homeless - should local authorities supply tents & sleeping bags?

corner of hells

splinter65 wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

I'm not sure when he last did a night shift , but like I said they're not for the faint hearted but lockers are provided for valubles.

Again it's worth investigating the different types of hostels.

They vary from one night only , rolling beds , Short term accommodation, temporary emergency , private emergency and so on.

I've worked in quite a few a never felt threatened or been attacked.

Your being called a liar here because your testimony isn’t on message.

I'm a bit dopey , what does " on message " mean , please ?

gctest50

corner of hells wrote: »

Is there a point to what you're posting at all ?

yip, bit by bit so ......

corner of hells wrote: »

I've worked in quite a few a never felt threatened or been attacked.

What physical size are you roughly ( height, weight etc ) ?

end of the road

Always number 1 wrote: »

As for those on the gravy train, if you have kids and they are not in school and you're not working and you want a free house then be prepared to move away from mammy and daddy and accept a place down the country if its offered to you and start contributing to society.

i'm afraid for these people to accept a place down the country is not viable to the tax payer and local services, which would need to be bolstered hugely to cope with all these people. the areas where these people live are the best placed to support these people. if you want people moved to the country and to be then able to contribute to society then you have to be prepared to pay among the highest level of tax in the world, to provide dublin levels of services to even the most rural area. even then the state would be bankrupt so it would have been all for nothing.

SEPT 23 1989

Sort out the mental health services these lads arnt right heading out onto the streets and street life just compounds their issues

If the 120 million a year funding was focused directly on the root cause we would have far less people in doorways

corner of hells

gctest50 wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

Is there a point to what you're posting at all ?

yip, bit by bit so ......

corner of hells wrote: »

I've worked in quite a few a never felt threatened or been attacked.

What physical size are you roughly ( height, weight etc ) ?

I wonder are you trying to suggest that small , young male and female staff are intimidated and feel threatened because their size while dealing homeless individuals who let's face it are amongst the most vulnerable in society.

I'm employed because of education , skillset and experience and not another thing.

My age , height , weight all mean nothing.

Go have a look at the definition of " social care worker " ?

gctest50

corner of hells wrote: »

I wonder are you trying to suggest that small , young male and female staff are intimidated and feel threatened because their size while dealing homeless individuals who let's face it are amongst the most vulnerable in society.

.....

I'm not referring to staff at all.

corner of hells wrote: »

I've worked in quite a few a never felt threatened or been attacked.

What size are you ? Average, above average ?

splinter65

gctest50 wrote: »

I'm not referring to staff at all.

What size are you ? Average, above average ?

Are you going to get to your point tonight or sometime tomorrow?

gctest50

His answer will get the point across

Still waiting

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Inflatable sleeping-bag-jacket via pinterest link looks interesting:

Andy From Sligo

Oranage2 wrote: »

It won't help, the homeless figures are hugely boasted by single mothers living in B&Bs and hotels, the very few rough sleepers is usually by choice caused by a mental illness or addiction. Giving rough sleepers tents and such would most likely be pawned off for drink or drug money.

yes, i was wondering that as well - mind you if the tents were secury anchored down ....

whisky_galore

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splinter65 wrote: »

Fr McVerry says young people still living at home because they can’t afford to move out are homeless.
That is all.

Not quite...but to think there aren't social implications down the line if things continue in that vein you're in dreamland.

If people can't move out, they'll move on. They'll emigrate.
What use is a job here if it won't pay enough to put a roof over your head in the form of a house purchase and be at the whim of a landlord and the almighty 'market'?

Agent Coulson

So are we ever going to find out why size matters?

SEPT 23 1989

I have serious issues with hotel dwellers holding on for a house they are not homeless in my eyes

But the lads on the street would I deny them a poxy sleeping bag or a tent on a night like tonight

No chance

I pay commercial rates in this city

Andy From Sligo

end of the road wrote: »

it's not only just those with alcohol/substance/mental health issues who refuse to sleep in a hostel. many people who would be on the streets for other reasons refuse to use them because they are not safe and little is done to make them safe.

yep i have heard this as well - comes to something when its actually safer on the streets than spending a night in a hostel or shelter!

quadrifoglio verde

There's plenty of spare beds and couches in the country.
Why don't the do gooders take them in and offer a homeless person one? Surely it'd be better for them sleeping on someone's couch or spare bed where they're warm than in a doorway.
I'm sure the poor homeless would appreciate it more than some soup and a sleeping bag

SEPT 23 1989

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

yep i have heard this as well - comes to something when its actually safer on the streets than spending a night in a hostel or shelter!

