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UK Presidents Club closes amid reports of sexual harassment

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    I was like "The UK has a president now?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Filthy feckers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    the Children’s Minister in Uk is in a spot of bother over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,490 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Hope it brings an end to the ladies night charity events as worse happens

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Anyone asked about it including the speaker David Walliams and The Childrens Minster(who has attended for years now) seem to say they went but did not stay for any length of time so did not know what it was.

    This tweet about it made me laugh,

    The Presidents Club has shut down? Huge gap in the market there for anyone who wants to set up a £1660 a ticket dinner at which all the guests leave the second they arrive because they honestly had no idea what it was about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    Anyone who was groping was well out of order. But i think the whole outraged reaction to the event is typically over the top. Any man who was even there is getting it in the neck. The aim among some will be to put an end to any men only events. Women of course can continue to have whatever women only events they please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭milehip


    Hope it brings an end to the ladies night charity events as worse happens

    How much worse? And where do these nights be held?

    Asking for a friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 fawltyBas


    Drunk toffs and businessmen grope women, makes a change from pigs (ask David Cameron)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    milehip wrote: »
    How much worse? And where do these nights be held?

    Asking for a friend.

    Id also like to know,



    for a friend....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Madison Marriage?

    It's all a computer generation i tells ya


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    "The worst I was told by one of the hostesses was a man taking his penis out during the course of the dinner"

    So this is a crime now?

    The worlds gone waaaaaay too PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Currys/PC World gone mad that you can't have an ol' grope of a woman these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,110 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Sounds like very un-Presidential behavior............ oh but wait!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Your Face wrote: »
    "The worst I was told by one of the hostesses was a man taking his penis out during the course of the dinner"

    Twink would have put him straight ...
    Zip zip zip up your Mickey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    The agenda with the reporting seems to be to make a point that it was a men only event but the stories are dressed up as the entire event was a sexual harassment lawsuit. So many weak, pathetic people getting outraged for the sake of being outraged; but what makes this great is that nothing will come from their crying due to the collective power of the individuals who were attending this event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    The agenda with the reporting seems to be to make a point that it was a men only event but the stories are dressed up as the entire event was a sexual harassment lawsuit. So many weak, pathetic people getting outraged for the sake of being outraged; but what makes this great is that nothing will come from their crying due to the collective power of the individuals who were attending this event.

    What “makes this great” to use your words is that money or power is no longer enough to silence the truth.


  • Posts: 21,679 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The agenda with the reporting seems to be to make a point that it was a men only event but the stories are dressed up as the entire event was a sexual harassment lawsuit. So many weak, pathetic people getting outraged for the sake of being outraged; but what makes this great is that nothing will come from their crying due to the collective power of the individuals who were attending this event.

    Groping people is not ok and neither is whipping out your penis or vagina or breast over dinner or anywhere that it's done to intimidate.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Even though the story was about men groping waiting staff and getting their privates out during dinner at a men-only event, I knew it was the feminists fault all along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    So many weak, pathetic people getting outraged for the sake of being outraged

    You seem outraged at people's 'outrage for the sake of being outraged'....

    on the internet...

    Sure God love ye.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You seem outraged at people's 'outrage for the sake of being outraged'....

    on the internet...

    Sure God love ye.

    Don't confuse him for a weak, pathethic person for being outraged at the outrage though, because he's a badass.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭milehip


    Your Face wrote: »
    "The worst I was told by one of the hostesses was a man taking his penis out during the course of the dinner"

    So this is a crime now?

    The worlds gone waaaaaay too PC.

    Crime now? pretty sure getting your dick out has been a crime for some time.

    Honestly who wants to see that during dinner?
    That cost you a grand, Money can't buy you class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Your Face wrote: »
    "The worst I was told by one of the hostesses was a man taking his penis out during the course of the dinner"

    So this is a crime now?

    The worlds gone waaaaaay too PC.

    Why would anyone do this? It's bad enough for the staff just trying to do their job but your fellow guests eating their nosh and some yoke whips his lad out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I think that poster is taking the mick(penis)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Well I for one am shocked at this. Didn't possibly think rich men would do such a thing. Or that beautiful women would dress up to surround themselves with rich men to make them spend more money.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well I for one am shocked at this. Didn't possibly think rich men would do such a thing. Or that beautiful women would dress up to surround themselves with rich men to make them spend more money.

    Don't be shocked, because that didn't happen.

    They groped the waitresses who were just there working their jobs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Candie wrote: »
    Well I for one am shocked at this. Didn't possibly think rich men would do such a thing. Or that beautiful women would dress up to surround themselves with rich men to make them spend more money.

    Don't be shocked, because that didn't happen.

    They groped the waitresses who were just there working their jobs.
    That exactly what happened. That is what happens in these sleazy clubs and meetings with the biggest winners of capitalism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Bambi985


    but what makes this great is that nothing will come from their crying due to the collective power of the individuals who were attending this event.

    Ah yes, long live the right of fat rich men to grope, assault and get their dicks out in front of young women making 15 quid an hour who’ve been silenced by an NDA and have been lined up like lambs to the slaughter for them. Rejoice! What a treat you are.


  • Site Banned Posts: 406 ✭✭Pepefrogok


    Any proof of this happening? No cctv or camera phones? No eye witnesses?


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That exactly what happened. That is what happens in these sleazy clubs and meetings with the biggest winners of capitalism.

