PB Points League 2018

Testosterscone

I dunno if this one will be of any interest but hopefully can get off the ground running

The Rules

1) Specific designated races will be assigned each month
2) People list there current PB's
3) Points awarded based on performance

How scoring works;

- Points calculated using the IAAF Scoring table attached comparing performance vs current PB

So for example someone who runs a 1.04.26 10k (70 points on table) and hits a PB of 58.03 (180 points) will be awarded 110 points.

This should make things as fair as possible as point increments get larger going up in times (1 second at 30 min level for 10k vs 5 second increments for 60 min level) however still slightly skewed towards newer runners given chances of PB are higher. Hopefully it is as fair a way of promoting a competition here that is open to all levels.

Prizes will be awarded for top 3.

OOnegative

Good idea, but what about us Boardsies living abroad:). I take it you mean a list of Irish road races and using the IAAF scoring system then to allocate points?

Testosterscone

OOnegative wrote: »

Good idea, but what about us Boardsies living abroad:). I take it you mean a list of Irish road races and using the IAAF scoring system then to allocate points?

I think we can facilitate odd exception where boardsies PM race details and advance.

Benefit of this format is that you can compare between track and road to be more inclusive (with Chivito and the growing list of people dipping there toe into the track disciplines)

skyblue46

So will Raheny be the January race?

Testosterscone

skyblue46 wrote: »

So will Raheny be the January race?

Probably as good a start as any. If people list races in Feb we can do it month by month and we can have approval by the start of each month.

If there are people late to the party we can always do a best of 5/8 races or the likes throughout the year.

Raheny 5
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Testosterscone|26.35||

adrian522

Raheny 5
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Testosterscone|26.35||
Adrian522|32.54||

adrian522

cam we do one of.the indoor track races in Feb? Might encourage people to try it and a few of us would have soft ( or no) pb's at 1500m or 3k or whatever.

Failing that there are a few 10 milers in Feb might be worth doing that distance.

Testosterscone

adrian522 wrote: »

cam we do one of.the indoor track races in Feb? Might encourage people to try it and a few of us would have soft ( or no) pb's at 1500m or 3k or whatever.

Failing that there are a few 10 milers in Feb might be worth doing that distance.

I was planning on include NIA, National Indoors and European Masters as races to as (hopefully) it will be a league that all across all disciplines can do and as you say hopefully promote participation at grass routes level across track and road (will probably include all NIA/Graded Meets, All Championship races, Kia Race Series and BHAA as a starting reference point of races)

Annie get your Run

I have no chance of a PB this year unless I do as Adrian suggests and go to NIA - but there's last, and there's 'still running'

Brilliant idea though, best of luck to all

Testosterscone

Annie get your Run wrote: »

I have no chance of a PB this year )

Not if I have anything to say about it

Murph_D

Great idea, could make for some excellent debate and even a bit of competitive banter. Possibly best to keep it simple, but would it be an idea to have a few designated races each month, maybe only one of which counts, to maximize participation as not everyone might be available or eligible - graded meets restricted to club runners for example.

Just a thought.

Testosterscone

Murph_D wrote: »

Great idea, could make for some excellent debate and even a bit of competitive banter. Possibly best to keep it simple, but would it be an idea to have a few designated races each month, maybe only one of which counts, to maximize participation as not everyone might be available or eligible - graded meets restricted to club runners for example.

Just a thought.

I agree to an extent though I think the likes of the graded is necessary because otherwise you alienate track people (especially as they have a smaller race window as only 9 months available with Sep-Nov ruled out) Perhaps 1 key race a month that is points weighted (1.5 multiplier) but still include championships etc.

I will have a think and iron out race plan overnight.

Murph_D

Interesting document by the way - but doesn’t seem to have points for 5-mile times. I suppose they could be worked out from an equivalent performance table?