Can you imagine walking into a hostel nowhere else to go surrounded by smack heads alcoholics and you are trying to deal with what's going on in your own head

worse than any horror film

Agent Coulson

It also doesn't help when hostels are understaffed and allowed to be wet hostels this enables those with addictions instead of being a stepping stone to recovery.


So the choice for some trying to recover is either stay in a wet hostel where drink and drugs are everywhere and not enough staff to monitor it or sleep outside.


Then you also have those who go into hostels as homeless to deal or intimidate those staying in the hostels who are trying to get their lives together.

Then you have the repeat homeless people who have been and will be for years gone by and year to come be homeless and it has become their lifestyle.


Homelessness has always been here and will always be here.


You can house everyone who is homeless tonight and give them all houses and tomorrow the next group of homeless will appear.

corner of hells

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I have serious issues with hotel dwellers holding on for a house they are not homeless in my eyes

But the lads on the street would I deny them a poxy sleeping bag or a tent on a night like tonight

No chance

I pay commercial rates in this city

The plan with those in hotels is to move them into family hubs with one of the criteria is that you are prepared to look for private rented rather than hang on for social housing.

corner of hells

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It also doesn't help when hostels are understaffed and allowed to be wet hostels this enables those with addictions instead of being a stepping stone to recovery.


So the choice for some trying to recover is either stay in a wet hostel where drink and drugs are everywhere and not enough staff to monitor it or sleep outside.


Then you also have those who go into hostels as homeless to deal or intimidate those staying in the hostels who are trying to get their lives together.

Then you have the repeat homeless people who have been and will be for years gone by and year to come be homeless and it has become their lifestyle.


Homelessness has always been here and will always be here.


You can house everyone who is homeless tonight and give them all houses and tomorrow the next group of homeless will appear.

I think there's one wet hostel in the city , there's a load of different types of hostels not all have active addicts/residents with mental ill health etc.
The type of support varies hugely.

Agent Coulson

corner of hells wrote: »

I think there's one wet hostel in the city , there's a load of different types of hostels not all have active addicts/residents with mental ill health etc.
The type of support varies hugely.

One official wet hostel.


You go into every single homeless hostel in the country and you will find drink and drugs are in rampant use with those hostels.

Every single one of those hostels are understaffed.

whisky_galore

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Homelessness has always been here and will always be here.

That kind of learned helplessness is the trademark of the current govt. Ah shur what can you do only throw your hands in the air?

Hector Bellend

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

hello - excuse the niave post and I am most probably come up with an idea thats come up before or its just not feasible.

but , you know there are a lot of people sleeping in shop doorways and some ofd them might not want accomodation (though why they wouldnt especially in freezing cold weather like this I will never know) But why dont the local authorities get some waterproof tents set up in a town centre location with waterproof sleeping bags rather than see homedless end up sleeping in doorways?

what have I missed here? - be more shelter from the winds and rain and snow and warmer for them.

They might want to try providing housing

Agent Coulson

whisky_galore wrote: »

That kind of learned helplessness is the trademark of the current govt. Ah shur what can you do only throw your hands in the air?

Ok so give us the answer that will end homeless here in Ireland right now.

No Country has ever solved homelessness.

corner of hells

Agent Coulson wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

I think there's one wet hostel in the city , there's a load of different types of hostels not all have active addicts/residents with mental ill health etc.
The type of support varies hugely.

One official wet hostel.


You go into every single homeless hostel in the country and you will find drink and drugs are in rampant use with those hostels.

Every single one of those hostels are understaffed.

That's not true , I work in a homeless hostel.

Agent Coulson

corner of hells wrote: »

That's not true , I work in a homeless hostel.

What's not true?

Always number 1

Hector Bellend wrote: »

They might want to try providing housing

No point providing housing if you don't provide the supports for them to stay in the housing.. address the issues which lead to them becoming homeless, help them get training to get a job and help them become more self sufficient.

corner of hells

Agent Coulson wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

That's not true , I work in a homeless hostel.

