New York Times: exposes a black project group studying UFO's at the Pentagon.

Cheerful Spring

WASHINGTON — In the $600 billion annual Defense Department budgets, the $22 million spent on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was almost impossible to find.

Which was how the Pentagon wanted it.

For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.

The Defense Department has never before acknowledged the existence of the program, which it says it shut down in 2012. But its backers say that, while the Pentagon ended funding for the effort at that time, the program remains in existence. For the past five years, they say, officials with the program have continued to investigate episodes brought to them by service members, while also carrying out their other Defense Department duties.

The shadowy program — parts of it remain classified — began in 2007, and initially it was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who was the Senate majority leader at the time and who has long had an interest in space phenomena. Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reid’s, Robert Bigelow, who is currently working with NASA to produce expandable craft for humans to use in space.

Can read the fully story herehttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html



Most of the major news networks in the United States are now covering the story. Department of Defense has also released two videos of UFO's tracked by sophisticated US military systems. Department of Defense told the New York times they had ended the program in 2012, but New York investigative sources have told them this not true and the program still continues on, but it is know longer funded by official government funds. It also reported by NYT this group has collected materials, compounds, and metals, currently being looked at by scientists, and they are having trouble identifying the source of the materials. There is still lot of stuff classified but this could open up the floodgates to even more meaningful evidence coming out in the future and would finally hopefully shut the skeptics up forever.

This is one of the videos released by the US Department of Defense

Just one of the videos from yesterday MSNBC.

There be more today i believe CNN will have a report later tonight.

Mena

Shouldn’t be surprised they investigate these.

pjohnson

I knew instantly who the OP was when I saw the title

Are Am Eye

There's a meme just for this situation if I can only think of it

Tell me more .....no, no, no

one does not simply enter mordor

be like bill no

dawg i heard you like no

just can't....

JupiterKid

Whatever happened to Run To The Hills?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Aliens !

frag420

JupiterKid wrote: »

Whatever happened to Run To The Hills?

He is up in yon there hills...

_Brian

UFO’s need investing.
While the majority will be junk or nothing at all, I’m sure there is a real possibility that there are stealth observations being conducted over the USA all the time, they’d be idiots not to think that and search for them.

monnies

JupiterKid wrote: »

Whatever happened to Run To The Hills?

nothing he predicted came true , especially the nonsense about the islamification of europe

what the fukk are you doing here

server down

monnies wrote: »

nothing he predicted came true , especially the nonsense about the islamification of europe

what the fukk are you doing here

Did he expect the islamification this year?

Harry Palmr

It's as if no one ever heard of Project Blue Book

riffmongous

JupiterKid wrote: »

Whatever happened to Run To The Hills?

One of the few unique posters I actually miss on here

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss people who want to discuss these topics in a sensible manner. In the past few years a number of far fetched 'conspiracy theories' have proven to be very accurate.

Although these revelations are by no means a confirmation of ET life or anything significant, it just means that people in power are concerned enough to keep the options open through monitoring. So make what you want of that.

My own personal opinion is that you would have to be arrogant to the point of delusional to think there is no other intelligent life form in the universe. And it wouldn't surprise me if they have tried to send signals at some point in history.

But as with as arguments, extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. This doesn't even register on the scale.

falinn merking

We all know what will happen when the Aliens finally come out of the shadows.

Claiming the dole stealing our jobs and jumping the social housing queue.

And we all know the excuses that will be made we can't tar them all with the one brush just because one of them abducted you and probed your bottom that does not mean they are all the same.


I just know WE are the ones that are going to have to adapt low gravity zones in Tesco and extra bright lights.
And don't start me on the special treatment they will have spacecraft ports on the roofs of public buildings and you just know these spots will be Aliens only.

Yes yes we will be able to visit their planets but you just know the gravity will be too low and the food will suck.
Well I for one will be having non of it any Alien found with an exam table and bum bum probe I say ban them off planet.

irishguitarlad

Tom delonge fan op?

Cheerful Spring

Good video discussing the subject BBC.

