Off Topic Thread 4.0

Zzippy

troyzer wrote: »

I'm not particularly desperate to get onto the ladder. I'm desperate for the opportunity to decide whether or not I want to get onto the ladder.

I work in a specialist industry which is very small in Ireland and most of my career to date has been overseas. I'm back in the country at the moment but I'll probably have to move on again at some point. So buying a house isn't a priority for me at the moment.

The reason why I'm frustrated is because there's no actual pathway to getting there. The few people I do know my age who are buying are almost exclusively getting help from their parents.

But if developers are only building high-priced high-profit developments that mean you can't afford to buy, that's not the fault of any NIMBYs. That's down to government and developers greed. And the banks making it hard for developers to get credit, so they are incentivised to go for the big money, rather than mid-priced housing which is needed. And if the secondhand property market is gone so overpriced that you can't afford to buy, that's not the fault of any NIMBYs. That's down to the crash and subsequent death of the construction industry. Blaming people already in houses is exactly what the government want - anything that takes the focus off their complete failure to stimulate proper mixed housing development.

troyzer

Zzippy wrote: »

But if developers are only building high-priced high-profit developments that mean you can't afford to buy, that's not the fault of any NIMBYs. That's down to government and developers greed. And the banks making it hard for developers to get credit, so they are incentivised to go for the big money, rather than mid-priced housing which is needed. And if the secondhand property market is gone so overpriced that you can't afford to buy, that's not the fault of any NIMBYs. That's down to the crash and subsequent death of the construction industry. Blaming people already in houses is exactly what the government want - anything that takes the focus off their complete failure to stimulate proper mixed housing development.

It's all part of the same problem. That development due to go up near my girlfriend's house wasn't crazy money. I think the two beds were going for €300k which is definitely reachable.

NIMBYs shot that one down. While a lot of this is due to the government, it's hard to imagine what exactly they could do to fix this.

Zzippy

troyzer wrote: »

It's all part of the same problem. That development due to go up near my girlfriend's house wasn't crazy money. I think the two beds were going for €300k which is definitely reachable.

NIMBYs shot that one down. While a lot of this is due to the government, it's hard to imagine what exactly they could do to fix this.

Would you consider cheaper suburbs? I see 3 bed houses in Swords going for about the same money. 2 beds are less and definitely reachable if that's your range. Part of the problem is people refusing to consider other areas to live, many for understandable reasons but a lot just want to have a better postcode.

stephen_n

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Renting isn't even feasible any more in most cases. I was viewing apartments a short while ago, and anything within 5-7km of town is generally 1400+ for a two bed apartment, and that's only the listing price. You also show up to the viewing with about 80 other people.

I'm regularly seeing rooms listed for 1000 euro for a double room in an apartment. And that's in the likes of East Wall, Raheny, Artane etc.

Or 450 euro to share a room. With 6-8 people living in a two bed apartment.

The north side must be bringing the average down then. I do window displays for a Lettings company on a weekly basis, there isn’t a two bed this side of city west for less than 1700. You’d be lucky to get a 1 bed for 1400 at this stage. Two beds around Ranelagh or Miltown would be anywhere betwee 2000 and 3000. I have no idea how anyone can afford that rent.

stephen_n

stephen_n wrote: »

The north side must be bringing the average down then. I do window displays for a Lettings company on a weekly basis, there isn’t a two bed this side of city west for less than 1700. You’d be lucky to get a 1 bed for 1400 at this stage. Two beds around Ranelagh or Miltown would be anywhere betwee 2000 and 3000. I have no idea how anyone can afford that rent.

The houses in my estate (Dublin 18) are currently renting for upto 2750+ per month. I bought a good while ago now, but in 2009 they were averaging around 1200.

It's obscene and unsustainable, the market is correcting a tiny bit the last 8 months but there is no value in it at all.

The Clay farm development was disgusting. It was granted swift planning on the basis of being affordable. The prices were not affordable at all and the second phases prices rose 8%. I shudder to think what they'll be charging for the apartments that are being built.

DGRulz

Lads, I'd no idea so many of you were fellow Northsiders. :P

Zzippy

DGRulz wrote: »

Lads, I'd no idea so many of you were fellow Northsiders. :P

North county, but I'm longer living in the sticks than I was in Dublin at this stage. Jesus, we were even called culchies coming from Swords to go to school in town...

Squidgy Black

Zzippy wrote: »

North county, but I'm longer living in the sticks than I was in Dublin at this stage. Jesus, we were even called culchies coming from Swords to go to school in town...

I mean...... they're not wrong? :P

troyzer

Zzippy wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

It's all part of the same problem. That development due to go up near my girlfriend's house wasn't crazy money. I think the two beds were going for €300k which is definitely reachable.

NIMBYs shot that one down. While a lot of this is due to the government, it's hard to imagine what exactly they could do to fix this.

Would you consider cheaper suburbs? I see 3 bed houses in Swords going for about the same money. 2 beds are less and definitely reachable if that's your range. Part of the problem is people refusing to consider other areas to live, many for understandable reasons but a lot just want to have a better postcode.

I have no problem moving to a different place but Swords would at least double and possibly triple my commute time.

And again, pushing people further and further out isn't a solution. It's also hard to take that advice from people who live right beside the city centre. I'm not suggesting you are but my old boss lived in Ringsend and told me to consider moving out to Newbridge with a straight face.

Zzippy

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I mean...... they're not wrong? :P

Ah yeah, sure I had to milk the cows in the morning before I walked barefoot to the bus stop for the school bus with a sod of turf for the classroom fire... begorrah!

