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New ferry service from Ringaskiddy to Spain

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    If you want to challenge the logic of taking a car to the continent, go right ahead but that isn't really the point. If people wish to bring their cars (as the growing number of ferries suggest many do) then its actually just about which one to take.

    As for wine, you can offset a substantial part of your travel costs by buying a quantity in France or Spain.

    what " growing number " of ferries ?

    this is predominantly a freight orientated service

    I think two new ships serving Ireland to France qualifies as "growing".


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    First Up wrote: »
    I think two new ships serving Ireland to France qualifies as "growing".

    if you look at the combined ferry services, out of this country , there has been little growth and in fact we lost a major ferry service some years ago.

    Car based holidays are not a growth area and less likely in the future

    This service will largely be freight orientated as there are good reasons for trucks to use it


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    I think two new ships serving Ireland to France qualifies as "growing".

    if you look at the combined ferry services, out of this country , there has been little growth and in fact we lost a major ferry service some years ago.

    Car based holidays are not a growth area and less likely in the future

    This service will largely be freight orientated as there are good reasons for trucks to use it
    If you look a bit more closely you will see that Irish Ferries just spent €144 million on a new ship that will carry 1,200 cars from Dublin to Cherbourg three times a week this summer. Thats in addition to the Oscar Wilde from Rosslare which has been close to capacity the many times I've used it (unless I was using the equally busy Pont Aven from Cork to Roscoff.)

    And a good few cars squeeze onto the Stena Horizon and the IF Epsilon too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    First Up wrote: »
    If you look a bit more closely you will see that Irish Ferries just spent €144 million on a new ship that will carry 1,200 cars from Dublin to Cherbourg three times a week this summer. Thats in addition to the Oscar Wilde from Rosslare which has been close to capacity the many times I've used it (unless I was using the equally busy Pont Aven from Cork to Roscoff.)

    And a good few cars squeeze onto the Stena Horizon and the IF Epsilon too.

    I know the WB Yeats is scheduled to supplement the french route , but I understood thats only for the 2018 Summer , its primarily designed for the UK traffic

    mind you Brexit may divert that


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Gorgeousgeorge


    My brother and i will be foot passengers on this route when it opens. Get off and spend 3 or 4 days walking about. Cant wait


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    If you look a bit more closely you will see that Irish Ferries just spent €144 million on a new ship that will carry 1,200 cars from Dublin to Cherbourg three times a week this summer. Thats in addition to the Oscar Wilde from Rosslare which has been close to capacity the many times I've used it (unless I was using the equally busy Pont Aven from Cork to Roscoff.)

    And a good few cars squeeze onto the Stena Horizon and the IF Epsilon too.

    I know the WB Yeats is scheduled to supplement the french route , but I understood thats only for the 2018 Summer , its primarily designed for the UK traffic

    mind you Brexit may divert that
    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    If you look a bit more closely you will see that Irish Ferries just spent €144 million on a new ship that will carry 1,200 cars from Dublin to Cherbourg three times a week this summer. Thats in addition to the Oscar Wilde from Rosslare which has been close to capacity the many times I've used it (unless I was using the equally busy Pont Aven from Cork to Roscoff.)

    And a good few cars squeeze onto the Stena Horizon and the IF Epsilon too.

    I know the WB Yeats is scheduled to supplement the french route , but I understood thats only for the 2018 Summer , its primarily designed for the UK traffic

    mind you Brexit may divert that
    So do you want to revise your comment about car based holidays being on the way out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    If you look a bit more closely you will see that Irish Ferries just spent €144 million on a new ship that will carry 1,200 cars from Dublin to Cherbourg three times a week this summer. Thats in addition to the Oscar Wilde from Rosslare which has been close to capacity the many times I've used it (unless I was using the equally busy Pont Aven from Cork to Roscoff.)

    And a good few cars squeeze onto the Stena Horizon and the IF Epsilon too.

    I know the WB Yeats is scheduled to supplement the french route , but I understood thats only for the 2018 Summer , its primarily designed for the UK traffic

    mind you Brexit may divert that
    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    If you look a bit more closely you will see that Irish Ferries just spent €144 million on a new ship that will carry 1,200 cars from Dublin to Cherbourg three times a week this summer. Thats in addition to the Oscar Wilde from Rosslare which has been close to capacity the many times I've used it (unless I was using the equally busy Pont Aven from Cork to Roscoff.)

