 jollystorm


    oh god..... Anyhow, it should be close to one hour that the system is down now. So that was about the time it was down for in previous year.
    I guess it should be up soon and either it's news for us or maybe like someone said first round for postdoc call... Alternatively, we are speculating for nothing, and the system being down means nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eire32contae


    An hour?! So basically I've wasted an hour of my life checking e-mails


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭DreamByDay


    An hour?! So basically I've wasted an hour of my life checking e-mails

    LOL

    Same here but I’m invigilating an exam for three students right now so there’s literally nothing else for me to do but mess around on my phone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RainbowUnicorn


    Last year it was 2 hours from the time it went down to the time the results were posted.. Might be another hour to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 jollystorm


    Last year it was 2 hours from the time it went down to the time the results were posted.. Might be another hour to go.

    Ok, I think now should be about 2hours, still no email and the system is down, too. I'm giving up for today. Also it's past business hours


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RainbowUnicorn


    So a new day of suspense... many nightmares were had last night ��


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 wizzer64


    Its absolute torture


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 dco_1987


    So a new day of suspense... many nightmares were had last night ��

    Good luck to all. Last night I dreamed that we collected the results in a room like you check your exam papers/Leaving Cert scenario. You had to turn the page over and see how much red pen there was on the application and then calculate your points to see if you got the funding. I wish I was joking!

    Can't wait to just know :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 murph86m


    Results are up, unfortunately I was unsuccessful, but best luck to all and thank you for the support over the last few weeks! :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RainbowUnicorn


    Results are up


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RainbowUnicorn


    I'm on the reserve list which i have to take as unsuccessful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 dco_1987


    Good luck all. I've got a conditional offer- what does that mean?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 murph86m


    That's something RainbowUnicorn, I scored 86% and was just 'unsuccessful'. Well done dco_1987!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RainbowUnicorn


    Conditional offer means you got it! Well done! What was your score?


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    Reserve list for me. 90, and 91.5 was the cut off.

    Thanks for the attempt, Ireland. I'm going to finish my commitments and move home, I guess.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eire32contae


    I was unsuccessful too :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭DreamByDay


    For AHSS the cutoff was 87.5, I got a conditional offer (conditional on what??), super delighted but disappointed for everyone on here who didn’t get it. Thanks everyone for all the support and I hope we all end up on our feet!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eire32contae


    Well done! On my email it said the cut-off for AHSS was 91.5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭DreamByDay


    just noticed my email says « category one » of ahss so maybe they had subgroups like a vs h vs ss


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 murph86m


    Well done! On my email it said the cut-off for AHSS was 91.5

    My email said the cut off for category 1 of AHSS was 87.5


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RainbowUnicorn


    Yeah stem was categorised too. My email says category 1


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eire32contae


    Yeah mine was category 2 whatever that means


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Smegging hell


    I'm on the reserve list which i have to take as unsuccessful.

    There's still an outside chance. Someone in my department was put on the reserve list and ultimately got it, so it does happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Smegging hell


    DreamByDay wrote: »
    For AHSS the cutoff was 87.5, I got a conditional offer (conditional on what??), super delighted but disappointed for everyone on here who didn’t get it. Thanks everyone for all the support and I hope we all end up on our feet!!

    Conditional on sending in transcripts etc proving that you got the grades you said you did, or at least that was the way when I applied. It's then upgraded to full award holder when all that is sorted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 dco_1987


    Well done to those who got the IRC and sorry to those who were unsuccessful. Just for those who did not get it- I self funded first year, got faculty funding (TCD) for second year and now IRC. The self funding was really tough, but I survived by teaching and working on the side. Then the faculty funding was €8000 and fees paid. Again, it is really tough but doable with support from family (and an AIB loan.) It can be stressful and really hard sometimes, but don't give up and definitely look into faculty funding.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Ruire


    DreamByDay wrote: »
    just noticed my email says « category one » of ahss so maybe they had subgroups like a vs h vs ss

    The categories seem to be the category of the applicant, i.e. EU or international. 5.2 or p.6 of the handbook.

    I have a conditional offer, now let's see how they like e-transcripts...