What's not true?

That hostels are understaffed and rampant with drug use and alcohol use.

Agent Coulson

Hector Bellend wrote: »

They might want to try providing housing

Give someone with an addiction or mental issue a house no problem.



Then within 6 months of the addiction kicks in and they start not to pay the rent until they are evicted.


Give someone with mental issue a house awesome no problem the leave them to there own devices until it becomes to much for them.


It's not a housing issue it is the support system for addiction and mental health that needs to be funded.

Agent Coulson

corner of hells wrote: »

That hostels are understaffed and rampant with drug use and alcohol use.

Really I know of 4 hostel in the southeast that have one staff member on duty for 16 hour shifts alone 365 days a year they work from 5p to 9 am on there own with the number of service user between 11 and 24 staying every night.


You may work in the lucky hostel that is over staffed then.


So none of the service users in the hostel you work in drink or do drugs at night while in the hostel?

whisky_galore

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Ok so give us the answer that will end homeless here in Ireland right now.

No Country has ever solved homelessness.

So you're saying there's no problem therefore we do nothing?

The sheer numbers of shuffling wrecks and junkies and street sleepers...ah sure they've been here for years upon years, haven't they? Just a normal part of Irish urban life?

Sure it'll be grand, won't it all work out in the end?

Agent Coulson

whisky_galore wrote: »

So you're saying there's no problem therefore we do nothing?

The sheer numbers of shuffling wrecks and junkies and street sleepers...ah sure they've been here for years upon years, haven't they? Just a normal part of Irish urban life?

Sure it'll be grand, won't it all work out in the end?

That is an addiction issue not a homeless issue.


Blame the government for someone's personal choice to use drugs that's an easy blame game.

whisky_galore

Always number 1 wrote: »

No point providing housing if you don't provide the supports for them to stay in the housing.. address the issues which lead to them becoming homeless, help them get training to get a job and help them become more self sufficient.

All of the above costs money of course, but it'll cost us anyway if nothing is done...just differently.

corner of hells

Agent Coulson wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

That hostels are understaffed and rampant with drug use and alcohol use.

Really I know of 4 hostel in the southeast that have one staff member on duty for 16 hour shifts alone 365 days a year they work from 5p to 9 am on there own with the number of service user between 11 and 24 staying every night.


You may work in the lucky hostel that is over staffed then.


So none of the service users in the hostel you work in drink or do drugs at night while in the hostel?

Don't work in the southeast , there's quite large teams in the hostels I've worked in.

Night staff do checks all thrugh the night , there are drug users and people alcohol issues , there are significant numbers who don't drink at all , lots more stable on methadone.
Occasionally you get chaotic drug users .
If any staff members sees any resident with alcohol or any paraphernalia you're asked to dispose of it.There's certainly no rampant drug or alcohol use , easily managed.

There's significant numbers who have addiction or alcohol issues at all. Night's are often very quite.

I'm not sure whose running those hostels in the SE , I Could guess though.

whisky_galore

Agent Coulson wrote: »

That is an addiction issue not a homeless issue.


Blame the government for someone's personal choice to use drugs that's an easy blame game.

If there's no investment in educating and otherwise stopping people from getting addicted in the first place and investing in adequate supports when they do, you shouldn't be surprised to see this problem.

Agent Coulson

whisky_galore wrote: »

If there's no investment in educating and otherwise stopping people from getting addicted in the first place and investing in adequate supports when they do, you shouldn't be surprised to see this problem.

The government does provide the investment and education but it is ignored and then they get blamed.

Where does personal responsibility come then and parents educating their children?

