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The Rowdy Ronda Rousey Thread

  • 31-01-2018 6:15am
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    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    So she has signed a multi year deal and has pointed out she will be at Mania, what do you expect from the former queen of MMA?

    I'm thinking her & Braun vs Steph & HHH at mania this year to ease her in. She then faces Charlotte at Summerslam, her horsewoman face the WWE horsewoman at Survivor series before she faces the undefeated champion Asuka for the title at next years mania after a Rumble appearance (potential win).

    Ease her in but get a number of dream matches from her at the big shows over the year while using her mostly like Brock (mostly PPV matches as a special attraction while she gets better in ring).
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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    So she has signed a multi year deal and has pointed out she will be at Mania, what do you expect from the former queen of MMA?

    I'm thinking her & Braun vs Steph & HHH at mania this year to ease her in. She then faces Charlotte at Summerslam, her horsewoman face the WWE horsewoman at Survivor series before she faces the undefeated champion Asuka for the title at next years mania after a Rumble appearance (potential win).

    Ease her in but get a number of dream matches from her at the big shows over the year while using her mostly like Brock (mostly PPV matches as a special attraction while she gets better in ring).
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    Hate her music. Hate the gimmick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    not sure if i agree with this statement played apart in making it more womens sports more out there definetly but think we would have got there eventually even without the mma womens being on top

    i think trips having 3 girls doesnt get mentioned a lot as im sure its changed his view somewhat to give his girls more to watch then bra & panties matches

    https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/958557275353841664


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    sky88 wrote:
    not sure if i agree with this statement played apart in making it more womens sports more out there definetly but think we would have got there eventually even without the mma womens being on top


    Funny thing is I expect Rousey's wrestling matches to be 2 minute squashes. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    ERG89 wrote: »
    Funny thing is I expect Rousey's wrestling matches to be 2 minute squashes. :o

    i do too

    honestly think the tag match is the best idea for her to give her more time to train and adjust then have charlotte at summerslam as the main event


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Hate her music. Hate the gimmick.

    She's been in the WWE for 5 minutes. Give her a chance.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,796 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Moved three posts from News to this thread.

    Honestly, I'm fascinated to see what she does. I feel she's a genuine fan who has shown she can have a great work ethic (however you feel about her, she doesn't get to the levels she did in MMA without some sort of great work ethic). If she's motivated, I wouldn't be shocked if she moves towards longer, better matches.

    Her gimmick will be the same as Brock's which suits, cause it will cover her lack of experience. Starting off, she can have a few squashes. I'd hope they'll keep her and Asuka apart for a while though and then have those two have a genuine belter of a match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Moved three posts from News to this thread.

    Honestly, I'm fascinated to see what she does. I feel she's a genuine fan who has shown she can have a great work ethic (however you feel about her, she doesn't get to the levels she did in MMA without some sort of great work ethic). If she's motivated, I wouldn't be shocked if she moves towards longer, better matches.

    Her gimmick will be the same as Brock's which suits, cause it will cover her lack of experience. Starting off, she can have a few squashes. I'd hope they'll keep her and Asuka apart for a while though and then have those two have a genuine belter of a match.

    Her Vs Asuka wrestlemania 35

    Asuka still unbeaten hopefully and Rousey looking strong should be a great event


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    sky88 wrote: »
    i do too

    honestly think the tag match is the best idea for her to give her more time to train and adjust then have charlotte at summerslam as the main event

    Would have been a great setup if Charlotte was still undefeated on PPV's but they didn't think ahead.
    Hopefully she takes feedback from her matches better than she did in UFC who mollycoddled her to the point she is still ranked in the bantamweight division :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I think that Ronda has a genuine love for wrestling will go a long way in her run her and that she isn't just doing it for money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    I think that Ronda has a genuine love for wrestling will go a long way in her run her and that she isn't just doing it for money.

    A friend said she's the second coming of David Arquette, dunno if I'd go to that level but it's not fair on the real women wrestlers busting their gut year in year out so she's going to be very similar to Brock in how she's treated except she probably won't be an exceptional performer like Brock


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,604 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Meltzer was on off the ball talking about this yesterday.


    https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/958832408564027393


    It is really worth a listen, they dicuss everyting from the boost to WWE's tv rights negotiation, UFC previously stopping Mania bout, their now willingness to let her go there as they could have stopped her, possible return in a few years time, her motivation for going there now versus the perception she was going to settle down in a small town, the change from tv twice a year to regular tv and need to be away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Conor McGregor's weighed in too..
    I’m delighted for her, absolutely over the moon for her!” McGregor said. “She looked like she really enjoyed herself at the event and I was very, very happy to see her. She’s a pioneer for the game. She’s came through it all and faced big wins and big, big losses and she came through it and it’s great to see her represent herself and mixed martial arts and have fun in the WWE. I know she’s been a big fan of it all through her life, so it’s great to see that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Do yourself a favour - listen to how Cornette would book Rousey's first year, and then just don't watch her in WWE.

