Cold Spell Phase 1 Discussion from 6th/7th January

Trebor176

sryanbruen wrote: »

False, I had heavy snow starting around 10pm on 26th November and then I woke up to a winter wonderland on the 27th. Man those were great times!

Yeah, the winter of 2010 was incredible, and probably one we won't see the likes of for years to come. I never experienced snow like it before. A bonus was the thundersnow. Of course, we must not forget the hardship that it caused.

George Sunsnow

Yeah pretty much all of the coastal east had snow the night in question
I’m surprised Calibos thought otherwise
The bulk of the cold in nov December came from the main non marginal snowiest source for Ireland and that’s directions north,as least influenced by the Atlantic as possible

Hence I’d prefer to see polar vortices sinking ssw down through Scandinavia tbh and not a Scandinavia high

JCX BXC

MJohnston wrote: »

It's weird that they can't just say "Ulster counties" there, but I suppose people in the North would get confused!

They often say Ireland though!

squarecircles

https://youtu.be/GNEcQS4tXgQ

Peter Kay would love this thread.

squarecircles

A Beautiful faint flamingo pink,lavender glow developing on the eastern horizon as twilight forms here in West mayo,always visible in cold weather,

The breeze has fallen light,Breath visible & unusually cold given my proximity to the coastline.

yorlum11

squarecircles wrote: »

A Beautiful faint flamingo pink,lavender glow developing on the eastern horizon as twilight forms here in West mayo,always visible in cold weather,

The breeze has fallen light,Breath visible & unusually cold given my proximity to the coastline.

A beautiful evening alright!

Meteorite58

Clear sky in Kerry and down now to 3.9C


https://twitter.com/MetEireann/status/949662875194482688

Great Bright day today in Kerry.

Kingswood Rover

Calibos wrote: »

Bray/Greystones was the first and only places in the country to get Heavy Snow on the 26/27th of November 2010. We got 5 inches in 2 hours that night. All from literally one streamer stretching across the Irish Sea from the Lake District to Bray Greystones. Its literally only one of two wind directions that give Bray a long enough sea fetch for streamers positioned where we are in the middle of the east coast. Generally we'll be in the snow shadow of Antrim, IOM or Wales. For many, the remember the 2010 event starting on the 29/30th of Nov or even into December but for Bray it started with 5 inches on the 26/27th. Then we got no more till we got lucky again with the wind/streamer direction in the middle of December.

Beg to differ, here in Kilcullen we had 8 inches of lying flat snow in our front garden at that time, we got pasted

Dank Janniels

MJohnston wrote: »

It's weird that they can't just say "Ulster counties" there, but I suppose people in the North would get confused!

Ulster says s-no-w!!!!

q85dw7osi4lebg

Hail now in D15

pad199207

Flakes blowing in the wind here in Kildare!

Nettle Soup

Is this just a frosty night or is there snow expected?

kod87

Nettle Soup wrote: »

Is this just a frosty night or is there snow expected?

2 frosty nights if we're lucky. Might be a light snow shower or two on high ground. That's about it.

JCX BXC

Nettle Soup wrote: »

Is this just a frosty night or is there snow expected?

http://www.met.ie/forecasts/

Knock yourself out

uck51js9zml2yt

Just read on the IT website that 56cm of snow was dumped in Maine.

Elmer Blooker

Ian Loud Leotard wrote: »

Just read on the IT website that 56cm of snow was dumped in Maine.

It seems a certainty that serious flooding will cause problems in that part of the world soon with so much snow lying, 2m temps expected in a few days time.

pauldry

-1.3c in Sligo town.

How low can u go

-6c probable in Markree

Pretzill

pauldry wrote: »

-1.3c in Sligo town.

How low can u go

-6c probable in Markree

-2.5 in South Sligo a hoarfrost on the grass and the planets and stars are like beacons.

Beautiful night.

Calibos

OK OK, I get it everyone!! Me and Bray weren't special on Nov 26th 2010. I've lived a lie these past 6 or 7 years. I was sure I dined on the bitter tears of Dublin, Meath and Wexford Snowlovers that night.

uck51js9zml2yt

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

It seems a certainty that serious flooding will cause problems in that part of the world soon with so much snow lying, 2m temps expected in a few days time.