Shazzler77998

Some of you are so brainwashed, you haven't got a clue.
I'm homeless, and I'm in my late 20s.
I'm not an addict or an alcoholic, infact I don't drink or take drugs.
I'm lucky i'v a friend who's putting me up through this cold weather snap. If it wasn't for them i'd be dieing on the streets.
I'v stayed in alot of the hostels in the city centre,
The Bru, Merchants quay, cedar house, Portobello house, Little Britain to name but a few, you can't blame the staff(well some of them) but you wouldn't let a dog live in them.
Try being sober and homeless, and share a mat on a floor with 30 others, mostly addicts, Gearing up in front of you, leaving needles beside you, defecating and vomiting where you sleep, needle bins in showers and the bathrooms. The little valubles you have are been robbed on a daily basis. Mentally your been put through it by the minute.
You get no help from the local authority, just the usual, "apply for the HAP". I have done and its literally impossible to find a place.
Id rather take my chances on the streets than hostels, I feel safer. They need certain hostels for different types of people. Addicts/alcoholics/mental health and people who are just homeless needs to be seperated into different hostels.
Im homeless because of circumstances , I cant get a job because its been so long since my last one(recession, i was completely unemployed for 6 years), that noone even replys to my CVS. I do cv drops daily, and the looks I get from from some potential employers would leave you not wanting to go again.
If I cant get a job I cant afford somewhere to live. This is modern day Ireland, and its a joke. Those in government are the worst, they dont even care!
All I need is a little help to get me on my feet, a job and a bed. But for the last 6-8 years im being denied this, which accumulated my homlessness.
I probably die on the streets, but i'll die knowing people in government and council knew my situation and did f... all about it.

gctest50

corner of hells wrote: »

Don't work in the southeast , there's quite large teams in the hostels I've worked in.

Night staff do checks all thrugh the night , there are drug users and people alcohol issues , there are significant numbers who don't drink at all , lots more stable on methadone.
Occasionally you get chaotic drug users .
If any staff members sees any resident with alcohol or any paraphernalia you're asked to dispose of it.There's certainly no rampant drug or alcohol use , easily managed.

There's significant numbers who have addiction or alcohol issues at all. Night's are often very quite.

Couldn't believe a word of that post



https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/689169477091508224

https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0118/761135-homeless/


Complaints have also been made about the treatment of homeless people by accommodation staff.

There were several complaints from people who had been asked to leave or removed from accommodation without being given any reason.

They believe they were evicted because they complained about conditions.

splinter65

Shazzler77998 wrote: »

Some of you are so brainwashed, you haven't got a clue.
I'm homeless, and I'm in my late 20s.
I'm not an addict or an alcoholic, infact I don't drink or take drugs.
I'm lucky i'v a friend who's putting me up through this cold weather snap. If it wasn't for them i'd be dieing on the streets.
I'v stayed in alot of the hostels in the city centre,
The Bru, Merchants quay, cedar house, Portobello house, Little Britain to name but a few, you can't blame the staff(well some of them) but you wouldn't let a dog live in them.
Try being sober and homeless, and share a mat on a floor with 30 others, mostly addicts, Gearing up in front of you, leaving needles beside you, defecating and vomiting where you sleep, needle bins in showers and the bathrooms. The little valubles you have are been robbed on a daily basis. Mentally your been put through it by the minute.
You get no help from the local authority, just the usual, "apply for the HAP". I have done and its literally impossible to find a place.
Id rather take my chances on the streets than hostels, I feel safer. They need certain hostels for different types of people. Addicts/alcoholics/mental health and people who are just homeless needs to be seperated into different hostels.
Im homeless because of circumstances , I cant get a job because its been so long since my last one(recession, i was completely unemployed for 6 years), that noone even replys to my CVS. I do cv drops daily, and the looks I get from from some potential employers would leave you not wanting to go again.
If I cant get a job I cant afford somewhere to live. This is modern day Ireland, and its a joke. Those in government are the worst, they dont even care!
All I need is a little help to get me on my feet, a job and a bed. But for the last 6-8 years im being denied this, which accumulated my homlessness.
I probably die on the streets, but i'll die knowing people in government and council knew my situation and did f... all about it.

Ideally, what kind of help would you like right now.

Agent Coulson

Shazzler77998 wrote: »