    There were no women guests. It was a men only event. Some of the men groped the waitresses, who were not dressed up to try to get men to spend money on them, but serving food. As waitresses do when they're at work.

    I've italicized the pertinent points to aid your comprehension.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 406 ✭✭Pepefrogok


    Bambi985 wrote: »
    Ah yes, long live the right of fat rich men to grope, assault and get their dicks out in front of young women making 15 quid an hour who’ve been silenced by an NDA and have been lined up like lambs to the slaughter for them. Rejoice! What a treat you are.

    Lol an none disclose agreement for rape? Get out of it!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Candie wrote: »
    That exactly what happened. That is what happens in these sleazy clubs and meetings with the biggest winners of capitalism.

    There were no women guests. It was a men only event. Some of the men groped the waitresses, who were not dressed up to try to get men to spend money on them, but serving food. As waitresses do when they're at work.

    I've italicized the pertinent points to aid your comprehension.
    I have spoken to a hostess that is exactly what they are supposed to do. Look great and get more money out of these sleazy millionaires to drink more and hence spend more money. This wasn't a restaurant meeting, this was a sleazy gathering of the wealthiest in London society with beautiful hostess. Call me shocked that millionaires with low morals did what they did in that environment. The shock just sounds a bit faux.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Watched a report tonight that described the women at the event as hostesses. Part of the job description was to dress seductively, alarm bells started ringing loudly for me right there.
    Outfit should be "skimpy black outfits with matching underwear and high heels". Think I'll pass on this opportunity. Cheers for the offer though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    It’s sleaze. And worse than sleaze, it’s in the name of charity.

    This is a change the world needs. Long overdue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Bambi985


    I have spoken to a hostess that is exactly what they are supposed to do. Look great and get more money out of these sleazy millionaires to drink more and hence spend more money

    And get a hand up the skirt and on the arse and forced onto laps and penises flashed at you and asked if you're a prostitute by 70 year old men?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Penises should only be taken out after the sorbet at a dinner party


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Bigtoe107


    I think a system which allows for such an accumulation of wealth in the hands of a small number of people is bound to lead to events like this.

    The gender issue is kind of a side show really. It’s much more significant that it was a wealthy persons event than a men only event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Bambi985 wrote: »
    And get a hand up the skirt and on the arse and forced onto laps and penises flashed at you and asked if you're a prostitute by 70 year old men?

    Works both ways though??? Don't sexualize yourself and be shocked when a 70 something (ageist) gets excited?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Bambi985


    Works both ways though??? Don't sexualize yourself and be shocked when a 70 something (ageist) gets excited?

    Accepting a hostessing role for any reason or "sexualising" yourself in any way does not equal acquiescing to groping and harassment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Bambi985 wrote: »
    Accepting a hostessing role for any reason or "sexualising" yourself in any way does not equal acquiescing to groping and harassment.

    Given the job description I don't think it was a massive leap. Doesn't make it right of course, but wouldn't be a massive shock all the same.
    There's equal roles at play here don't you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Works both ways though??? Don't sexualize yourself and be shocked when a 70 something (ageist) gets excited?

    This is exactly, and I mean exactly, like saying "she was asking for it".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    This is exactly, and I mean exactly, like saying "she was asking for it".

    Me arse! Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Me arse! Why?

    It very much reads like wear sexy clothes, don't be surprised when you're groped.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    it sounds like a UK version of the Bohemian Grove


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    It very much reads like wear sexy clothes, don't be surprised when you're groped.

    Call me crazy but would you even have been slightly dubious with that criteria?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Call me crazy but would you even have been slightly dubious with that criteria?

    Sexual assault isn't in the job description, I'm guessing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,726 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Candie wrote:
    Even though the story was about men groping waiting staff and getting their privates out during dinner at a men-only event, I knew it was the feminists fault all along.

    Even when it was a few men at the event, I knew it was the feminists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Sexual assault isn't in the job description, I'm guessing.

    I'm a victim of sexual assault by a person who had a position of authority and opportunity over me. Excuse me if don't break down in tears over a (****ty as it is) a so called gentleman's club.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Bambi985


    Regardless of the job description (which doesn't mention actual groping and molestation) sexual harassment is a criminal offence and it's not unreasonable to assume as a contracting worker you'd have a few, I dunno, human rights protected by your employer whilst on the job. Even strippers and table dancers are protected from being touched by punters, if we're going to go the route of blaming the women for their attire or signing up for a "risky" job or whatever it is you're alluding to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,726 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'm a victim of sexual assault by a person who had a position of authority and opportunity over me. Excuse me if don't break down in tears over a (****ty as it is) a so called gentleman's club.

    No offense, but just because this cperience of sexual assault isn't as traumatic as your personal experience, doesn't men this isn't sexual assault.

    One might think that someone whom has been thought a similar experiences would be predisposed to empathise but I reality you're showing the opposite also happens. 'If their experience isn't as traumatic as mine then they're wringing about nothing'.

    Looking at this objectively, ita clear to see that whacking your dick out to people is out of order


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Bambi985 wrote: »
    I have spoken to a hostess that is exactly what they are supposed to do. Look great and get more money out of these sleazy millionaires to drink more and hence spend more money

    And get a hand up the skirt and on the arse and forced onto laps and penises flashed at you and asked if you're a prostitute by 70 year old men?
    What do you expect with such an event? Do people seriously not know what goes on in the real world with these people? I'd be shocked if it didn't happen.


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