In contrast, Australia is hitting +45C with roads melting.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/australasia/australians-warned-to-stay-indoors-as-temperatures-so-hot-the-roads-are-melting-36463648.html


I'm glad I'm here in middle of the road Ireland:)

DOCARCH

-5c being reported at both Ballyhaise and Markree at 0600.

Gaoth Laidir

Of the synoptic stations, Ballyhaise is the coldest so far the morning with -4.7 air temperature (1.5 m) by 6 am. Grass minimum temperature was -8.

List from 6 am synop reports (air temperature/grass minimum temperature)
BALLYHAISE -4.7/-8
GURTEEN-3.3/-9
CLAREMORRIS -3.1/-10
FINNER -2.6/-6
....
....
JOHNSTOWN CASTLE +4.9/+3

JCX BXC

Kerry airport reporting -4c at 8am.
There's a 6c gap between Dublin Airport and Casement at 8am this morning, being +5c and -1c respectively.

Currently -1.0c here in West Clare, the first sub zero temperature we'll have gotten in daylight hours this season.

Beautiful frost out!

Villain

Low of -3.5c this morning.

Snow line yesterday on Mount Leinster was around 600m
https://twitter.com/carlowweather/status/949746816999976960

Gaoth Laidir

Ballyhaise was -5.5 °C at 8 am.

Hourly temps

4am...5am...6am...7am...8am...9am...10am
-4.0....-3.7....-4.6....-4.3....-4.8.....-5.5.....-3.8

Meanwhile Casement has now jumped up to +4.5 from -1.3 at 9 am as the wind switched from 310 at 2 kt to 070 at 7 kts.

Meteorite58

Got down to -2.7C here near Tralee, close to the coast. Nice still morning with blue skies. Barometer still climbing , now at 1030.4 hPa .

Respite from all the wind and rain but looks like not for long with Tues set to be a wet and blustery day and briefly relatively mild in the Southern half of the country during the day before turning cool again.

Gaoth Laidir

Grass min -11.3°C at Markree.

https://twitter.com/MetEireann/status/949953995891793920

Meteorite58

Fantastic crisp morning down on Banna Strand, nice frost on the car, pic taken about 11.00 but still coated in frost as in the shade.

George Sunsnow

A friend just sent me this,it was when a shower came in during a climb of lugnaquilla yesterday

Elmer Blooker

So, just watched Gerry Murphy's forecast and turning unsettled again as the Atlantic returns after this brief interlude of quiet weather.
At least the bull**** theory that a warm North America in winter can influence our weather can be tossed into the bin.
Time now for the last throw of the dice? Any sign of a SSW? :rolleyes:
Moan over.

squarecircles

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

So, just watched Gerry Murphy's forecast and turning unsettled again as the Atlantic returns after this brief interlude of quiet weather.
At least the bull**** theory that a warm North America in winter can influence our weather can be tossed into the bin.
Time now for the last throw of the dice? Any sign of a SSW? :rolleyes:
Moan over.

You could see the look of relief on his face.

George Sunsnow

You’d want a sudden one which I presume wouldn’t be modeled because it’s sudden (not that even medium range sw modeling should be trusted if it’s the same super models as the phantom easterlies)
A warm North America is probably exactly what we need
A lack of energy coming out of there might be the missing ingredient with a split vortex up north?

igCorcaigh

STATUS ORANGE

Low Temperature Warning for Munster, Inland areas of Leinster, Connacht, Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan
Turning very cold tonight with lowest temperatures falling between -4 and -6 degrees away from southern and eastern coasts.

Issued:Sunday 07 January 2018 13:00
Valid:Sunday 07 January 2018 21:00 to Monday 08 January 2018 10:00

JCX BXC

Should be a beautiful frost in the morning.

Still an appreciable amount of frost in the shade here at 2pm here in West Clare, I've missed days like this. Last proper lasting frost was November 2016.

Elmer Blooker

George Sunsnow wrote: »

A warm North America is probably exactly what we need
A lack of energy coming out of there might be the missing ingredient with a split vortex up north?

A warm North America (in winter) may make Atlantic storms that bit less ferocious but when signs of blocking appear to our east and raise our hopes the Atlantic will win 99 times out of a 100 regardless of whats going on the North American continent.

Maybe next winter the solar minimum might give us something to get excited about but even then theres always the possibility that blocking will be in the "wrong" place and places like Greece, Italy and even North Africa go into the freezer!