    Because this 18 minute video shows just how easy it would be to get it right.... and just how annoying it will be when they get it wrong!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I do think Stephanie can play a key role in all this. Since the success of the Austin/Vince feud they have tried replicating the top face vs heel authority angle constantly, and it has been less effective as the years go by; but I think this can be one of the times where it can work very well.

    Stephanie is universally hated by the fans, whether they are casuals or die-hards, and everyone knows she rarely if ever gets her comeuppance. If they want Ronda to be a babyface then positioning her against Stephanie seems to me to be the best way to go.

    I do like Cornette's idea of Stephanie talking down to her and patronisingly explaining how things work around here - let's face it, Stephanie can do that promo since she's been burying faces for years with those promos - and all Ronda has to do is cut a promo to the effect of, "you may talk to other people like that but bitch you ain't talking to me like that."

    It really shouldn't be too hard to make it work well in the early stages but it will require Stephanie being willing to do what she hasn't done regularly in about sixteen odd years: put other people over at her own expense.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,604 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    After 16 years is there any desire to see her at all or will people just say no thanks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Stephanie is at best tolerated these days and even then that’s only if she’s been away for a while. I don’t think anyone actively wants to see her regularly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Yeah Stephanie putting over someone besides herself, pigs will fly before that ever happens..


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Even if Steph did but Ronda over she would somehow turn it on how amazing she is for doing so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,451 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rousey is set to recur during Season 3 as Lena a firefighter in 9-1-1

    https://tvline.com/2019/08/15/911-season-3-ronda-rousey-recur-firefighter/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,287 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Rousey is set to recur during Season 3 as Lena a firefighter in 9-1-1

    https://tvline.com/2019/08/15/911-season-3-ronda-rousey-recur-firefighter/

    Not a good start, almost lost her finger in an injury while on set. Don't look if you're squeamish, NSFW...

    https://i.redd.it/bvil5p26ymh31.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,451 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    She is also on the new season of Total Divas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,451 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »

    Don’t think so. Ronda struggled badly being boo’d. She has a lot of issues and I think when the crowd turned on her she didn’t take it well at all.

    That’s the difference between someone dipping their toes in and a professional wrestler. A pro would have loved the crowd reaction and played into it.

    The crowd really got to Ronda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    I think its genuine. The woman is very immatue when it comes to any sort of criticism.

    The way she went on after her loss to Holly Holm said it all about her character and lack of integrity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Rousey does seem sensitive to criticism. I just hope Vince doesn't bite and throw a ridiculous contract at her....then again if it's a choice between her and Nia Jax being in the title picture I'll take the former happily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    So basically Ronda's easily rattled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭mcdaids69


    its a work...shes always does it.she was on gordan ramsey,ramsey was at hers..stevo was on her youtube thing etc...they take her words to serious.she basically is saying wrestlers should be allowed to say wat they want outside in their own homes and not have the talent cant speak to other heels etc..she prob is helping the rosta as shes brillant and contract work etc,,,


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Beckett Scary Hairbrush


    Arguably the greatest heel of them all was her idol. She understands heel work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭mcdaids69


    shes keeping the fourhorse woman possibilty going as far as i can see as the beckys run is running out of people..and becky is working her in always as well.if you watch divas you see it all ....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,672 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I guess the starting a family plan didn't work out for her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    With one tweet Ronda has more people talking about her than every other entertainer within the WWE.


    Ronda just gets pro wrestling better than the majority entertainers within the WWE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,287 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    With one tweet Ronda has more people talking about her than every other entertainer within the WWE.


    Ronda just gets pro wrestling better than the majority entertainers within the WWE.

    Getting heat by saying wrestling is fake seems like the lowest hanging fruit to me. Don't know why people are treating it like a master stroke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭mcdaids69


    she has too many people that are convinced shes a wwe nut 24/7 and will play the heel games they want.shes not shes a UFC star who punchs for real in her spare time!:eek: probaly heat cos of shayna and becky feud,and we saw how lana got treated...some of wwe fans expect heel 24/7..ronda wont lose her name in ufc over some wwe fans.

    edit: im thinking if fourhorse women go ahead they will want ronda as face not heel,shes doing the wwe a favour by looks of it as well


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Beckett Scary Hairbrush


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Getting heat by saying wrestling is fake seems like the lowest hanging fruit to me. Don't know why people are treating it like a master stroke.
    It doesn't mean that she intentionally went out to draw heat with the wrestling is fake talk. She could have, and I assume was, just giving her honest opinion. Lesnar has said the same in the past.