Rhys Essien

I reckon it’s a ‘soft’ disclosure by the US government.There are so many people and governments coming forward in recent years the facts can no longer be denied.There will also be a new documentary movie coming out in early 2018 called ‘Ariel Phenomenon’ about the UFO incident at the school in Zimbabwe in 1994.

cloudatlas

I think the problem with this is that this release of information in the 70's / 80's about the US government study of Ufo's has largely been believed to be a way of distracting the masses, so I'm now worried about what is really going on at the moment, they are showing us the left hand to distract us from the right.

c_man

I personally don't think there's any intelligent ETs out there, but if I were in power and kept getting weird reports of objects behaving in manner that outperformed known aircraft then of course it makes sense to investigate and keep tabs on the incidents. It's too bad that the subject is riddled with, well, ridicule but it deserves respect.

The_Valeyard

It makes sense, could be next generation Chinese or Russian stealth craft in operation. I have my doubts that it would be ET doing some anal probing or things like that.

Better not be aliens otherwise we are screwed, a civilisation that advanced to travel that distance intact, we would be mere ants to them.

cloudatlas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX08u9PGPA

pjohnson

pjohnson wrote: »

I knew instantly who the OP was when I saw the title

The amusing thing is that the only thing he believes from the USA is the probing aliens stuff.

If they said millions starved in North Korea and point to the mountain of evidence, he'd heap scorn on it.

:D

The Pentagon knows exactly what those craft are, they built them.


This is misinfo to keep the Chinese/Russian military guessing.

rossie1977

$22 million, the us spends in excess of $1 trillion annually between military expenditure and nuclear weaponry so $22 million is a drop in the ocean and probably paid for guys salary leading the investigation

Cheerful Spring

Guy who headed the UFO group at the Pentagon was on CNN last night.

Apparently they only investigated military interactions with unknown objects. This was not a broad public study of UFOs sightings. The 22 million dollar budget number is not so surprising and it not like pilots of UFO's are dropping in every minute of the day and landing all over the place. The phenomenon is shadowy and elusive.

Don Kiddick

I remember someone saying that aliens have definitely never been to this planet and that Area 51 was definitely rubbish...he just pointed to Trump and said, if it was true... do you think this man could keep quiet about it !

Cheerful Spring

Deleted User wrote: »

The amusing thing is that the only thing he believes from the USA is the probing aliens stuff.

If they said millions starved in North Korea and point to the mountain of evidence, he'd heap scorn on it.

:D

Rubbish i never said North Korean people are not starving stop lying. We differ on the explanation for why they are starving. You guys just blame the North Koreans and left it at that. I see it differently but this is not a North Korea thread so stay on topic.

Cheerful Spring

Rhys Essien wrote: »

I reckon it’s a ‘soft’ disclosure by the US government.There are so many people and governments coming forward in recent years the facts can no longer be denied.There will also be a new documentary movie coming out in early 2018 called ‘Ariel Phenomenon’ about the UFO incident at the school in Zimbabwe in 1994.

I would not be shocked. This is not the end of this, more revelations are going to come out. and even the most hardened skeptic on UFO's is going to change their minds. About time i say. Excellent UFO case from Zimbabwe. You can find the children accounts to what they saw on Youtube.

4068ac1elhodqr

With 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars (approx) or '10 trillion galaxies' in the Universe, it would be foolish to imagine there is no other intelligent life out there.

According to this particular NYT story, there is recovered unusual metal alloys from unidentified flying objects that scientists "do not recognise”.
This particular object was about 40ft long, had no plumes, wings or rotors, and outpaced their F-18s. It was big enough to churn the sea 50ft below it.


Have seen a couple of silent triangles flying across the East Coast back in '88, non-flashing lights, no noise and very slow moving, haven't seen anything like that since.
From memory the local farmers did complain in the local press about livestock being interfered with.

Blazer

Probably a test flight or something. Remember the gulf war 1991 and the stealth fighter. That had been in development 20 years before the public even knew about it.
Also the only thing holding fighter planes back is the pilot. Hell a plane could easily do a 90 degree turn except the pilot would be mush against the cockpit.
Same for the formula 1 cars, Schumacher said that the cars could go easily upto 300mph and take bends way faster but no driver could cope with the g’s.

