Bayonetta 3 (Bayonetta 1 and 2 on Switch)

sligeach · 08-12-2017 4:25am #1

Bayonetta 3 Official Teaser Trailer - The Game Awards 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-i40Ez6KY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-i40Ez6KY

Bayonetta 2 for Nintendo Switch Trailer - The Game Awards 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SxJGDofOfo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3SxJGDofOfo

panevthe3rd · 08-12-2017 4:34am

Is this the one that will make you buy a Switch?

It's the one that will make me buy a pro controller if I haven't got one by whenever it comes out.

Corholio · 08-12-2017 4:51am

Japan will be receiving a special 'Climax Edition' for Bayonetta 1+2 on Switch. It includes the games, a steelbook case, 22 art cards, and three sticker sheets.

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manual_man · 08-12-2017 5:47am

And some tissues

geotrig · 08-12-2017 8:19am

great looking box !

chrislad · 08-12-2017 8:20am

geotrig wrote: »

great looking box !

That's hardly appropriate!!!!

08-12-2017 9:15am

super_furry · 08-12-2017 9:29am

Great news. Think I'm as happy for the Bayonetta 1 and 2 release as I am for the sequel. Hopefully this is a sign that all the good Wii U games will eventually be getting ported.

johnny_ultimate · 08-12-2017 9:58am

Kudos to Nintendo for continuing to find a series that won't sell very well, but will hopefully continue setting the standard for third person action games.

CastorTroy · 08-12-2017 10:11am

Now to go read all the lovely reactions from non nintendo owners

Pac1Man · 08-12-2017 10:14am

CastorTroy wrote: »

Now to go read all the lovely reactions from non nintendo owners

It's just from people who don't understand the industry. Younger folk I bet.

iamtony · 08-12-2017 10:28am

Will be buying this aswell. 1,2 & 3 never got around to it on the Wii U and I've always wanted too. Great news.

Gunmonkey · 08-12-2017 10:52am

CastorTroy wrote: »

Now to go read all the lovely reactions from non nintendo owners

Dropped into a few comment sections on sites, its like I was teleported back to the Bayo 2 announcement with the amount of salt being flung around!

Well thats 2 more future purchases for me Switch, have the combo pack on WiiU but being able to play it on the go (and maybe even play the Bayo2 MP for once) is too much to miss out on.

earthwormjack · 08-12-2017 11:12am

Corholio wrote: »

Japan will be receiving a special 'Climax Edition' for Bayonetta 1+2 on Switch. It includes the games, a steelbook case, 22 art cards, and three sticker sheets.

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I think Europe is getting something similar but Bayonetta 1 isn't physical in the box.

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch/Bayonetta-2-1313750.html

CiDeRmAn · 08-12-2017 11:35am

manual_man wrote: »

And some tissues

Well, you are manual_man....

Andrew76 · 08-12-2017 12:03pm

Not bothered about all the extra crap in the special edition, just the games will do me. Seeing these getting a Switch release is making it more tempting to get rid of the Wii U entirely.

fixXxer · 08-12-2017 12:09pm

I'm looking forward to playing these for the first time

sligeach · 08-12-2017 12:11pm

I've got to get over buying Special Edition's and First Print Edition's of games. I think things like this help. Stuff like this bothers me, a lot. How much is this going to cost? €100? €120? They're charging €60 for the Bayonetta 2 game on its own, with them saying it comes with a free copy of Bayonetta. It's not free, it's just marketing spin, it's 2 games for €60. And here's this crap again of a partial download.

It's more Wii U ports. So many people saying they "missed" out on Wii U, they didn't miss out, they chose not to buy it. And I say it again, tough $h1t people, you had your chance. I have the First Print Edition and the Collector's Edition on Wii U. They cost a small fortune, especially the FPE, just look on Ebay. I bet this announcement impacts negatively on its value. Nintendo's(and Platinum's) attitude? "Don't care, want more money for little effort".

I think I'm going to buy the games on their own going forward. XC2 being a recent example of a big hike in price from XCX on Wii U for the Collector's Edition. Just look at some of what you get in a lot of these Collector's Editions. Cards and stickers, sure the steelbook is nice but it's mostly cheap tat and then they slap on an extra €60. The last Collector's Edition I bought I think was Samus Returns, that was nice, and I don't even own a 3DS. Gotta stop it.

