Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

All Seeing Eye

MFPM wrote: »

'Some' of them - not all of them, then? What about the rest?

I asked for instances but you haven't given any?

What 'mosque' do they attend?




Again you shift the goal posts - you stated in our original message that 'they treat their women' now it's 'their' religion - so is it some people you know or all?

There is a mosque in Balbriggan look it up on the internet. The religion treats women like crap and the men who practice the religion use it as a reason to treat women like crap. You know it and I know it. Your silence on the matter says it all.

MFPM

Omackeral wrote: »

I asked you a question. Not a big deal. You're very defensive.



True. The conversation moved on though and people were talking about outside cultures coming into places. The discussion evolved.




Ha ha ha. You are some baby! I'd say I've 20 times more posts about fighting for the 8th to be Repealed on behalf of sisters, mothers and daughters in this country. Don't mention them though. Sad attempt to discredit someone. Big crime that I posted a picture of a good looking woman in a thread named "hottest women in the world" by the way. Finding women attractive is now a bad thing is if? There's also a men version of the thread too which I posted in. I must hate men too, or is it love them? Your logic is hard to grasp. Good god almighty.

It wasn't an attempt to discredit you - I was illustrating the hypocrisy in your post.

MFPM

MFPM wrote: »

Again you shift the goal posts

That's rich! You must try to shift the whole stadium in that case!

MFPM

MFPM wrote: »

It wasn't an attempt to discredit you - I was illustrating the hypocrisy in your post.

Finding someone attractive means you don't care about women? Ok!

You also disregarded every other solitary point I made in that reply to you. You accuse others of moving goal posts but you just cherry pick and do hit and run style posts. It's far from an honest debating style. You've also a serious attitudinal chip on your shoulder IMO

MFPM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

There is a mosque in Balbriggan look it up on the internet. The religion treats women like crap and the men who practice the religion use it as a reason to treat women like crap. You know it and I know it. Your silence on the matter says it all.

Still no instances?

The religion treats women like crap

Firstly 'religion' is a set of beliefs - 'religion' doesn't oppress - the people who interpret and use religion do the oppression. All religions are historically patricarchal so women in the main are and have been treated absymially.

men who practice the religion use it as a reason to treat women like crap.

Yes some 'men' do use religion to treat women crap - it's hard to escape that fact given recent Irish history.

Your silence on the matter says it all.

My 'silence' - what on earth are you babling about?

MFPM

Omackeral wrote: »

Finding someone attractive means you don't care about women? Ok!

No, but objectifying women is hardly appropriate. Tell you what ask the women in your local Together for Yes group their opinion on the matter.

MFPM

Omackeral wrote: »

Finding someone attractive means you don't care about women? Ok!

You also disregarded every other solitary point I made in that reply to you. You accuse others of moving goal posts but you just cherry pick and do hit and run style posts. It's far from an honest debating style. You've also a serious attitudinal chip on your shoulder IMO

You didn't make any points. You clearly misunderstand what is meant by 'shifting the goal posts' .

MFPM

MFPM wrote: »

No, but objectifying women is hardly appropriate. Tell you what ask the women in your local Together for Yes group their opinion on the matter.

What are YOU babbling on about?! The thread is specifically for posting pictures of beautiful women. There's a men's one too. I've posted in both threads. Am I objectifying men too? I'm such an equalist pig!!!

MFPM

MFPM wrote: »

You didn't make any points.

Except I did and you're being obtuse. Points I made were

-I've posted on the men and women thread, ergo equalist.
-Its ok to find people attractive regardless
-My voting to repeal for women shows actual concern.

Seems the debate is being dragged further away from the topic, I'm sure that was never the intention :pac:

TeaBagMania

Billy Mays wrote: »

Duh

MFPM wrote: »

Sometimes there are no words!! :eek: You'd have thought he'd at least check!

LOL and both of you are as gullible as i thought you'd be.

Edit: one more thing, these people believed what they read so now you know how fake news gets proliferated. i read it on the internetz so it must be true.
Come on guys use some logic and common sense

MFPM

Omackeral wrote: »

Seems the debate is being dragged further away from the topic, I'm sure that was never the intention :pac:

Says the guy demanding comment on a cafe in Paris! :rolleyes:

MFPM

Omackeral wrote: »

What are YOU babbling on about?! The thread is specifically for posting pictures of beautiful women. There's a men's one too. I've posted in both threads. Am I objectifying men too? I'm such an equalist pig!!!

