Getting threads locked if they aren't left wing

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Why? Happened tonight for my homelessness thread
So much for tolerance and acceptance. But I forgot tolerance is only ok once you agree with a certain agenda.

All I tried to raise was why do we only see Irish homeless and why are so many foreigners on hosuing list?

Bubbaclaus

That thread was deleted to save you from embarrassment due to your lack of knowledge on world affairs.

BowSideChamp

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97062482&postcount=251

Just be glad they drained some of the swamp.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Ah so I'm right because a thread doesn't fit your views I'm wrong.Pathetic

Stephen Hawkins football boots

BowSideChamp wrote: »

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97062482&postcount=251

Just be glad they drained some of the swamp.

I never mentioned liberal or conservative

cantdecide

Threadlocking wingnuts is an absurd idea. I've never even heard of left threading wingnuts. Just get a mechanic to sort it and save yourself the trouble.

Are Am Eye

Stephen Hawkins is a legend.
I hope all your threads are locked.

Maggie Marie

Where is the cranky lad to say hi?

Junkyard Tom

Virtue signalling, libtard, cuck, regressive leftist, cultural Marxist, SJW's. :mad:

Il Fascista

Trump is a great man!!

Help!!!!

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

Ah so I'm right because a thread doesn't fit your views I'm wrong.Pathetic

Debate in Ireland is over because certain people dont like to hear outside their eco chambers

Noveight

Boards leans ever so slightly left. Welcome to the real world!

DontThankMe

Il Fascista wrote: »

Trump is a great man!!

Trump 2020

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Stephen Hawkins is a legend.
I hope all your threads are locked.

Thanks will do my best

Bubbaclaus

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

Ah so I'm right because a thread doesn't fit your views I'm wrong.Pathetic

You were making factually incorrect statements about the Syrian Civil War and claiming it was over. That's not "my views", that's fact.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You were making factually incorrect statements about the Syrian Civil War and claiming it was over. That's not "my views", that's fact.

It's the view of military who actually fought there.

hatrickpatrick

Noveight wrote: »

Boards leans ever so slightly left. Welcome to the real world!

That should in no way effect how the site is run or moderated, which is a fairly basic tenet of how internet forums are supposed to operate and always has been. Boards has been hit and miss with this for a number of years.

Bubbaclaus

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

It's the view of military who actually fought there.

What the hell are you on about?

Do you know what the civil war is about and who the opposing sides are?

I get the impression you think the civil war is Syria vs ISIS. Which is hilarious.

Help!!!!

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

That should in no way effect how the site is run or moderated, which is a fairly basic tenet of how internet forums are supposed to operate and always has been. Boards has been hit and miss with this for a number of years.

Mainly miss. There are the usual people who enter a thread about immigration/migrants etc call everyone a racist untill someone responds then they report the post to the Mods & get the person banned & the thread closed.
Its usually the same mods as well involved

Stephen Hawkins football boots

I raised some genuine questions which boards felt shouldn't be answered and my thread was locked.I feel this happened as the obvious answers to my legit simple questions didn't suit boards.Proves that the tolerant left arent so open to ideas that don't fit their narrative .Anyway happy Christmas to you all.I hope that me wishing happy Christmas didn't offend.��

riffmongous

Noveight wrote: »

Boards leans ever so slightly left. Welcome to the real world!

Does it really though? Boards has a rep for being left wing but I'd love to see how many threads are created by 'left wing' versus 'right wing' people. So many threads are just 'look at this article about travellers/sjws/immigrants doing something bad' and there's rarely the opposite

Harry Palmr

The problem isn't left wing/right wing per se rather it's the nutter element, who tend to be people who propagate views that one associates with the right since Trumpton came to prominence. The nuts have been descending onto boards like falling leaves in Autumn and obviously they are overwhelmingly of the right/nationalist persuasion as they think their time has come.

Whether it has is another matter, a couple of years this could all be chip wrapper.

smokingman

Help!!!! wrote: »

Debate in Ireland is over because certain people dont like to hear outside their eco chambers

Certain people (most) don't like to listen or give heed to nazis ranting on while masterbating to pictures of dead bodies but hey....you just keep calling it an echo chamber there pet.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

What the hell are you on about?

Do you know what the civil war is about and who the opposing sides are?

I get the impression you think the civil war is Syria vs ISIS. Which is hilarious.

Of course I know what the war was about FSA v Syrian army (originally) but it morphed into Isis v Syrian Army. The FSA were bit players

Help!!!!

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The problem isn't left wing/right wing per se rather it's the nutter element who tend to be people who propagate views that one associates with the right. Since Trumpton came to prominence the nuts have been descending onto boards like falling leaves in Autumn and obviously they are overwhelmingly of the right/nationalist persuasion as they think their time has come.

And there are the usual suspects who come on to those threads calling racist/nazi etc to wind people up so they can report them

Stephen Hawkins football boots

smokingman wrote: »

Certain people (most) don't like to listen or give heed to nazis ranting on while masterbating to pictures of dead bodies but hey....you just keep calling it an echo chamber there pet.