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    dco_1987 wrote: »
    It can be stressful and really hard sometimes, but don't give up and definitely look into faculty funding.
    Please forgive the ignorance but what is faculty funding?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 jollystorm


    BlowInYank wrote: »
    Please forgive the ignorance but what is faculty funding?

    I think they are referring to the Ussher fellowship and the Postgraduate Studentship of TCD. As far as I know, the first is open to incoming students but the second one is also open for continuing PhDs. It's not as much, but ways better than nothing and also it's doable with a little part-time work. Usually, the Director of Teaching and Learning should know. In my school the deadline is around May normally

    I had good news today, so now I'm hoping that the IRC will like my transcripts...Congrats to those successful in their IRC and sorry to the others. Anyhow, thanks for the support during the wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 dco_1987


    BlowInYank wrote: »
    Please forgive the ignorance but what is faculty funding?

    Hey- yes as above. Sorry for not being clear. In Trinity- the Schools have Funding that you can apply for. For incoming first years- there is the Ussher (you can only apply for this if you have received a conditional offer from Trinity). This will cover EU or non EU fees and a stipend of €16,000.

    There is "1252 Scholarships" which are €8,000 plus fees paid. New or continuing students can apply.

    There is a new scholarship called "Provost Awards" and is €16,000 plus fees paid. This is for new entrants.
    There are teaching requirements for the Trinity scholarships.


    Other universities have scholarships too- I only know of Maynooth University's as I did my undergrad and masters there. They have the John and Pat Hume Scholarship, €16,000 plus fees. I think they also have teaching fellowships now as well. Just to note on teaching fellowship- there is massive teaching commitments for that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Smegging hell


    dco_1987 wrote: »
    Other universities have scholarships too- I only know of Maynooth University's as I did my undergrad and masters there. They have the John and Pat Hume Scholarship, €16,000 plus fees.

    In NUIG there's the Hardiman Scholarships, the deadline for which was in Feb (€16,000 p.a. plus fees) and the Galway Doctoral Scholarship, with a deadline of 16 April (€15,000 p.a., from which the student levy and fees are paid)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    TCD has transitioned to some kind of programme where potential supervisors create potential theses for students and submit them to go out with funding, i.e. incoming first-years apply for acceptance and funding together in the form of applying to these calls for theses. So, according to the scholarship coordinator, there is a single non-first-year studentship left over for the whole of the history and humanities school...


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 dco_1987


    BlowInYank wrote: »
    TCD has transitioned to some kind of programme where potential supervisors create potential theses for students and submit them to go out with funding, i.e. incoming first-years apply for acceptance and funding together in the form of applying to these calls for theses. So, according to the scholarship coordinator, there is a single non-first-year studentship left over for the whole of the history and humanities school...

    As far as I know the funding has been cut pretty heavily in Trinity. I know that you used to be able to transfer the balance of a 1252 scholarship to another student, if IRC had been obtained by holder of the 1252. You can no longer to that in my department, don't know about history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Zoinks


    I'm on the reserve list which i have to take as unsuccessful.

    I was on this boat, and whilst it did not work out, there is enough flux that your chances are not nil. My advice to you has to be to forget about it for now though, or the general anxiety will continue right til about October.

    Congratulations and commiserations to all those who got results today. There will be alternative funding options for those who did not succeed, do be vigilant and keep your eyes peeled.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    I’ve only been able to tell a dozen people my results (reserve at 90 with a 91.5 cutoff) and three of them asked me if I was going to request an appeal/re-marking. As an American I wouldn’t dream of even asking, but I see that re-marking exam results is a typical part of Irish education. Has anyone ever heard of asking for a re-evaluation?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eire32contae


    Oh my god you got 90... that’s so tough, why didn’t they give you the other 1.5 :( I’ve no idea whether you can appeal the decision or not, sorry, I’m guessing you can’t though...


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    I mean, I get it, I'm not an EU citizen, they have to give us fewer scholarships and thus the cut off is higher. It sucks, but, this at the very least is a line on the CV and anyone who knows IRC knows a 90 is a very high score.

