The plight of the Irish Fisherman

DEFTLEFTHAND

We basically traded a large portion of our rich fishing waters for ag subsidies to the EU. I remember a Norwegian jounalist writing an article in the Indo a few years back, he was puzzled that we didn't have a larger fishing industry considering our potential.

The Irish fleet seems to have remained stagnant for years, no growth, old vessells and outdated systems. Coming up against modern Euro super trawlers.


I know in Britain that the fishing community were one of the strongest proponents for Brexit. Fighting back against illogical quotas, trawlers having to dump dead fish into the sea etc.


A dirty dangerous job, I respect all who do it.

Donald Trump

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

We basically traded a large portion of our rich fishing waters for ag subsidies to the EU. I remember a Norwegian jounalist writing an article in the Indo a few years back, he was puzzled that we didn't have a larger fishing industry considering our potential.

The Irish fleet seems to have remained stagnant for years, no growth, old vessells and outdated systems. Coming up against modern Euro super trawlers.


I know in Britain that the fishing community were one of the strongest proponents for Brexit. Fighting back against illogical quotas, trawlers having to dump dead fish into the sea etc.


A dirty dangerous job, I respect all who do it.

Is this the official thought for the day?

falinn merking

Donald Trump wrote: »

Is this the official thought for the day?

No it's just a Cod from the OP.

Rumpy Pumpy

There’s probably a better plaice for this thread.

Are Am Eye

Donald Trump wrote: »

Is this the official thought for the day?

Don't rise to the bait Deft.

Donald Trump

Perhaps just fishing for compliments?

Donald Trump

Looking for a quick way to make a few squid?

Donald Trump

Might be better off spending their time on a tug?

That could hold for the boat of us I suppose

SuperSean11

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

There’s probably a better plaice for this thread.

Davy Jones's Locker?

mikhail

Fishing is an industry in trouble globally because of overfishing. Meanwhile, our agricultural output is in high demand. I think we got the better end of the bargain.

falinn merking

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

There’s probably a better plaice for this thread.

I do believe I have netted myself a troll I reeled you right in.

Are Am Eye

Is there women Fishermen?

falinn merking

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Is there women Fishermen?

Don't.:D:D:D

Dr Crayfish

Fishing isn't really sustainable the way things are going. Fish farming seems to cause serious problems too. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just be sensible for once and stop fishing for 5 years or so in all European waters? Let the stocks replenish. Maybe they could pay fishermen some kind of living wage in the meantime to shut them up.

Rumpy Pumpy

Verpiss dich wrote: »

I do believe I have netted myself a troll I reeled you right in.

You’re talking pollocks, pal.

falinn merking

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

You’re talking pollocks, pal.

That was a very shark comment but I will let it pass your having a whale of a time.

Hector Bellend

At least its not the farmers that are whinging

Know a few stuck in it here in the South West.

Absolutely loaded. But a tough life alright.

The EU reforms killed off the smaller operators and small boats that couldn't go out for weeks on end, and put an end to a way of life in many ports. On the other hand, it's happened, and it was the makings of places like Castletownbere with superb facilities where locals spend millions on trawlers and think nothing of it.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Is the sole porpoise of this thread to plaice emphasis on the cod the EU has made of the fishing industry? It's a red herring if so, as stocks were doomed anyway.

Roger Hassenforder

This is embarrassing
Im floundering trying to think of a good fish pun.

falinn merking

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

This is embarrassing
Im floundering trying to think of a good fish pun.

You have no talent and I would bet that is reflected in your NET income.:p

Jawgap

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

We basically traded a large portion of our rich fishing waters for ag subsidies to the EU. I remember a Norwegian jounalist writing an article in the Indo a few years back, he was puzzled that we didn't have a larger fishing industry considering our potential.

The Irish fleet seems to have remained stagnant for years, no growth, old vessells and outdated systems. Coming up against modern Euro super trawlers.


I know in Britain that the fishing community were one of the strongest proponents for Brexit. Fighting back against illogical quotas, trawlers having to dump dead fish into the sea etc.


A dirty dangerous job, I respect all who do it.

Ah, that crusty old myth.....

200 mile limits only came into being in the late 70s, long after we joined the EEC.

Up until then we only had the old 3 and 12 mile limits.

We never, ever had an oceanic fishing tradition like the Norwegians, Spanish, Dutch, UK etc In fact, the EEC acted as a spur to us developing a decent off-shore capability.

And yes, absolute respect and kudos for anyone working on any vessel, on or off-shore. They definitely earn their money.

Jawgap

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

This is embarrassing
Im floundering trying to think of a good fish pun.

It's not embarrassing.......

......it's brill

.....you need to turbot charge your thinking to get some good puns.

By the way, a lot of skippers work on their own......their sole traders!

humberklog

There's great reading on the Bord Uisce Mhara site. Great breakdown of the history of Irish fishing industry and Irish consumer preferences in the past and to where Ireland is now.
Effectively it shows how Ireland's fishing industry never really exploited its potential up into the 70's. Equipment was dated, exports were poor and local tastes weren't into fish.

I find it funny that most people I hear ranting on with "they took our fish!" In pub conversations are people that wouldn't work on a trawler in a fit.

Roger Hassenforder

Jawgap wrote: »

It's not embarrassing.......

......it's brill

.....you need to turbot charge your thinking to get some good puns.

By the way, a lot of skippers work on their own......their sole traders!

i'd better get my skates on so.

Dr Crayfish

I don't know, people are trawling the ocean floor, wrecking entire ecosystems. What's to admire about these people? We just need to stop eating fish for a while. I love seafood and fish but would gladly leave it alone for a few years to replenish stocks.

falinn merking

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I don't know, people are trawling the ocean floor, wrecking entire ecosystems. What's to admire about these people? We just need to stop eating fish for a while. I love seafood and fish but would gladly leave it alone for a few years to replenish stocks.

Why are you being so crabby?

SEPT 23 1989

There was more votes in farming

Sold down the river

Jawgap

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I don't know, people are trawling the ocean floor, wrecking entire ecosystems. What's to admire about these people? We just need to stop eating fish for a while. I love seafood and fish but would gladly leave it alone for a few years to replenish stocks.

Trawling isn't the only method of fishing.....

btw, catch method and catch area can be found on most fish these days - just go for the line-caught or seined fish from sustainably exploited fisheries - it's still not perfect, but at least is not as destructive as trawling......

......and if you really want to save the planet stop eating beef and other farmed meat (the water resources they consume are horrendous) and stop using plastic.....

......now I'm off for a bot of surf 'n' turf!!!

falinn merking

OP I think this whole subject is just a Red Herring.

Romantic Rose

When I sea how much plastic and rubbish washes up on my local beach, I'd say they are catching more plastic than fish.

I've completely gone off fish recently. Just can't get over the psychology of eating plastic that fish have digested.

It's a pity our world is so polluted!