What are YOU babbling on about?!

I don't babble, do try to be original and don't steal from posts!

The thread is specifically for posting pictures of beautiful women.

I'm aware of what the thread is - it's purpose is for the objectification of women based on alleged beauty.

There's a men's one too. I've posted in both threads. Am I objectifying men too? I'm such an equalist pig!!!

Well my friend I sincerely hope you don't need me to point out the difference between the relative positions of men and women in society when it comes to sexual objectification.

Deebles McBeebles

Couldn't pay someone to objectify my c*ck.

MFPM

MFPM wrote: »

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Well my friend I sincerely hope you don't need me to point out the difference between the relative positions of men and women in society when it comes to sexual objectification.

Well I theoretically did my bit by treating both genders the same so as I posted in both threads. God/Allah bless equality! Yay!

All Seeing Eye

MFPM you are welcome to come to Balbriggan and actually see things for yourself rather than theorising.

Will I Am Not

MFPM wrote: »

How do you know their religion?

You see them going into the mosque head to toe in white garb. Unless they’re painting and decorating?

Lux23

Aren't the lads in this gang supposedly Igbo though?

_Kaiser_

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

MFPM you are welcome to come to Balbriggan and actually see things for yourself rather than theorising.

That's not very likely I'd imagine.

The entire basis of the virtue-seeking argument is theoretical. This is why uncomfortable facts and realities are dismissed as "-ist" or "-phobic" or "fake news", or deflected with irrelevant drivel.

Because it's more about being seen to be on the "right side" of an issue than objectively considering it and making up their own minds, anything that goes against that position is a threat to be attacked.

That's why not one of them have been able to answer the simple questions put to them on this issue without a torrent of personal abuse, strawmanning, whataboutery, or just ignoring it outright.

I'm not sure who they think they're fooling to be honest. The days of reasonable people being shouted down/at by this minority thankfully seem to be coming to an end.

MFPM

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

MFPM you are welcome to come to Balbriggan and actually see things for yourself rather than theorising.

Aw thanks ASE, who appointed you as official Balbriggan welcomer?

Anyway, back to #1372 - any sign of those incidents you're been prattlling on about?

Billy Mays

TeaBagMania wrote: »

LOL and both of you are as gullible as i thought you'd be.

Edit: one more thing, these people believed what they read so now you know how fake news gets proliferated. i read it on the internetz so it must be true.
Come on guys use some logic and common sense

"Guys, I was only messing, honest"


The irony of you banging on about fake news after linking African people to the Rochdale abuse scandal is quite something.

_Kaiser_

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

The entire basis of the virtue-seeking argument is theoretical. This is why uncomfortable facts and realities are dismissed as "-ist" or "-phobic" or "fake news", or deflected with irrelevant drivel.

Amen!!!



(Or whatever the acceptable non-denominational equivalent is)

CinemaGuy45

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That's not very likely I'd imagine.

The entire basis of the virtue-seeking argument is theoretical. This is why uncomfortable facts and realities are dismissed as "-ist" or "-phobic" or "fake news", or deflected with irrelevant drivel.

Because it's more about being seen to be on the "right side" of an issue than objectively considering it and making up their own minds, anything that goes against that position is a threat to be attacked.

That's why not one of them have been able to answer the simple questions put to them on this issue without a torrent of personal abuse, strawmanning, whataboutery, or just ignoring it outright.

I'm not sure who they think they're fooling to be honest. The days of reasonable people being shouted down/at by this minority thankfully seem to be coming to an end.

That minority from my perspective had a lot of power on here for a long time.

MFPM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That's not very likely I'd imagine.

The entire basis of the virtue-seeking argument is theoretical. This is why uncomfortable facts and realities are dismissed as "-ist" or "-phobic" or "fake news", or deflected with irrelevant drivel.

Because it's more about being seen to be on the "right side" of an issue than objectively considering it and making up their own minds, anything that goes against that position is a threat to be attacked.