    And a good few cars squeeze onto the Stena Horizon and the IF Epsilon too.

    I know the WB Yeats is scheduled to supplement the french route , but I understood thats only for the 2018 Summer , its primarily designed for the UK traffic

    mind you Brexit may divert that
    So do you want to revise your comment about car based holidays being on the way out?

    Have you tried booking yet? I thought I read somewhere that only car passengers will be allowed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    If you look a bit more closely you will see that Irish Ferries just spent €144 million on a new ship that will carry 1,200 cars from Dublin to Cherbourg three times a week this summer. Thats in addition to the Oscar Wilde from Rosslare which has been close to capacity the many times I've used it (unless I was using the equally busy Pont Aven from Cork to Roscoff.)

    And a good few cars squeeze onto the Stena Horizon and the IF Epsilon too.

    I know the WB Yeats is scheduled to supplement the french route , but I understood thats only for the 2018 Summer , its primarily designed for the UK traffic

    mind you Brexit may divert that
    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    If you look a bit more closely you will see that Irish Ferries just spent €144 million on a new ship that will carry 1,200 cars from Dublin to Cherbourg three times a week this summer. Thats in addition to the Oscar Wilde from Rosslare which has been close to capacity the many times I've used it (unless I was using the equally busy Pont Aven from Cork to Roscoff.)

    And a good few cars squeeze onto the Stena Horizon and the IF Epsilon too.

    I know the WB Yeats is scheduled to supplement the french route , but I understood thats only for the 2018 Summer , its primarily designed for the UK traffic

    mind you Brexit may divert that
    So do you want to revise your comment about car based holidays being on the way out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    My brother and i will be foot passengers on this route when it opens. Get off and spend 3 or 4 days walking about. Cant wait
    Have you tried booking yet? I thought I read somewhere that only car passengers are allowed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Sorry if some of these posts look weird. Doing them on the phone and the app is playing up


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Gorgeousgeorge


    First Up wrote: »
    Have you tried booking yet? I thought I read somewhere that only car passengers are allowed.

    Nope not yet its not open for booking until april i think.

    Plenty of ways around that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    First Up wrote: »
    So do you want to revise your comment about car based holidays being on the way out?

    not at all, rising fuel costs have dammed it to extinction, it takes no sense, It was not a feature of 19th century travel nor will it be a feature of later 21th century travel either IMHO


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    BoatMad wrote: »
    First Up wrote: »
    So do you want to revise your comment about car based holidays being on the way out?

    not at all, rising fuel costs have dammed it to extinction, it takes no sense, It was not a feature of 19th century travel nor will it be a feature of later 21th century travel either IMHO

    Fascinating. So are other forms of transport immune to rising fuel costs?

    How is the development of hybrid commercial aircraft coming along?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,835 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    First Up wrote: »
    Sorry if some of these posts look weird. Doing them on the phone and the app is playing up

    What's your excuse for the rest of them?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,158 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    What's your excuse for the rest of them?

    Fair play, it only took twelve days to come up with that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    First Up wrote: »
    Sorry if some of these posts look weird. Doing them on the phone and the app is playing up

    What's your excuse for the rest of them?
    Hah hah.

    I'll take my chances.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,835 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Fair play, it only took twelve days to come up with that.

    The man who made time, made loads of it.

    But not enough to take that ferry.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Fair play, it only took twelve days to come up with that.

    The man who made time, made loads of it.

    But not enough to take that ferry.

    I've not ruled it out. Its a lot of time on a not great ship but there's a bit to be said for a lot less driving.

    If I was heading to southern France or north east Spain I'd give it very serious consideration. I'll be going to the Valencia - Alicante region later in the year and I'll certainly think about this route but its hard to compete with the cheap flights and convenience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,835 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    First Up wrote: »
    I've not ruled it out. Its a lot of time on a not great ship but there's a bit to be said for a lot less driving.

    If I was heading to southern France or north east Spain I'd give it very serious consideration. I'll be going to the Valencia - Alicante region later in the year and I'll certainly think about this route but its hard to compete with the cheap flights and convenience.

    It's another option but not likely to appeal to the vast majority.

    I can see it being advantageous to the small time Irish shellfish co-op member
    or even being a lifeline to some small independent trawlers.

    It's a badly needed service, long may it last.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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