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Why are so many Strong Gaelic football Counties in Decline?

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  • #62
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Sonny678 wrote: »
    You answered the question in the last line. The Meath v Dublin rivalry. Most parents settling with kids now in Meath grew up in the 80s and 90s. What was going on in Dublin GAA in 90s. Yearly battles with Meaths. And nearly yearly victories for Meath.

    There is no real rivalry between Kildare and Dublin. It's a muted rivalry. Kildare don't like Dublin. But there is a lack of bite . Something you could never accuse Meath and Dublin of not having. Meath defeated Dublin in 8 leinster finals in over 10 years in the 80s and 90s. Kildare have only beaten Dublin 1 time in a leinster final in 100 years. That's the reason. Meath v Dublin is a rivalry. One of if not the biggest rivalry in GAA.

    Kildare and Dublin is not really. In the last 45 years Kildare have beaten Dublin twice and no draws. In the last 35 years Meaths have beaten Dublin 9 times and 5 draws. That's why. It's a rivalry. Man City parents are not going to bring their kids up to support Man Utd. Celtic parents are not going to bring their kids up to support Rangers. Kilkenny parents are not going to bring their kids up to support Tipp. It's the same with Meath and Dubllin. There will be the few who will. But the vast majority of Dublin parents would rather their kids support and play for Dublin not Meath. I think that makes obvious sense. Surely that is no surprise.
    My point was that if it is actually the case that the kids are being cultured to play locally yet would prefer to represent a different county then why do they not have pride in the county they grow up in. I don't believe that it's down to the parents - otherwise my kids would like Dublin and not Kildare.
    If there is a problem whereby kids don't feel any pride or loyalty in the county that they grow up in, regardless of their where their parents come from, then we must ask why this is happenjng and how can the GAA overcome it: not just ignore it. If it is down to parents loyalties steering the kids then that can be changed but as a strategy, it needs to be encouraged from the top down. Otherwise the former great counties will continue to haemmorage potential players.
    My €0.02!


  • #63
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    I know a few lads involved in clubs in Meath, both rural and urban

    according to them, the Dubs who have children involved in clubs just cause hassle.
    the parents generally don't get involved in running things and yet an opinion on everything, and why it isn't being done right


  • #64
    Stoner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Sonny678 wrote:
    I think Stoner you are being very unfair. I am one of the most forward thinking people you will meet. But I am a passionate Meath man. I love my county. And I want to see us sucessful. And this is an issue in the county at the moment. Not the most important issue. But it is an issue all the same . To say that is not been bitter. It been stating the bleeding obvious. We will just have to adapt. A sucessful Meath senior team would help win the minds of young players in the county. That will help matters.

    I don't know Sonny I've supported your posts many times and have marvelled at your knowledge of football.

    But sometimes it falls over into Meath teams of the past being the best and having the best player in ever position ever. I understand that comes from pride and I respect it, but it's not a belief I share.

    The underage system in Meath has been blamed for the poor showing at senior level.

    Maybe some of the Dublin partents are asshxles, but maybe some can add to it.

    Like I said things move on.
    My old club in the city centre is gone, my old school is about 40 percent non national and fields no GAA teams now.

    Should I blame the foreigners?

    Yet there's still GAA here, things move on Meath should be able to get 25 good GAA players.

    I've no time for parents influencing a child to play for the parent's and not the child's county.0

    I've see that happen here too although I'd imagine that Meath have a particularly difficult time with this at the moment.

    But again things move on, the people in a county make up a county, some steps by clubs in Meath will need to be taken.

    Another point about Dublin kids is that many play soccer too. This leads to a particular type of feedback from parents . I wouldn't wish it on anyone but unfortunately it's happening all over the country now.

    When we played in the late 80's and early 90's our manager was a Christian brother and parents didn't go to games. That seems like a long long time ago now.


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