I’d love to see what planes the Air Force etc are cooking up at the moment. You can bet your ass there’s a space fighter in there.

Cheerful Spring

Braelynn Deafening Programmer wrote: »

With 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars (approx) or '10 trillion galaxies' in the Universe, it would be foolish to imagine there is no other intelligent life out there.

According to this particular NYT story, there is recovered unusual metal alloys from unidentified flying objects that scientists "do not recognise”.
This particular object was about 40ft long, had no plumes, wings or rotors, and outpaced their F-18s. It was big enough to churn the sea 50ft below it.


Have seen a couple of silent triangles flying across the East Coast back in '88, non-flashing lights, no noise and very slow moving, haven't seen anything like that since.
From memory the local farmers did complain in the local press about livestock being interfered with.

This story is covered here http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-ufo-alloys-program-recover-material-unidentified-flying-objects-not-recognise-us-government-a8117801.html


The group found metal/compounds this may be a smoking gun, but only if shown to the public and explained to them why this not of earthly origin!

Cheerful Spring

Blazer wrote: »

Probably a test flight or something. Remember the gulf war 1991 and the stealth fighter. That had been in development 20 years before the public even knew about it.
Also the only thing holding fighter planes back is the pilot. Hell a plane could easily do a 90 degree turn except the pilot would be mush against the cockpit.
Same for the formula 1 cars, Schumacher said that the cars could go easily upto 300mph and take bends way faster but no driver could cope with the g’s.

I’d love to see what planes the Air Force etc are cooking up at the moment. You can bet your ass there’s a space fighter in there.

There is no object that can rotate at 25,0000 feet up in the air. This object was moving and suddenly it just did a flip. If you observe closely you can see the cloud bank below the object as it moves and is tracked.

Blazer

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

There is no object that can rotate at 25,0000 feet up in the air. This object was moving and suddenly it just did a flip. If you observe closely you can see the cloud bank below the object as it moves and is tracked.

There is no object the public are aware of is what you mean.
You only have to look and see how far mankind has come in terms of flight. Within 60 years of the first flight mankind has travelled to the moon. It’s an astonishing jump and 2 world wars significantly caused this too.
To say that there’s nothing that can do that presently is denying what we’re capable of.
Believe me I firmly believe we’re not the only life in this universe but that video proves nothing to me.

4068ac1elhodqr

It could all be just to scare big Kim, but from memory the local farmers in the local newspaper said were fairly unhappy about having their cows turned inside out, way back in the late 80's.

There's similar reports all over the globe, across decades of livestock getting 'lasered'.

Cheerful Spring

Blazer wrote: »

There is no object the public are aware of is what you mean.

I can't dispute this, but who does it belong to. The Pentagon claims they don't have a craft like this in their inventory? This object is the size of a commercial airliner, and just flips over while in flight 25,000 feet up in the air.. This just one video they have many more to be released and declassified.

Phoebas

Remember we used to get all of those grainy videos of UFOs.
And as soon as camera phones became ubiquitous they stopped.

Funny that.

eviltimeban

Braelynn Deafening Programmer wrote: »

There's similar reports all over the globe, across decades of livestock getting 'lasered'.

The oddest thing is their fixation with the genitalia of cattle.

They probe the odd human, largely ignore dogs, cats, birds, fish...but man they really go to town on cattle.

Nabber

I thought secret budgets have been hidden in x-file cases and UFO investigations for 80years?

Putting 22mil on UFO research turns less heads than 22mil on stamps and envelopes ðŸ‘

4068ac1elhodqr

Deleted User wrote: »

The oddest thing is their fixation with the genitalia of cattle.

They probe the odd human, largely ignore dogs, cats, birds, fish...but man they really go to town on cattle.

Turning grass to milk through multiple stomachs, is probably the equivalent to changing water to wine over on Sirius. Going on for 40yrs or longer...

The time it happened locally, the farmers blamed it on army training exercises. It was only published in small a independent newspaper, nowadays all the regional papers are usually owned by the one holding group/company.