And I swear some of this digital code practise is to get us more accepting of it. Slowly ween us of physical purchases, buying digital only. No need to then worry about things like retailers, secondhand market, borrowing games, cheaper physical deals. They'll have full control.

Sorry for the rant, just need to vent some of my frustration and anger at the way things are going.

fixXxer · 08-12-2017 12:15pm

And back on the ignore list.

panevthe3rd · 08-12-2017 12:34pm

sligeach wrote: »

I've got to get over buying Special Edition's and First Print Edition's of games. I think things like this help. Stuff like this bothers me, a lot. How much is this going to cost? €100? €120? They're charging €60 for the Bayonetta 2 game on its own, with them saying it comes with a free copy of Bayonetta. It's not free, it's just marketing spin, it's 2 games for €60. And here's this crap again of a partial download.

It's more Wii U ports. So many people saying they "missed" out on Wii U, they didn't miss out, they chose not to buy it. And I say it again, tough $h1t people, you had your chance. I have the First Print Edition and the Collector's Edition on Wii U. They cost a small fortune, especially the FPE, just look on Ebay. I bet this announcement impacts negatively on its value. Nintendo's(and Platinum's) attitude? "Don't care, want more money for little effort".

I think I'm going to buy the games on their own going forward. XC2 being a recent example of a big hike in price from XCX on Wii U for the Collector's Edition. Just look at some of what you get in a lot of these Collector's Editions. Cards and stickers, sure the steelbook is nice but it's mostly cheap tat and then they slap on an extra €60. The last Collector's Edition I bought I think was Samus Returns, that was nice, and I don't even own a 3DS. Gotta stop it.

And I swear some of this digital code practise is to get us more accepting of it. Slowly ween us of physical purchases, buying digital only. No need to then worry about things like retailers, secondhand market, borrowing games, cheaper physical deals. They'll have full control.

Sorry for the rant, just need to vent some of my frustration and anger at the way things are going.

yeah it's more Win U ports but it's ports people want. Yourself included.

Your problems with the cost of special editions are your own. You admit that most of the extras are cheap tat but if people pay the extra then it won't change.

I don't know how you manage to stay at something that stresses you out so much. Meanwhile your missing out on the Switch for your own reasons that you have made clear (cost being one) but spending money on games for systems you don't own.

It's none of my business how you spend your money though.

I don't think there will ever be a fully controlled digital market. Even now you can get switch games digitally from cdkeya about €10 cheaper then the eshop

blockfighter · 08-12-2017 12:41pm

Never played this series so looking forward to picking it up in the new year.
More Wii U ports mixed in with new games is great.

Pac1Man · 08-12-2017 12:42pm

sligeach wrote: »

Sorry for the rant, just need to vent some of my frustration and anger at the way things are going.

I don't know why video games have such a serious impact on you. It should be an enjoyable past-time and not something that causes you anger and frustration. It's not healthy.

CiDeRmAn · 08-12-2017 12:55pm

Not owning a 3DS is just weird, if you are a fan of Nintendo stuff.
Sort it out Sligeach!
Something for the Christmas gift request list!

fixxxer wrote: »

And back on the ignore list.

No, he has a point, imho.

In Sligeach's defence on Special Editions, he does say he needs to sort that issue out with only himself, I mean we can all get taken in by the flash of a sticker set and a steelbook from time to time, but the core experience of the game doesn't change and, after a decade, that's what we remember most.

WiiU ports, personal opinions are just that, personal.
All the interest in WiiU games all of sudden from people who thought the console wasn't worth their time, it is kind of infuriating.
I was saying for ages, in this forum, that the WiiU was an outstanding host to a multitude of strong 1st party games and had far more to offer in exclusives than the PS4 and XB1 combined.
Nevertheless, the ignorant masses ignored the WiiU and now, with the Switch, suddenly become cheerleaders for WiiU ports??
It is hypocritical to say the least.
The WiiU would still be with us if this kind of passion for those exact same games had of been present three short years ago.

But, as they say, we are where we are.
We now have the Switch, with a significant number of owners who have not owned a Nintendo console since the Wii or DS, or perhaps they've never owned a Nintendo console before at all.
This is an untapped resource of buyers that need content on their new Nintendo system, content they are unfamiliar with, that represents for them new and fresh titles, and WiiU games represent that kind of content for a minimal outlay.
Nintendo would be foolish not to tap into that market.