Testosterscone

Murph_D wrote: »

Interesting document by the way - but doesn’t seem to have points for 5-mile times. I suppose they could be worked out from an equivalent performance table?

Will work off 10k increments for that one just for simplicity.

Swashbuckler

Testosterscone wrote:

Not if I have anything to say about it

I'm only putting two and two together. Is AGYR in the factory?

hot buttered scones

Raheny 5
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Testosterscone|26.35||
Adrian522|32.54||
hot buttered scones|34.31||


I'm not sure how many of these I'll do, but I'm doing this one. My PB is bit soft in fairness, haven't raced a 5 mile since 2015. I've had faster unofficial splits in longer races since, but as it stands that's my PB in a 5 mile race.

skyblue46

Raheny 5
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Testosterscone|26.35||
Adrian522|32.54||
hot buttered scones|34.31||
Skyblue46|37:17||

skyblue46

Raheny 5
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Testosterscone|26.35||
Adrian522|32.54||
hot buttered scones|34.31||
Skyblue46|37:17|33:53|

adrian522

Raheny 5
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Testosterscone|26.35||
Adrian522|32.54|32.13|52
hot buttered scones|34.31||
Skyblue46|37:17|33:53|

Going by 10k points, my old pb was 730 points and this result gives 782, so I make that 52 points accrued.

duffer247

Looking forward to getting in on this, really good idea. Great times too!

Not signed up for anything in Feb - be nice to twin it with something here

skyblue46

Raheny 5
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Testosterscone|26.35||
Adrian522|32.54|32.13|52
hot buttered scones|34.31||
Skyblue46|37:17|33:53|219

At a glance my old time was worth 440 and new 659. I'll put the points in but expect some sort of points weighting so us newbies who can still make chunky PBs don't make a mess of the whole idea. :pac:

Testosterscone

skyblue46 wrote: »

At a glance my old time was worth 440 and new 659. I'll put the points in but expect some sort of points weighting so us newbies who can still make chunky PBs don't make a mess of the whole idea. :pac:

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Just means it's harder for you next time

Raheny 5
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Testosterscone|26.35|26.57|0
Adrian522|32.54|32.13|52
hot buttered scones|34.31||
Skyblue46|37:17|33:53|219

Better than I was expecting but didn't quite have the perfect conditions of Dunboyne 5 mile last year. Still 2nd fastest ever I will take that

skyblue46

Testosterscone wrote: »

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Just means it's harder for you next time

Yeah I'm fast running out of soft PBs.

Testosterscone

Anyone wanting to add a race for Feb put up recommendations and i'll compile a short list

adrian522

Does it have to be a specific race? Trim and Dungarvan 10 Miles are both on next Sunday. You could also pick a race from the NIA live on either Feb 8th or Feb 22nd.

Murph_D

I'll be doing the 800 at NIA.

skyblue46

adrian522 wrote: »

Does it have to be a specific race? Trim and Dungarvan 10 Miles are both on next Sunday. You could also pick a race from the NIA live on either Feb 8th or Feb 22nd.

Any idea what we could do where someone doesn't have an existing PB to improve upon?

Testosterscone

List of Races as follows;

Trim/Dungarvan 10m
NIA Meets
National Seniors Indoors

skyblue46 wrote: »

Any idea what we could do where someone doesn't have an existing PB to improve upon?

For those who haven't set a time we are gonna base the equivalent IAAF Point performance so your Raheny Time equates to the following.

33.53 equates to a 42.40 10k (http://www.runfastcoach.com/calc2/index.php) This is worth 183 points.

This equates to the following:

800m: 2.31.59
1 mile: 5.42.59
3000m: 11.30.15
10 mile:70.55

skyblue46

Oh sweet divine Jaysus! Haha.

Testosterscone

skyblue46 wrote: »

Oh sweet divine Jaysus! Haha.