Blazer

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I can't dispute this, but who does it belong to. The Pentagon claims they don't have a craft like this in their inventory? This object is the size of a commercial airliner, and just flips over while in flight 25,000 feet up in the air.. This just one video they have many more to be released and declassified.

They’re hardly going to admit to it. It’s also possible that a company like Grumman, Northrop could be testing prototypes.

Gatling

Blazer wrote: »

They’re hardly going to admit to it. It’s also possible that a company like Grumman, Northrop could be testing prototypes.

Considering their stealth program is well in to it's 40th + year .
China and Russia must be sitting there what is coming next,

Id say going by the video posted recently there going completely unmanned for the next gen of combat aircraft

EndaHonesty

Deleted User wrote: »

The oddest thing is their fixation with the genitalia of cattle.

They probe the odd human, largely ignore dogs, cats, birds, fish...but man they really go to town on cattle.

The world is being destroyed by human's obsession with cow juice and beef burgers (deforestation, emissions etc)

Our alien overlords are just trying to figure out the attraction... :pac:

AnneFrank

Verpiss dich wrote: »

We all know what will happen when the Aliens finally come out of the shadows.

Claiming the dole stealing our jobs and jumping the social housing queue.

And we all know the excuses that will be made we can't tar them all with the one brush just because one of them abducted you and probed your bottom that does not mean they are all the same.


I just know WE are the ones that are going to have to adapt low gravity zones in Tesco and extra bright lights.
And don't start me on the special treatment they will have spacecraft ports on the roofs of public buildings and you just know these spots will be Aliens only.

Yes yes we will be able to visit their planets but you just know the gravity will be too low and the food will suck.
Well I for one will be having non of it any Alien found with an exam table and bum bum probe I say ban them off planet.

Dam goobacks

4068ac1elhodqr

HILLARY Clinton's former campaign manager (John Podesta) has demanded the "veil over UFOs is lifted" in the wake of news about a secret US Government probe into the phenomena.

Mrs Clinton also pledged during her campaign that she would find out the truth about aliens and the mysterious Area 51 USAF base in Nevada if she made it to the White House.
Mr Podesta has been at the centre of the new To The Stars Academy, launched by Mr DeLonge (former Blink 182 singer), which is crowdfunding to get funds to investigate UFOs.

'To The Stars Academy' sounds a bit too airyfairy or 'X-Factor' not X-files. Blink 182 music is fairly annoying and the representatives of the Intergalactic Federation mightn't like it one bit.


Trumps more down to earth NASA funding plan 'to lead an innovative space exploration program to send American astronauts back to the moon, and eventually Mars ...' sounds more realistic.

Rhys Essien

Interesting short interview here yesterday from a very open minded ex US Navy pilot talking about what he saw.

https://youtu.be/SMq8qqYxW6Q

kingchess

Braelynn Deafening Programmer wrote: »

HILLARY Clinton's former campaign manager (John Podesta) has demanded the "veil over UFOs is lifted" in the wake of news about a secret US Government probe into the phenomena.

Mrs Clinton also pledged during her campaign that she would find out the truth about aliens and the mysterious Area 51 USAF base in Nevada if she made it to the White House.

WHy the fúck did she not ask bill???,

NIMAN

There are now as many phones with cameras on the planet as there are people, yet I'm still waiting for that one quality shot of a ufo or an alien.

And you can add ghost to the list if you want.

We have videos of the silliest things happening in the most remote places, yet no actual footage of ufo or aliens.

Maybe there's a reason why there are no clips.

riffmongous

NIMAN wrote: »

There are now as many phones with cameras on the planet as there are people, yet I'm still waiting for that one quality shot of a ufo or an alien.

And you can add ghost to the list if you want.

We have videos of the silliest things happening in the most remote places, yet no actual footage of ufo or aliens.

Maybe there's a reason why there are no clips.

Alien cloaking devices?

Rhys Essien

Here is what Billionaire Robert Bigelow had to say on the topic recently.His company works for NASA.

https://youtu.be/bY2OYSDYsVI

Cheerful Spring

New video just got released for those who are interested?