So, cling to your dislike of great games on great consoles being released to those who abandoned the relevant format in the past, but don't cling too hard, this population of buyers will give developers cause to make more genuinely new content for the Switch over it's lifetime, so everyone wins.

Plus, I get to bring Bayonetta with me to work, like a big perv.

super_furry · 08-12-2017 1:03pm

sligeach wrote: »

It's more Wii U ports. So many people saying they "missed" out on Wii U, they didn't miss out, they chose not to buy it. And I say it again, tough $h1t people, you had your chance. I have the First Print Edition and the Collector's Edition on Wii U. They cost a small fortune, especially the FPE, just look on Ebay. I bet this announcement impacts negatively on its value. Nintendo's(and Platinum's) attitude? "Don't care, want more money for little effort".

I chose not to buy it because it was a very poor console, and the first Nintendo system I didn't actually buy, excluding the Virtual Boy. Most people felt the same way, so it's great that the good games that were released for it are coming to a console that people actually want.

I expect we'll see more of this down the line as developers who already put in the hard work to make a good game for a dying system seek to recoup their losses.

First Print Editions, Collector's Edition, Special Editions don't really mean anything to me - just let me play the game on a decent system and I'm happy.

CiDeRmAn · 08-12-2017 1:06pm

super_furry wrote: »

I chose not to buy it because it was a very poor console, and the first Nintendo system I didn't actually buy. Most people felt the same way, so it's great that the good games that were released for it are coming to a console that people actually want.

I expect we'll see more of this down the line as developers who already put in the hard work to make a good game for a dying system seek to recoup their losses.

First Print Editions, Collector's Edition, Special Editions don't really mean anything to me - just let me play the game on a decent system and I'm happy.

Not a poor console though.
Poor marketing, sure.
But the games lineup was outstanding.
Pity they spoiled Star Fox Zero though, the controls weren't insurmountable but they were ultimately a barrier to having fun and that's intolerable in a videogame, when traditional control methods would have worked just as well.

Ace Attorney · 08-12-2017 1:13pm

collectors editions tat aside, i think the wii u ports are a good thing, devs get to make more money from games on a console that didnt sell well and the games are exposed to a larger audience, increase the fan base of the games and encourage more sequels. the wii u should be held in high regard for having those games first, but the games shouldnt be exclusive to the platform that didnt sell.

super_furry · 08-12-2017 1:14pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Not a poor console though.

I disagree. I thought the Gamepad was a awful piece of kit and led to a poor experience all around on the system.

Their confused marketing and messaging around the system didn't help sure, but for me it was fundamentally a poor system which seemed like a load of half thought through ideas thrown together. Honestly I don't think it should have existed and the console we have now, the Switch, was what the successor to the Wii should have been.

I already compared it to the Virtual Boy and that's the comparison that still rings through to me, a half-baked, poor implemented idea.

I can't agree that the games lineup was outstanding either. It had poor support, lacked what people would consider a "proper" Mario and, until it's successor was already out, a proper Zelda game.

The Bayonetta 2 announcement has actually got me thinking about what other Wii U games I'd like to see on Switch and there's really not many. We already have Mario Kart and aside from Pikman 3, Mario 3D World and Mario Maker, there's really not much. The HD Zelda games were ports already and while I'd like to see them on the Switch too, they're not essential when I have them on the Gamecube.

CiDeRmAn · 08-12-2017 1:22pm

A combined Super Mario 3D World and Captain Toad would be nice, tbh.
No more NSMB though!
Mario Maker will certainly make an appearance, but it will be a sequel I'd say.

Ace Attorney · 08-12-2017 2:08pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

A combined Super Mario 3D World and Captain Toad would be nice, tbh.
No more NSMB though!
Mario Maker will certainly make an appearance, but it will be a sequel I'd say.

Personally id love to see Tokyo Mirage Sessions get the love that it deserves with a switch port

fixXxer · 08-12-2017 2:24pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

No, he has a point, imho.
.

He may have a point

but it's hidden beneath such a ridiculous level or bitterness about the Wii U being a failure that I find it Jading to read through.