Squidgy Black

Deleted User wrote: »

The houses in my estate (Dublin 18) are currently renting for upto 2750+ per month. I bought a good while ago now, but in 2009 they were averaging around 1200.

It's obscene and unsustainable, the market is correcting a tiny bit the last 8 months but there is no value in it at all.

The Clay farm development was disgusting. It was granted swift planning on the basis of being affordable. The prices were not affordable at all and the second phases prices rose 8%. I shudder to think what they'll be charging for the apartments that are being built.

One of the lads I used to work with was moving house and came across his old lease, for a 1 bed on Pembroke Street about 6 years ago when he first came to Dublin. Was paying 1000 quid, which at the time was a fair chunk before Google etc opened their offices there.

Same apartment is now 2700.

There's a REALLY old block of apartments on the howth road called Venetian Hall in Killester, the apartments are more akin to really sh1tty motel rooms. About 8 years ago you could rent a two bed there for around 900 euro, the same apartments are 1800 now and haven't been updated in the last 20 years.

Zzippy

troyzer wrote: »

I have no problem moving to a different place but Swords would at least double and possibly triple my commute time.

And again, pushing people further and further out isn't a solution. It's also hard to take that advice from people who live right beside the city centre. I'm not suggesting you are but my old boss lived in Ringsend and told me to consider moving out to Newbridge with a straight face.

I live in Galway mate, but I grew up in Swords, so I'm aware of the commute time to anywhere else in Dublin. TBH and despite the notorious Galway traffic, I don't envy anyone in Dublin their commute, but there is a trade-off between commute times, cost of living, convenience etc. If you want a short commute you're going to pay more, realistically.

troyzer

Zzippy wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

I have no problem moving to a different place but Swords would at least double and possibly triple my commute time.

And again, pushing people further and further out isn't a solution. It's also hard to take that advice from people who live right beside the city centre. I'm not suggesting you are but my old boss lived in Ringsend and told me to consider moving out to Newbridge with a straight face.

I live in Galway mate, but I grew up in Swords, so I'm aware of the commute time to anywhere else in Dublin. TBH and despite the notorious Galway traffic, I don't envy anyone in Dublin their commute, but there is a trade-off between commute times, cost of living, convenience etc. If you want a short commute you're going to pay more, realistically.

But that's the point.

I'm currently on a civil service contract and realistically my salary only allows a place like Swords.

My previous boss had the same job thirty years ago and bought a three bed house in Ringsend on a single salary.

There is a fundamental unfairness in that. There is a reason why millennials like myself keep bellyaching.

irishbucsfan

troyzer wrote: »

But that's the point.

I'm currently on a civil service contract and realistically my salary only allows a place like Swords.

My previous boss had the same job thirty years ago and bought a three bed house in Ringsend on a single salary.

There is a fundamental unfairness in that. There is a reason why millennials like myself keep bellyaching.

It’s a complete and utter waste of time comparing people across generations

troyzer

irishbucsfan wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

But that's the point.

I'm currently on a civil service contract and realistically my salary only allows a place like Swords.

My previous boss had the same job thirty years ago and bought a three bed house in Ringsend on a single salary.

There is a fundamental unfairness in that. There is a reason why millennials like myself keep bellyaching.

It’s a complete and utter waste of time comparing people across generations

Tell that to the older generations who like to **** on us saying we don't work hard, are too distracted by social media and are snowflakes.

Zzippy

troyzer wrote: »

Tell that to the older generations who like to **** on us saying we don't work hard, are too distracted by social media and are snowflakes.

Hard work? You don't know what hard work is!

troyzer

Zzippy wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Tell that to the older generations who like to **** on us saying we don't work hard, are too distracted by social media and are snowflakes.

Hard work? You don't know what hard work is!

How could I? I'm a vegetarian and apparently you can't be a hard worker if you don't finish the day with a beef AND mutton stew.

Stheno

The commute from Swords to the city centre is actually fine if you use Swords Express

Its about 40 minutes each way for me, sometimes less

I have never, not even during the Celtic tiger, experienced a January this busy.

sydthebeat

Deleted User wrote: »

I have never, not even during the Celtic tiger, experienced a January this busy.

can we assume you working in a business of something like company registration?

troyzer

sydthebeat wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

I have never, not even during the Celtic tiger, experienced a January this busy.

can we assume you working in a business of something like company registration?

Penis enlargement.

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

can we assume you working in a business of something like company registration?

Penis enlargement actually.

troyzer

Deleted User wrote: »

Penis enlargement actually.

Brings a whole different meaning to the phrase "New year, new me".

sydthebeat

Deleted User wrote: »

Penis enlargement actually.

boards.ie discounts yeah???

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

boards.ie discounts yeah???

I'll give you the same two for one offer I gave Troyzer. He seems delighted with his two inches!

troyzer

Deleted User wrote: »

I'll give you the same two for one offer I gave Troyzer. He seems delighted with his two inches!

troyzer

troyzer wrote: »

Having no comeback is the least of your worries babydick!

Reminds me of this scene from Parks and Rec. I never watched the show but to be fair Chris Pratt is a very witty individual as evident from this improved line:

Zzippy

sydthebeat wrote: »

boards.ie discounts yeah???

Only for Leinster fans. No market for it anywhere else...

stephen_n

Zzippy wrote: »

Only for Leinster fans. No market for it anywhere else...

Are the whesties waiting for it to come on the medical card?

Enough big dicks down south as it is.