And there u go the nazi word

Help!!!!

smokingman wrote: »

Certain people (most) don't like to listen or give heed to nazis ranting on while masterbating to pictures of dead bodies but hey....you just keep calling it an echo chamber there pet.

Consistent....well done

hatrickpatrick

riffmongous wrote: »

Does it really though? Boards has a rep for being left wing but I'd love to see how many threads are created by 'left wing' versus 'right wing' people. So many threads are just 'look at this article about travellers/sjws/immigrants doing something bad' and there's rarely the opposite

Boards' staff leans left wing - as evidenced by the fact that the threads you mention routinely get locked, whereas left-sympathetic ones far less so.

Boards in general is ridiculously over-moderated, but the political bias is particularly irritating. It seems that Boards operates on a repeating cycle of "moderation gets progressively worse, eventually there's a user uproar over it and mods agree to cool the jets a bit, this happens, then moderation slowly begins to get progressively worse again after a brief hiatus. Repeat."

The lockdown of the Feedback forum is evidence enough of this. The Feedback forum was decimated because so many users were pissed off at the level of micromanagement involved in discussions here, so rather than actually address it, the powers that be decided to simply make it harder for people to object publicly. The Politics Cafe forum was made invite-only and essentially neutered as a "compromise" instead of just letting people have their discussions and only moderating posts which actually broke the rules, as opposed to the vague and unquantifiable "this is getting out of hand" metric mods tend to use here, even when no specific rules are actually being broken.

Boards isn't going to change, but it remains the only Irish forum for general discussion, hence we just grumble periodically and collectively decide that overly censored forum-based discussion of Irish life is better than none at all.

eeguy

smokingman wrote: »

Certain people (most) don't like to listen or give heed to nazis ranting on while masterbating to pictures of dead bodies but hey....you just keep calling it an echo chamber there pet.

This sort of comment is exactly why threads get locked. The issue is that people on the extremes tend to drown out more moderate posters with wild accusations and "colourful" language, like the quote above.
The moderate posters just get sick of this and leave, resulting in a sh*tstorm that inevitably gets locked. If people could behave like adults and hold a rational conversation things would be fine.
You also get the Daily Mail numpties who haven't a clue, but think their opinion is just as valid as everyone else. The dimmest lightbulbs pop the loudest.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

It might have to do with the fact that your other post was ignorant?

smokingman

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

And there u go the nazi word

....there is a less discrptive word to describe trump-loving, foreigner hating, supremecist views?.....

ThisRegard

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

All I tried to raise was why do we only see Irish homeless

Because you're not looking hard enough? Plenty are in the media.

hatrickpatrick

smokingman wrote: »

....there is a less discrptive word to describe trump-loving, foreigner hating, supremecist views?.....

They're just far right views. Unless they literally advocate for mass execution in the order of millions, the word "Nazi" is hyperbole and always will be.

Help!!!!

smokingman wrote: »

....there is a less discrptive word to describe trump-loving, foreigner hating, supremecist views?.....

Who said anything about foreign hating? The guy asked why there are Irish people dying on the streets due to homelessness & not migrants who should be housed only if all Irish are housed first

eeguy

Help!!!! wrote: »

Who said anything about foreign hating? The guy asked why there are Irish people dying on the streets due to homelessness & not migrants who should be housed only if all Irish are housed first

There's as many reasons as there are homeless on the street. You're not going to get to the root cause in AH my friend.

Help!!!!

ThisRegard wrote: »

Because you're not looking hard enough? Plenty are in the media.

There are Eastern Europeans yes....still doesn't take away from the fact that refugees migrants are being placed into accommodation when people already on the streets should be ahead in the queue

hatrickpatrick

Help!!!! wrote: »

Who said anything about foreign hating? The guy asked why there are Irish people dying on the streets due to homelessness & not migrants who should be housed only if all Irish are housed first

That's nationalism, which at the moment is a fairly right wing ideology. To describe it as "racism" or "foreign hating" is as moronic as describing people who oppose immigration because they believe that their region is already overpopulated relative to its economic potential, but it's standard operating procedure in political debates these days.

ThisRegard

Help!!!! wrote: »

There are Eastern Europeans yes....still doesn't take away from the fact that refugees migrants are being placed into accommodation when people already on the streets should be ahead in the queue

The question was why we only see Irish homeless people. It was pointed out that was false.

smokingman

Help!!!! wrote: »

Who said anything about foreign hating? The guy asked why there are Irish people dying on the streets due to homelessness & not migrants who should be housed only if all Irish are housed first

...So you want migrants dying on the streets instead? Gotcha so

hatrickpatrick

Help!!!! wrote: »

There are Eastern Europeans yes....still doesn't take away from the fact that refugees migrants are being placed into accommodation when people already on the streets should be ahead in the queue

This one is a matter of law rather than ideology - as far as I know, under the terms of the single EU market and free movement of people, a country isn't allowed to make a distinction between resident EU citizens and actual natives, they all count as one and the same. One of the driving forces behind Brexit which was routinely misrepresented by the remain side in my view.