    Anyone know about getting feedback? Is there a link for it, or do they email it to us? I don't see any markings on the application PDF, do they update it later?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 eire32contae


    It said on my e-mail, under the table with the scores: "As stated in the Guide for Applicants, additional qualitative feedback will not be provided."

    So I don't think we get any feedback other than the score?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Zoinks


    You can request your score broken down by category.

    As for appeals, I don't believe it would go anywhere unless you could evidence irregularities of some sort in the process--a simple recheck cannot be requested afaik.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 dco_1987


    Zoinks wrote: »
    You can request your score broken down by category.

    As for appeals, I don't believe it would go anywhere unless you could evidence irregularities of some sort in the process--a simple recheck cannot be requested afaik.

    Here is the appeals process document for anyone looking.

    http://research.ie/assets/uploads/2017/05/declined_funding_appeals_policy_and_prodecures-1.pdf


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Drakky


    Hi! I was just wondering whether anyone knows what the cutoff was for STEM Category 1, please? Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RainbowUnicorn


    The cut off was 88.5 in stem category 1


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    dco_1987 wrote: »
    Zoinks wrote: »
    You can request your score broken down by category.

    As for appeals, I don't believe it would go anywhere unless you could evidence irregularities of some sort in the process--a simple recheck cannot be requested afaik.

    Here is the appeals process document for anyone looking.

    http://research.ie/assets/uploads/2017/05/declined_funding_appeals_policy_and_prodecures-1.pdf

    I wrote a polite email this morning asking for the ‘Explanation by the IRC Programme Manager‘ that I am entitled to, according to the appeals document.


    Apparently, being on the reserve list means I do not deserve a word of feedback until 1 October.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 RainbowUnicorn


    I emailed asking for a breakdown of score and received it. Is it really the 1st of October before word of reserve is received??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Zoinks


    BlowInYank wrote: »
    dco_1987 wrote: »
    Zoinks wrote: »
    You can request your score broken down by category.

    As for appeals, I don't believe it would go anywhere unless you could evidence irregularities of some sort in the process--a simple recheck cannot be requested afaik.

    Here is the appeals process document for anyone looking.

    http://research.ie/assets/uploads/2017/05/declined_funding_appeals_policy_and_prodecures-1.pdf

    I wrote a polite email this morning asking for the ‘Explanation by the IRC Programme Manager‘ that I am entitled to, according to the appeals document.


    Apparently, being on the reserve list means I do not deserve a word of feedback until 1 October.

    They wouldn't even give you a point break-down? I don't understand the rationale if not--I mean they have already given you your overall score. You need that well before October 1 if you want to submit another application.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    ‘...We have no control over when awardees decide to inform us of a decision to decline their award, which can happen at any point up to 1 October 2018, so unfortunately I cannot give you any further information at this time.

    Finally, as detailed in the Guide for Applicants, feedback will consist of the score assigned by the Inner International Assessment Board. Additional qualitative feedback will not be provided.’

    So, nope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Zoinks


    Between FoI laws and the GDPR I think there may be a possibility of wrenching this information from them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    Not sure it’s worth it to stick my neck out, particularly with being non-EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Zoinks


    I can understand that worry, I would be the same. I wish they had better justifications (or any?) for the lack of transparency--especially at this juncture. The knowledge of your points breakdown would surely confer no unfair advantage in the competition, and I can't imagine it would take unreasonable effort on their part to tabulate it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 BlowInYank


    It's been 24 hours now so they can't email back saying that they've made a mistake (right??) - I GOT OFF THE RESERVE LIST.

    I GOT THE SCHOLARSHIP!!!!

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Thank you so much all for keeping me sane through this process. Well, relatively. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Zoinks


    BlowInYank wrote: »
    It's been 24 hours now so they can't email back saying that they've made a mistake (right??) - I GOT OFF THE RESERVE LIST.

    I GOT THE SCHOLARSHIP!!!!

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Thank you so much all for keeping me sane through this process. Well, relatively. :cool:

    Well done, what exciting news! :D

    You were probably at the the top of the reserve list as you had a very high score! This might be worth noting for any other hopefuls on the reserve list--it may be that it has only just started moving.


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