Mobile phone radiation - the cigarettes of our generation?

Kuva

California says the only safe way to talk on your cell phone is to text

study into the safety of mobile (cell) phones is expected to report early next year that the devices can trigger the most lethal form of brain cancer, glioblastoma multiforme (GBM)

They released their initial findings early so that the report couldn't be buried apparently. Levels of that type of cancer have risen in the general population.

Wi Fi, bluetooth, they all operate in the same way yes? Just with varying levels of intensity?

Apple explicitly tells you to use a hands-free option like speakerphone or headphones while talking in order to “reduce exposure to RF energy.” The manual also notes that cell phones are currently tested for radiation assuming the devices would be kept at least 5 mm (0.2 in) away from the body while being carried. That’s a lot more than the thickness of pocket fabric.

Will you change how you use your phone?

Atlantic Dawn

I would say diesel cars would be more the cigarettes of our generation.

Grab All Association

Haven’t died yet. Mobile phone owner since the TACS 088

Are Am Eye

Kuva wrote: »

California says ...

Look. It's started already.
Kuva is having conversations with Nation and State territories. Damn you
radio signal radiation. Damn you.

Kuva

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Look. It's started already.
Kuva is having conversations with Nation and State territories. Damn you
radio signal radiation. Damn you.

I rang them on the landline.

peasant

I'm still on cigarettes...

ThisRegard

Have cigarettes been banned or something for them to be no longer cigarettes of every generation?

Yamanoto

Patients in Ireland who have undergone removal / partial removal of Glioblastomas (which will almost certainly return) are told by Neurologists to avoid the use of mobile phones.

Donald Trump

Why are you trying to smoke mobile phones ya lunatic?

Capt'n Midnight

Phones have been around longer than most people on the planet. And most people on the planet use mobile phones.

5 billion people use mobile phones. Even tiny risks would have shown up in the statistics by now. Mobile phone radiation is non-ionising, so it's less harmful than warmth at a distance.

Microwave ovens are allowed to leak way more radiation and more energetic radiation than a phone. The old CRT TV's were lethal , X-rays and Kilovolts and Ozone in every home.


Sunlight is a proven cause of cancer.
Oxygen is also a carcinogen.



Mobile phones are safe, as long as the battery doen't catch fire.

Roger_007

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

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Mobile phones are safe, as long as the battery doen't catch fire.

Strangely enough cigarettes are also safe, as long as they don't catch fire!;)

I've this big fancy smartphone there the last year and I reckon it's frying my hands..

Tropheus

Sugar is the cigarettes of our generation. Just look at the levels of obesity around you. Mobile phones don't even come close.

Ten of Swords

Kuva wrote: »

Will you change how you use your phone?

No

And neither will anyone else

4068ac1elhodqr

The only solution to reduce mobile phone 2.4ghz radiation is:

i) Use 'Airtubes' (hollow earpiece) during conversations, and keep at a distance*.
ii) Consider SAR rating/values e.g. Some iPhones can be 300% higher than some Samsung Notes
iii) Avoid use if there is only 1bar, as it will be boosting power output to achieve a steady connection.
iv) Very high data transfers e.g. Live HD stream will 'cook' much more than simple audio calls.
v) Don't press the phone directly against your head, this is especially important for younger skulls.

*Bluetooth can do this, but that also runs (likely lower, but also at 2.4ghz^), hence hollow tube sonics are better.
^2.4ghz is the exact same frequency of electromagnetic radiation as the typical household microwave.

Ash.J.Williams

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I would say diesel cars would be more the cigarettes of our generation.

How could they when our national green party forced the entire country to buy them... They are the green party they know what they're doing

Kuva

Tropheus wrote: »

Sugar is the cigarettes of our generation. Just look at the levels of obesity around you. Mobile phones don't even come close.

No, we know sugar is a killer, we don't have doctors telling you to eat more.

Capt'n Midnight

Jeremiah Breezy Author wrote: »

The only solution to reduce mobile phone 2.4ghz radiation is:

Turn off wifi and bluetooth*

3G and 4G use lower , less energetic frequencies than 2.4GHz.


*of course this is only worth doing if you turn off everything in your house with wifi and bluetooth, like your telly and internets.

4068ac1elhodqr

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Turn off wifi and bluetooth*

3G and 4G use lower , less energetic frequencies than 2.4GHz.