Help!!!!

eeguy wrote: »

There's as many reasons as there are homeless on the street. You're not going to get to the root cause in AH my friend.

I know. 2018 is the start of something new. I think people are starting to wake up to the fact they are being treated wrong by the people supposedly voted to look after them

Help!!!!

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

That's nationalism, which at the moment is a fairly right wing ideology. To describe it as "racism" or "foreign hating" is as moronic as describing people who oppose immigration because they believe that their region is already overpopulated relative to its economic potential, but it's standard operating procedure in political debates these days.

Yeah I have no problem saying I am right wing because my country & the people living in my country should come first

riffmongous

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Boards' staff leans left wing - as evidenced by the fact that the threads you mention routinely get locked, whereas left-sympathetic ones far less so.

Boards in general is ridiculously over-moderated, but the political bias is particularly irritating. It seems that Boards operates on a repeating cycle of "moderation gets progressively worse, eventually there's a user uproar over it and mods agree to cool the jets a bit, this happens, then moderation slowly begins to get progressively worse again after a brief hiatus. Repeat."

Just sticking to AH, right wing threads generally tend to have a very different beginning to the rare left wing ones, often involving one or two guys coming on and saying something like 'exterminate X', (which tbh that kind of extreme stuff I'm glad is not allowed) and then a quick lockdown.

Then there is the proliferation of threads on these subjects that often means as soon as one is closed someone starts another one with a different OP and after a few pages it is just the exact same posts as previously

hatrickpatrick

smokingman wrote: »

...So you want migrants dying on the streets instead? Gotcha so

There is a view that if it must be one or the other, native people to a region should take priority. Of course that doesn't mean anyone wants anybody to die on the streets, but it could mean that they believe that natives to a region should be served first by that region's public resources.

Again, this is a right wing view which many including myself disagree with and even find distasteful, but the way you are characterising it is hyperbole.

Help!!!!

ThisRegard wrote: »

The question was why we only see Irish homeless people. It was pointed out that was false.

Seemingly the program the op watched showed only Irish but yes there are Eastern Euroopeans as well. Doesn't take away from the fact they should be housed before taking in anymore

readyletsgo

smokingman wrote: »

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

And there u go the nazi word

....there is a less discrptive word to describe trump-loving, foreigner hating, supremecist views?.....

Maybe, Trump supporter?

Nazi is a crazy word to use *rolls eyes*

Help!!!!

smokingman wrote: »

...So you want migrants dying on the streets instead? Gotcha so

If you think that way then thats on you. We should not be taking in anyone else while there are people living/dying on the streets.

JenovaProject

smokingman wrote: »

...So you want migrants dying on the streets instead? Gotcha so

This is the kind of bullsh1t that gets threads closed.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

I will explain why I opened this thread.Its because my last one was locked .My question is why if we can't house our own citizens ,have crisis government meetings, we then try to house people who are in no danger by the time we reach Ireland? Is it because A) the gov don't care about the destitute and would rather wave their hands to EU like best boys in class (sorry shouldn't of said boys that's not gender neutral) or what the hell is B .it's clearly A

hatrickpatrick

riffmongous wrote: »

Just sticking to AH, right wing threads generally tend to have a very different beginning to the rare left wing ones, often involving one or two guys coming on and saying something like 'exterminate X', (which tbh that kind of extreme stuff I'm glad is not allowed) and then a quick lockdown.

Then there is the proliferation of threads on these subjects that often means as soon as one is closed someone starts another one with a different OP and after a few pages it is just the exact same posts as previously

So what was wrong with the thread being discussed in this one - namely, the nationalistic suggestion that natives to a region (in this case Ireland) should take priority over non-nationals when it comes to the provision of public resources, in this case public housing?

Again, I don't actually agree with this form of nationalism, but it's a valid, legitimate political belief held by many millions of people all over the world with regard to their own particular region, so to continuously shut it down and pretend it's some kind of rare, fringe, lunatic belief just makes absolutely no sense. Like it or not, vast swathes of humanity believe in tribalistic values - "my people should come first in my homeland" - therefore, such views should be up for discussion. Sweeping them under the carpet is how you end up with "shock" election results like Brexit and Trump, wherein people who are planning to vote a certain way don't feel able to publicly talk about it or talk about their reasons for doing so.

EDIT: Just to be absolutely clear about this, I am suggesting that the statement "I believe that no non-citizen should be housed by the Irish state until every single homeless Irish person has been housed first" is, while being a statement I disagree with, not inherently hateful, racist, or something which should be regarded as not up for open discussion.

Help!!!!

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

This one is a matter of law rather than ideology - as far as I know, under the terms of the single EU market and free movement of people, a country isn't allowed to make a distinction between resident EU citizens and actual natives, they all count as one and the same. One of the driving forces behind Brexit which was routinely misrepresented by the remain side in my view.

Yeah but thats what I'm saying, those EE's should be housed before we take anyone else in