Anyway, Bayonetta. As I've never played it, is it just Devil May Cry with boobs? I wasn't a big fan of the DMC series so I hoping not.

Retr0gamer · 08-12-2017 2:42pm

fixxxer wrote: »

He may have a point but it's hidden beneath such a ridiculous level or bitterness about the Wii U being a failure that I find it Jading to read through.

Anyway, Bayonetta. As I've never played it, is it just Devil May Cry with boobs? I wasn't a big fan of the DMC series so I hoping not.

It's an evolution of DMC so if you didn't like then you might not like Bayonetta.

Mr.Saturn · 08-12-2017 2:57pm

super_furry wrote: »

The Bayonetta 2 announcement has actually got me thinking about what other Wii U games I'd like to see on Switch and there's really not many. We already have Mario Kart and aside from Pikman 3, Mario 3D World and Mario Maker, there's really not much. The HD Zelda games were ports already and while I'd like to see them on the Switch too, they're not essential when I have them on the Gamecube.

Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze deserves a bigger audience too. Such a wonderful game. Nintendo are known to make reliable hardware too, so a Switch could probably survive a couple temper-tantrum slams.

Was only recently looking to get into Bayonetta on the Wii U, so may as well hold off for this. Imagine the non-Nintendo owner reactions must be especially irked given OG Bayonetta's enjoyed something of a resurgence due to its recent PC port.

Corholio · 08-12-2017 3:04pm

I don't get the preciousness around the Wii U, it was a console that ultimately failed because of quite a few reasons. Criticising people for not buying it yet pointing out all it's flaws over a period of time is a complete hypocrisy. I personally don't find it annoying at all that people didn't buy or support these games on the Wii U etc, gamers will buy what they want and what they like, if these games didn't suit them on the Wii U, how can that be criticised? Why would people spend money on something that they didn't want to buy? It's ridiculous to suggest that it's a 'tough luck' or whatever. I had a Wii U, I bought games for it and played them and enjoyed them. That is all you are entitled as a consumer, we are not entitled to some sort of collectors edition protection because you chose to buy a product when it was out. Choosing it to hold or gain value is completely your decision.

Sick of reading the same stuff after every release like this.

iamtony · 08-12-2017 4:48pm

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze deserves a bigger audience too. Such a wonderful game. Nintendo are known to make reliable hardware too, so a Switch could probably survive a couple temper-tantrum slams.

Was only recently looking to get into Bayonetta on the Wii U, so may as well hold off for this. Imagine the non-Nintendo owner reactions must be especially irked given OG Bayonetta's enjoyed something of a resurgence due to its recent PC port.

I want tropical freeze. I rage sold it before completion and I still have dreams of finishing it.

Banjo · 08-12-2017 4:55pm

Corholio wrote: »

Sick of reading the same stuff after every release like this.

That is a two way street though. Possibly with a signal controlled roundabout at either end.

Corholio · 08-12-2017 5:18pm

Banjo wrote: »

That is a two way street though. Possibly with a signal controlled roundabout at either end.

Roundabout is right :P

NyOmnishambles · 08-12-2017 5:39pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It's an evolution of DMC so if you didn't like then you might not like Bayonetta.

Have never played Bayonetta (though may have bought it for the 360) but I have played most of the DMC games and enjoyed them so I am sold

sligeach · 12-12-2017 9:50pm

BAYONETTA 1 & 2 ON SWITCH RETAIN 720P FROM THEIR WII U RELEASES

http://m.filmweb.pl/news/Bayonetta+i+Bayonetta+2+na+Switcha+bez+1080p-126184

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/7jbzkd/bayonetta_12_on_switch_only_in_720p/

These ports seem like low level efforts, yet they've no qualms slapping full price tags on them. That's 720p both docked and in handheld. And let's not forget that the original game is a download code.

Corholio · 12-12-2017 10:40pm

The Bayonetta information comes from a very vague and unreliable source, will wait for better sources. 720 is fine with Bayonetta's artstyle anyway, renders really well. I think it'll be a bit higher docked though.

CiDeRmAn · 12-12-2017 11:26pm

Don't give a monkeys about the resolution myself, I already own the games on WiiU, I think this will be the definitive edition and worth owning but it'll be a double dip on Bayonetta 2 and quadruple dip on the original!
And the most important news is the new Bayonetta title, which is a massive deal.