HighLine

igCorcaigh wrote: »

STATUS ORANGE

Low Temperature Warning for Munster, Inland areas of Leinster, Connacht, Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan
Turning very cold tonight with lowest temperatures falling between -4 and -6 degrees away from southern and eastern coasts.

Issued:Sunday 07 January 2018 13:00
Valid:Sunday 07 January 2018 21:00 to Monday 08 January 2018 10:00

The additional degree lower than last night constitutes an orange warning?
As is with orange warnings... be prepared for this onslaught of severe weather that will bear down on us this January night. :cool:

ZX7R

Just back from a lovely buggy ride, with my son he is special needs, wicklow mountains have a nice dusting of snow birds singing and beautiful sunshine, you can give me this cold crisp and sunny weather for the rest of the winter, just to see how happy my boy is to get out of the house

igCorcaigh

Icy roads and footpaths are things people (and local authorities) need to be prepared for.

ninebeanrows

Must be said the need for an Orange national warning for temperatures hitting -5 or -6 degrees for one night in January is quite odd.

But that is what the warning system says to do - so the Mets in Met Eireann therefore must issue it.

squarecircles

HighLine wrote: »

The additional degree lower than last night constitutes an orange warning?
As is with orange warnings... be prepared for this onslaught of severe weather that will bear down on us this January night. :cool:

Colour coded Warnings have criteria,the criteria has been met for such conditions.

What could possibly go wrong...sigh.

UpTheHillFrom

Just back from the top of Croghan, Co Wicklow, there was a light dusting of snow in the shadows above 500m asl, not enough for a snowball.

fraxinus1

Got the RTÉ news alert on my phone stating that an orange warning was issued for tonight. Heart jumped as I thought either a sudden nowcast snowfall coming or it’s going to get really cold tonight..... -9 or -10...... only to read it’s -6! An orange warning does appear excessive. I know criteria have been meet but even by Irish standards, it’s hardly that severe. -6 and lower occurs at least once a year, practically every year.

squarecircles

Maybe they should have subcategories within each colour code warning, so you could have a moderate orange warning for central counties of Connacht and a severe yellow warning for coastal Connacht for example.

And then another simple straightforward standard Warning system for non incensed non weather fanatic Joe public.

Just so as to make things clearer.

JCX BXC

No need for the RTE alert, although not much seems to trigger them.

While it is a little excessive imo, it's worth keeping in mind for people for slippy footpaths etc and keeping themselves warm. An elderly woman near me had a bad fall this morning and fractured her elbow, very lucky considering she recently had a hip replacement.

There's not much between a yellow and orange warning if you look at the ME criteria.

MJohnston

squarecircles wrote: »

Maybe they should have subcategories within each colour code warning, so you could have a moderate orange warning for central counties of Connacht and a severe yellow warning for coastal Connacht for example.

And then another simple straightforward standard Warning system for non incensed non weather fanatic Joe public.

Just so as to make things clearer.

They do have subcategories in essence though because they have the warning level and then they quantify exactly what is triggering it, along with a brief forecast of expectations. I seriously don't know why that is too difficult for some of the general public to understand!

Gaoth Laidir

JCX BXC wrote: »

Should be a beautiful frost in the morning.

Still an appreciable amount of frost in the shade here at 2pm here in West Clare, I've missed days like this. Last proper lasting frost was November 2016.

And Shannon has the most severe frost warning of all the airports so enjoy the frost!


EINN AD WRNG 01 VALID 071600/081200 FROST MOD GND AND FBL AIR DEPOSITIONS LIKELY BECMG 0722/0801 SEV GND and MOD Air FCST =

Less severe warnings at the other airports.

Soccarboy11

grass is frozen and water on the floor is frozen outside my home in Cork City already. Car shows 1 degree, but ground must be colder!

Oops69

not even a yellow warning in uk, yet temps there reportedly due to hit -11, is there an inconsistency in applying the warnings , perhaps the UK trying to be different .....again ?

Villain

Nice windchill on Lug today

https://twitter.com/carlowweather/status/949998725564456960

ZX7R

Oops69 wrote: »

not even a yellow warning in uk, yet temps there reportedly due to hit -11, is there an inconsistency in applying the warnings , perhaps the UK trying to be different .....again ?

I posted similar in another thread, there is in fact 3 yellow weather warnings in UK for 3 different areas