With great improvement comes great responsibility

skyblue46

I have all the road race distances run. It's the NIA ones I'd need to use. :-)

Murph_D

Any chance of adding NIA Jan meets retrospectively or is that tearing the arse out? :pac: There was a good bit of participation I think.

healy1835

Trim 10 Mile
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Healy1835|65:55||

Starting this one off, serious goo on me for racing after reading all the Raheny reports

adrian522

Trim/Dungavan 10 Mile
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Healy1835|65:55||
Adrian522|71:10|67:03|101

So do I add that 101 to my points from Raheny? Or is there a separate overall table?

healy1835

Trim/Dungavan 10 Mile
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Healy1835|65:55|62:26|108
Adrian522|71:10|67:03|101

AuldManKing

I'm in - but damn I cant do tables - I'm old for gods sake.

Can someone pretty please include my details

Raheny - PB 28:53 Actual: 29:24
Trim - PB 62:39 Actual: 61:45

adrian522

Trim/Dungavan 10 Mile
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Healy1835|65:55|62:26|108
Adrian522|71:10|67:03|101
AMK|62:39|61:45|31

Murph_D

Trim/Dungavan 10 Mile
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Healy1835|65:55|62:26|108
Adrian522|71:10|67:03|101
AMK|62:39|61:45|31



NIA Live 800m
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Murph_D|2:37.4|2:32.25|56


Hope my arithmetic is right!

adrian522

NIA Live 3000m
Name|Current PB|Finishing Time|Points Accrued
Adrian522|12:26|11:35|99

adrian522

Overall
Name|Points Accrued

Adrian522|252
Skyblue46|219
Healy1835|108
Murph_D|56
AuldManKing|31
Testosterscone|0
hot buttered scones|0


I think this is the current state of play.

Testosterscone

Thanks for updating this Adrian.

Been chasing my tale a little on things.

In terms of upcoming races;

Leinster Indoors
Bohermeen Half Marathon
MSB 5k
Dunboyne 4 mile
K Club 10k

Willing to open up the floor to other suggestions.

Testosterscone

Murph_D wrote: »

Any chance of adding NIA Jan meets retrospectively or is that tearing the arse out? :pac: There was a good bit of participation I think.

Think we can probably allow that. Given that it's track involvement and if it helps people get involved here now harm

OOnegative

Testosterscone wrote: »

Thanks for updating this Adrian.

Been chasing my tale a little on things.

In terms of upcoming races;

Leinster Indoors
Bohermeen Half Marathon
MSB 5k
Dunboyne 4 mile
K Club 10k

Willing to open up the floor to other suggestions.

CPC Loop Den Haag for us foreigners.........

adrian522

National Masters Indoors March 4th (Not that I'm doing it)

skyblue46

What about Craughwell 10 mile and 10k for anyone west of the Shannon....or thinking of travelling ;-)

ariana`

skyblue46 wrote: »

What about Craughwell 10 mile and 10k for anyone west of the Shannon....or thinking of travelling ;-)

Does that mean you're coming ?

skyblue46

ariana` wrote: »

Does that mean you're coming ?

It means I'm trying to give you the opportunity to get into this little game.

Too early to decide. I'll see how Bohermeen goes and how I recover from it. There's only 2 weeks between them. I'm guessing I'd be advised to do nothing but easy runs between them.

ariana`

skyblue46 wrote: »

It means I'm trying to give you the opportunity to get into this little game.

Too early to decide. I'll see how Bohermeen goes and how I recover from it. There's only 2 weeks between them. I'm guessing I'd be advised to do nothing but easy runs between them.

Ah I'm not even sure why I clicked on this thread, it's a bit over my head

skyblue46

It's based on a very simple idea....try to run faster than before! Haha

hot buttered scones

What about the Mallow 10 mile for us Munster folk?

Swashbuckler

ariana` wrote:

Ah I'm not even sure why I clicked on this thread, it's a bit over my head

I'm the same. I actually misunderstood it from the beginning and ruled myself out for the wrong reasons. Haha