That's why not one of them have been able to answer the simple questions put to them on this issue without a torrent of personal abuse, strawmanning, whataboutery, or just ignoring it outright.

I'm not sure who they think they're fooling to be honest. The days of reasonable people being shouted down/at by this minority thankfully seem to be coming to an end.

You ignoring of my contributions didn't last too long even if your reply is by proxy! :)

This is why uncomfortable facts and realities are dismissed as "-ist" or "-phobic" or "fake news", or deflected with irrelevant drivel.

Funny how when uncomfortable facts are pointed out to you or your type, you resort to idiotic and meaningless phrases such as 'virtue signalling'. Hypocrisy much?

Isn't it also interesting the lack of any actual content in that paragraph, no specifics just rather vaccuous sloganeering.

Because it's more about being seen to be on the "right side" of an issue than objectively considering it and making up their own minds, anything that goes against that position is a threat to be attacked.

Utter nonsense, any cursory glance at this thread would indeed reveal a lack of objectivity but it's primarly from those propagating anti migrant sentiment - those who argue that 'paddys don't use knives', only 'black men mug 85 year old women' only 'muslim men mistreat women' - just some of the garbage that has been posted here in the last few days. You had nothing to say on those statements, perhaps you (conveniently) missed them!

That's why not one of them have been able to answer the simple questions put to them on this issue without a torrent of personal abuse, strawmanning, whataboutery, or just ignoring it outright.

And now you're just lying. I answered each question you posed in some detail, you replied and I also took the trouble to reply again despite the fact that you selectively responded to my points and were disingenious at best with others, you then ran away.

The days of reasonable people being shouted down/at

The only people shouting down is you and your type.

this minority thankfully seem to be coming to an end.

Do explain how you've arrived at this conclusion?

MFPM

Omackeral wrote: »

Amen!!!



(Or whatever the acceptable non-denominational equivalent is)

If it means you'll stop posting 'drivel' - I'm with you on this!

CinemaGuy45

MFPM wrote: »

You ignoring of my contributions didn't last too long even if your reply is by proxy! :)



Funny how when uncomfortable facts are pointed out to you are your type how you resort to idiotic and meaningless phrases such as 'virtue signalling'. Hypocrisy much?

Isn't it also interesting the lack of any actual content in that paragraph, no specifics just rather vaccuous sloganeering.



Utter nonsense, any cursory glance at this thread would indeed reveal a lack of objectivity but it's primarly from those propogating anti migrant sentiment - those who argue that 'paddys don't use knives', only 'black men mug 85 year old women' only 'muslim men mistreat women' - just some of the garbage that has been posted here in the last few days. Given you had nothing to say on them perhaps you (conveniently) missed them!



And now you're just lying. I answered each question you posed in some detail, you replied and I also took the trouble to reply again despite the fact that you selectively responded to my points and were disingenious at best with others, you then ran away.



The only people shouting down is you and your type.



Do explain how you've arrived at this conclusion?

I am under no obligation to explain anything but I believe you fully understand.

In this thread alone you have ducked and dived from answering the simplest of questions.

MFPM

MFPM wrote: »

you resort to idiotic and meaningless phrases such as 'virtue signalling'. Hypocrisy much?

no specifics just rather vaccuous sloganeering.

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MFPM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I am under no obligation to explain anything but I believe you fully understand.

In this thread alone you have ducked and dived from answering the simplest of questions.

I am under no obligation to explain anything but I believe you fully understand.

Forgive me, I haven't a notion what you're on about?

In this thread alone you have ducked and dived from answering the simplest of questions.

Why are you lying?

MFPM

Omackeral wrote: »

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Are things that bad for you that you're repeating my posts?

I see you got a like from the guy who thinks Pakistan is in Africa!!

MFPM

MFPM wrote: »

Are things that bad for you that you're repeating my posts?

Let's see, you're accusing others of hypocrisy yet you trotted out meaningless buzzwords in the very same post. It's either irony or hypocrisy, in either case it's lost on you

MFPM wrote: »

I see you got a like from the guy who thinks Pakistan is in Africa!!

I'm not responsible for likes given by others to my witty, charismatic, truthful, honest, informative and humble musings.