Some of you are so brainwashed, you haven't got a clue.
I'm homeless, and I'm in my late 20s.
I'm not an addict or an alcoholic, infact I don't drink or take drugs.
I'm lucky i'v a friend who's putting me up through this cold weather snap. If it wasn't for them i'd be dieing on the streets.
I'v stayed in alot of the hostels in the city centre,
The Bru, Merchants quay, cedar house, Portobello house, Little Britain to name but a few, you can't blame the staff(well some of them) but you wouldn't let a dog live in them.
Try being sober and homeless, and share a mat on a floor with 30 others, mostly addicts, Gearing up in front of you, leaving needles beside you, defecating and vomiting where you sleep, needle bins in showers and the bathrooms. The little valubles you have are been robbed on a daily basis. Mentally your been put through it by the minute.
You get no help from the local authority, just the usual, "apply for the HAP". I have done and its literally impossible to find a place.
Id rather take my chances on the streets than hostels, I feel safer. They need certain hostels for different types of people. Addicts/alcoholics/mental health and people who are just homeless needs to be seperated into different hostels.
Im homeless because of circumstances , I cant get a job because its been so long since my last one(recession, i was completely unemployed for 6 years), that noone even replys to my CVS. I do cv drops daily, and the looks I get from from some potential employers would leave you not wanting to go again.
If I cant get a job I cant afford somewhere to live. This is modern day Ireland, and its a joke. Those in government are the worst, they dont even care!
All I need is a little help to get me on my feet, a job and a bed. But for the last 6-8 years im being denied this, which accumulated my homlessness.
I probably die on the streets, but i'll die knowing people in government and council knew my situation and did f... all about it.

What are you being denied for 6-8 years?


Is it the government's fault you are being denied a job and a bed.


I'm sure you get social welfare, rent allowance a medical card what more do you want the government to do for you?

Wheeliebin30

We need to follow the model of the country who has no homeless.

Oh wait, there is none....

Andy From Sligo

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

There's plenty of spare beds and couches in the country.
Why don't the do gooders take them in and offer a homeless person one? Surely it'd be better for them sleeping on someone's couch or spare bed where they're warm than in a doorway.
I'm sure the poor homeless would appreciate it more than some soup and a sleeping bag

because quite understandably people could be worried about having strangers in their house, and they dont know what baggage they come with (and I am not talking bags) - they are not qualified to deal with mental health issues and addictions.

Why does it have to be on the onus of the general public to sort out the countries housing crisis and homeless people , where does the government feature in all of this?

Shazzler77998

Agent Coulson wrote: »

What are you being denied for 6-8 years?

Opportunity/employment. The last recession hit me at a vulnreable time in my life. During that time it was college course after course. And years of no employment.
I go out of my way to find work, but have never been giving the opportunity to work since about 21 years of age. I do c.v handouts daily its all I have to do to pass my time, I do whatever I can to find employment, maybe its the stigma of homelessness, I dont know.
If i'd a job I wouldn't be homeless, i'd be able to afford to rent, to live.
I would rather not live on the streets and possibly freeze to death on a state payment of 191eur a week. But because of the way this country was/is iv no other option.

Agent Coulson

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

because quite understandably people could be worried about having strangers in their house, and they dont know what baggage they come with (and I am not talking bags) - they are not qualified to deal with mental health issues and addictions.

Why does it have to be on the onus of the general public to sort out the countries housing crisis and homeless people , where does the government feature in all of this?

Where do you think the majority of funding for homeless charities come from?


It comes from the government who fund them as they the homeless charities are the best qualified to deal with the homeless issue.


Simon, Peter McVerry, SVP, DePaul, Merchants Quay etc majority funding comes from councils & the HSE ie the government.

BowSideChamp

Shazzler77998 wrote: »

Some of you are so brainwashed, you haven't got a clue.
I'm homeless, and I'm in my late 20s.
I'm not an addict or an alcoholic, infact I don't drink or take drugs.
I'm lucky i'v a friend who's putting me up through this cold weather snap. If it wasn't for them i'd be dieing on the streets.
I'v stayed in alot of the hostels in the city centre,
The Bru, Merchants quay, cedar house, Portobello house, Little Britain to name but a few, you can't blame the staff(well some of them) but you wouldn't let a dog live in them.
Try being sober and homeless, and share a mat on a floor with 30 others, mostly addicts, Gearing up in front of you, leaving needles beside you, defecating and vomiting where you sleep, needle bins in showers and the bathrooms. The little valubles you have are been robbed on a daily basis. Mentally your been put through it by the minute.
You get no help from the local authority, just the usual, "apply for the HAP". I have done and its literally impossible to find a place.
Id rather take my chances on the streets than hostels, I feel safer. They need certain hostels for different types of people. Addicts/alcoholics/mental health and people who are just homeless needs to be seperated into different hostels.
Im homeless because of circumstances , I cant get a job because its been so long since my last one(recession, i was completely unemployed for 6 years), that noone even replys to my CVS. I do cv drops daily, and the looks I get from from some potential employers would leave you not wanting to go again.
If I cant get a job I cant afford somewhere to live. This is modern day Ireland, and its a joke. Those in government are the worst, they dont even care!
All I need is a little help to get me on my feet, a job and a bed. But for the last 6-8 years im being denied this, which accumulated my homlessness.
I probably die on the streets, but i'll die knowing people in government and council knew my situation and did f... all about it.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