    Wrestling fans seem to have this odd notion that they've somehow rattled her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Getting heat by saying wrestling is fake seems like the lowest hanging fruit to me. Don't know why people are treating it like a master stroke.



    Vinny Mc has been doing that from the day he said it was predetermined on RAW and called it Entertainment.

    The Ronda that left after a year in the WWE was better than 90% of wrestlers on that roster as an all rounder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,287 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Vinny Mc has been doing that from the day he said it was predetermined on RAW and called it Entertainment.

    The Ronda that left after a year in the WWE was better than 90% of wrestlers on that roster as an all rounder.

    There's a difference between Vince dancing around it and calling it entertainment and Ronda saying "Lol it's fake, marks".

    I wouldn't say she was an all rounder either. In the ring she outshone almost everyone because she was so fast and powerful but she was rattled every time she had to do a promo in front of a crowd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭mcdaids69


    i remember talks about heyman becoming her manager over her stage/promos..if he did what would raw be?his changes even tho show are working.ronda is making more now cos she stuck to her guns and probaly said she didnt need help from heyman,as said earlier her youtube vids are making huge numbers,dana always said she knew her stuff wen it came to background stuff.and as from earlier about her having kids,she has two step kids already,she is starting her family.shes open to more kids is what was more less said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,732 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I don't know the answer to this but maybe someone else does. Was there any talk of her coming back to WWE in the short to medium term ? Okay she's said it's a work but it's a bad work IMO as if she isn't coming back soon or full time as she said then what was the point of it ? I mean brock lesnar(who's taken a similar path to ronda) has it down to an art. He isn't full time and isn't on twitter at all and doesn't talk much and yet any time he's appeared on WWE TV I’ve wanted to watch him.

    Her basically quoting hogans tweet about working the marks which wouldn’t be who I’d quote to clarify a point.

    Also, I know we can’t know this given he’s dead but I wonder how rowdy piper who she got his blessing to use his gimmick and jacket would feel about ronda calling something he was very good at fake ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    J. Marston wrote: »
    There's a difference between Vince dancing around it and calling it entertainment and Ronda saying "Lol it's fake, marks".

    I wouldn't say she was an all rounder either. In the ring she outshone almost everyone because she was so fast and powerful but she was rattled every time she had to do a promo in front of a crowd.

    The Queen the golden girl the second generation superstar gets rattled in the ring and hurts people when the set routines she knows get knocked off course that is a lot more dangerous than Ronda freezing with a live promo.

    Ronda is a hell of a lot more entertaining than 99% of that roster and even her tweets winding up fans are brilliant Ronda is money and she knows it now people will pay to see her lose on her big comeback.


    I should add I don't like Ronda the person however Ronda the pro wrestler is awesome.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Beckett Scary Hairbrush


    She's off James E. Cornette's Christmas list haha.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,732 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    She's off James E. Cornette's Christmas list haha.

    Oh **** it's Mondays so there's a new drive thru out today. I completely forgot. So corny didn't see the funny side then ? I'll have to go listen now.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Beckett Scary Hairbrush


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Oh **** it's Mondays so there's a new drive thru out today. I completely forgot. So corny didn't see the funny side then ? I'll have to go listen now.

    His "arsehole bleeds for her" haha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭mcdaids69


    its clearly a work for shana after raw tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    She's off James E. Cornette's Christmas list haha.

    Well Jimmy summed it up, it's the wrong and unwanted type of heat but one or two in here will tell you there's no such thing as bad or go away heat these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,451 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/04/ronda-rousey-on-who-she-wants-to-face-in-wwe-possible-wwe-return/

    One person that I’m capable of doing the most with is Nia [Jax] because she’s really really strong. I don’t have to worry about hurting her. I feel like I’ve had some great matches with her. My first singles was with her. We’ve also gone through that storyline already. We’ve done all that we could. I really like having someone really strong that I can work with that I can use as a base but can also base of me. I would really love to work with Rhea Ripley.

    “Whenever I work with somebody, I think, what is it that I could do only with them and they can do only with me. I think of one thing that we can do that is entirely unique in our match that only we can do, which there’s a lot of things I can think of for me and Rhea. Bianca [Belair] too, honestly. They’re both really really strong chicks that I feel like I can lift as well. I think I have the most options with them, and I’m just so glad that there’s some new faces and blood coming into the division as well.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    It's great that Bianca and Rhea are on top now but I look at all the potential challengers and I can't help but be indifferent. Ronda hounding for a feud with Nia Jax sums up the problem in the division; so many stars lost in the shuffle while the most bland of people are positioned front and centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,451 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Ronda never mentions Becky who she should have a one on one match with so perhaps jealous of how over Becky was


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Vince will ban his talent from getting pregnant. It's bad for business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,451 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




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