*of course this is only worth doing if you turn off everything in your house with wifi and bluetooth, like your telly and internets.

All signals to towers from mobile phones are microwave and thus based on 2.4hghz standards, same as bluetooth/wifi. No difference if 3G,4G,5G.

The only real exception might be networks using even higher or twin channel for up/down streams.

Best idea is as you kind of suggest hard-line internet, landline. Sat or cable fed TV.

All these gizmos and gadgets from doorbells, adjustable lights and non-stop recording Alexa yokes don't help with overall EMF/radiation exposure.

Capt'n Midnight

Jeremiah Breezy Author wrote: »

All signals to towers from mobile phones are microwave and thus based on 2.4hghz standards, same as bluetooth/wifi. No difference if 3G,4G,5G.

The directional point to point links up on the towers don't radiate much down to the ground.

Also they for defo they don't use the 2.4GHz ISM band.

This reminds me of the "This will raise your chances of getting ___ by 45%." and people think it means ".005% > 45.005%".

Atlantic Dawn

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

How could they when our national green party forced the entire country to buy them... They are the green party they know what they're doing

. I suppose they are working in that the more people they kill off the less resources of the planet those that are dead can use.

donegaLroad

Tropheus wrote: »

Sugar is the cigarettes of our generation. Just look at the levels of obesity around you. Mobile phones don't even come close.

apparently a tumor needs two things to grow, glucose and a blood supply.

Jawgap

Kuva wrote: »

California says the only safe way to talk on your cell phone is to text

study into the safety of mobile (cell) phones is expected to report early next year that the devices can trigger the most lethal form of brain cancer, glioblastoma multiforme (GBM)

They released their initial findings early so that the report couldn't be buried apparently. Levels of that type of cancer have risen in the general population.

Wi Fi, bluetooth, they all operate in the same way yes? Just with varying levels of intensity?



Will you change how you use your phone?

No, but that's because my theses was on non-ionising radiation and the biological effects thereof

Canis Lupus

I'd say cigarettes are the cigarettes of our generation unless people have stopped smoking?

chocksaway

In California, life gives you cancer

Donald Trump

chocksaway wrote: »

In California, life gives you cancer

In life, California gives you cancer


Why no links to Rhythm is Dancer classic lyrics?

Donald Trump

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Turn off wifi and bluetooth*

3G and 4G use lower , less energetic frequencies than 2.4GHz.


*of course this is only worth doing if you turn off everything in your house with wifi and bluetooth, like your telly and internets.

Yeah but you'd have to be a nerd to know those things. Which likely means you'll have a shite life anyways.

Can't feckin' win it seems

Canis Lupus

donegaLroad wrote: »

apparently a tumor needs two things to grow, glucose and a blood supply.

Best of luck completely removing all forms of sugar from a person.

flaneur

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The directional point to point links up on the towers don't radiate much down to the ground.

Also they for defo they don't use the 2.4GHz ISM band.

Actually, you’re mostly using frequencies similar to UHF television with European mobile networks.

2G and increasingly 3G : 900MHz (UHF)
3G 2100MHz (microwave)
4G mostly 800MHz (UHF)
1800 MHz is also used as a secondary GSM 2G band and for 4G.

The reason microwave ovens are dangerous is not the frequency, it’s the intensity. They output about 650 to 800 Watts into an enclosed chamber.

Try putting your hand under a 800W light bulb enclosed in a small reflective box. That’s compared to a mobile phone barely outputting the power of a small torch bulb.

WiFi and Bluetooth use absolutely tiny power outputs, which is why they only work over relatively very short distances.

Capt'n Midnight

flaneur wrote: »

Actually, you’re mostly using frequencies similar to UHF television with European mobile networks.

Ah, but TV networks have been pumping out megawatts since the 1950's. So we'd have seen the effects by now.

tip - if you are carrying a fluorescent tube near a transmitter and it starts glowing like the sun it's probably a good idea to stand a little further away

The reason microwave ovens are dangerous is not the frequency, it’s the intensity. They output about 650 to 800 Watts into an enclosed chamber.

I'm only counting the allowed leakage of microwave ovens, a few mw/cm2.

Bypassing the safety interlocks is not a good idea. You still won't get cancer though. Just burns. Internal burns.