Agent Coulson

Shazzler77998 wrote: »

Opportunity/employment. The last recession hit me at a vulnreable time in my life. During that time it was college course after course. And years of no employment.
I go out of my way to find work, but have never been giving the opportunity to work since about 21 years of age. I do c.v handouts daily its all I have to do to pass my time, I do whatever I can to find employment, maybe its the stigma of homelessness, I dont know.
If i'd a job I wouldn't be homeless, i'd be able to afford to rent, to live.
I would rather not live on the streets and possibly freeze to death on a state payment of 191eur a week. But because of the way this country was/is iv no other option.

So you want the government to give you a job.

I hate to tell you this but that's not what governments are for.

It's hard but that is life sadly but you seem to have good friends if they are letting you stay with them that is a start.

gctest50

example here :

https://www.dubsimon.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2016-Finances.pdf


Grants : 7,503,000

Residents contributions : 1,127,000

corner of hells

BowSideChamp wrote: »

Shazzler77998 wrote: »

Some of you are so brainwashed, you haven't got a clue.
I'm homeless, and I'm in my late 20s.
I'm not an addict or an alcoholic, infact I don't drink or take drugs.
I'm lucky i'v a friend who's putting me up through this cold weather snap. If it wasn't for them i'd be dieing on the streets.
I'v stayed in alot of the hostels in the city centre,
The Bru, Merchants quay, cedar house, Portobello house, Little Britain to name but a few, you can't blame the staff(well some of them) but you wouldn't let a dog live in them.
Try being sober and homeless, and share a mat on a floor with 30 others, mostly addicts, Gearing up in front of you, leaving needles beside you, defecating and vomiting where you sleep, needle bins in showers and the bathrooms. The little valubles you have are been robbed on a daily basis. Mentally your been put through it by the minute.
You get no help from the local authority, just the usual, "apply for the HAP". I have done and its literally impossible to find a place.
Id rather take my chances on the streets than hostels, I feel safer. They need certain hostels for different types of people. Addicts/alcoholics/mental health and people who are just homeless needs to be seperated into different hostels.
Im homeless because of circumstances , I cant get a job because its been so long since my last one(recession, i was completely unemployed for 6 years), that noone even replys to my CVS. I do cv drops daily, and the looks I get from from some potential employers would leave you not wanting to go again.
If I cant get a job I cant afford somewhere to live. This is modern day Ireland, and its a joke. Those in government are the worst, they dont even care!
All I need is a little help to get me on my feet, a job and a bed. But for the last 6-8 years im being denied this, which accumulated my homlessness.
I probably die on the streets, but i'll die knowing people in government and council knew my situation and did f... all about it.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

Mother of Jesus.

Mrs OBumble

Dunno about Dublin.

But in Galway the charities which the council contracts to provide homeless services do provide sleeping bags and tents if they are the best option for an individual.

But the people we see in doorways here don't want to move out of them to less lucative locations.

The truly desperate people aren't in shop doorways in the public eye.

Wheeliebin30

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Where do you think the majority of funding for homeless charities come from?


It comes from the government who fund them as they the homeless charities are the best qualified to deal with the homeless issue.


Simon, Peter McVerry, SVP, DePaul, Merchants Quay etc majority funding comes from councils & the HSE ie the government.

Not forgetting the ceo of Peter mcverry is on 100k a year.

Why would you solve the crisis when you could do yourself out of that salary???

corner of hells

gctest50 wrote: »

example here :

https://www.dubsimon.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2016-Finances.pdf


Grants : 7,503,000

Residents contributions : 1,127,000

They do some great work , I know a good few of their staff.
Passionate and dedicated.

Their detox and respite care is second to none along with their efforts to house individuals.