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SJW campaign leads to porn star suicide.

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    #242
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So --- the same as your pointing out grammar mistakes, then? ;)

    No, mine was merely an observation after the fact.

    Anyways, I'm done. This whole thread is done. You're all just talking ****e like I am.


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    #243
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    I am not refusing a porn star's right to deny working with someone. But when the decision is based on homophobia I think it's fair to call her a homophobe. She really didn't need to transmit a personal work matter with the whole internet. It was silly, at best. And it's very sad she killed herself over it.

    Oh please. So if Kevin Spacey drops the hand on me I'm supposed to let him as anything else is homophobic? There is so much frighteningly wrong with your reasoning. I think not wanting to have sex with a gay man is valid for health and safety reasons, for the same reasons you might consider not having sex with a heroin addict ... the risk of HIV is higher.


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    #244
    major bill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    If they guy is working in straight porn - he is subject to the same testing as all straight porn actors. That is the crux here. She refused to work with him based on here deep seeded fears and prejudices. End of.

    I'm out this garbage pile.

    You created this Garbage pile tbf


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    #245
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    No, mine was merely an observation after the fact.

    Anyways, I'm done. This whole thread is done. You're all just talking ****e like I am.

    Nope, you were doing it to belittle.


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    #246
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    professore wrote: »
    Oh please. So if Kevin Spacey drops the hand on me I'm supposed to let him as anything else is homophobic? There is so much frighteningly wrong with your reasoning.

    Conflating rape with porn. Strawman argument.

    Anyways, I really have to go this time.


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    #247
    gctest50
    Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    I am not refusing a porn star's right to deny working with someone. But when the decision is based on homophobia I think it's fair to call her a homophobe. .........

    Her refusing was not based on homophobia - it was based on this :



    NoelleEaston����‏ @NoelleEaston

    Replying to @MJg0at23 @AugustAmesxxx @EroticaXNews

    Gay performers do not have to follow the rigorous testing protocol straight performers must go through every 14 days making it EXTREMELY dangerous to work with them & then go back into ****ing straight performers after




    Jay Taylor‏ @Yippieskip Dec 3




    Replying to @NoelleEaston @MJg0at23


    and Anyone shooting straight porn follows this protocol





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    #248
    RayM
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    GarIT wrote: »
    I would never have sex with a man that has had sex with another man, does that make me a homophobe?

    I would never have sex with a woman who has had sex with a man because that would mean that my penis has touched something that his penis touched, which would vicariously make me gay.


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    #249
    [Deleted User]
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    RayM wrote: »
    I would never have sex with a woman who has had sex with a man because that would mean that my penis has touched something that his penis touched, which would vicariously make me gay.

    HOMOPHOBE!

    OK - how big can this go?


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    #250
    Permabear
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    #251
    JackTaylorFan
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    gctest50 wrote: »
    Her refusing was not based on homophobia - it was based on this :

    "Anyone shooting straight porn follows this protocal"

    Was this not my point?

    Learn to comprehend, people.


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    #252
    Saruhashi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi


    RayM wrote: »
    I would never have sex with a woman who has had sex with a man because that would mean that my penis has touched something that his penis touched, which would vicariously make me gay.

    It wouldn't really. You can't become gay vicariously.

    This doesn't even make any sense.


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    #253
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    GarIT wrote: »
    I would never have sex with a man that has had sex with another man, does that make me a homophobe?
    In my book, no - of course not but in that scenario you are not in the workplace and therefore the decision would not come under equality legislation. There is an undefined line between acceptable and unacceptable discrimination. where is the cut off point? does a male stripper have to book a gig for a gay chap's surprise birthday party even if it would make him uncomfortable to shake is booty in front of a loads of cat calling men? does a b&b owner have to let a gay couple stay in their home even if they're uncomfortable with it?
    Without the instinct to be discriminatory and prejudiced the human species would have been wiped out before we learned how to make fire. it is an innate part of our evolutionary make up that is taboo and forbidden in modern society and I think we really struggle with dealing with it.


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    #254
    silverharp
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    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    If they guy is working in straight porn - he is subject to the same testing as all straight porn actors. That is the crux here. She refused to work with him based on here deep seeded fears and prejudices. End of.

    I'm out this garbage pile.

    if she felt safer ruling out men who do gay porn, that's her choice.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #255
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Nope. Follow closely. I am arguing about discrimination in the work place.

    I know, I'm leaving...


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    #256
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    Lol... Spraying some fine ass bull**** here.

    I'm sure you watch porn for the Shakespearean level acting and not the ****ing part too, then?


    You're making a gross assumption in assuming I even watch porn in the first place, and secondly - I don't support any form of exploitation, and I would support anyone who was speaking out against attempts to exploit them, regardless of their job description.

    You appear to think it should be acceptable to exploit people for any reason you can use to justify your own prejudices against them.


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    #257
    RayM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    It wouldn't really. You can't become gay vicariously.

    This doesn't even make any sense.

    Your penis has touched something that their penis has touched. Which essentially means you've touched their penis... with your penis.

    If that's not gay, then I don't know what is.


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    #258
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    silverharp wrote: »
    if she felt safer ruling out men who do gay porn, that's her choice.

    Again, homophobia. We have now, thanks to somebody's gracious copying of a tweet, established in this thread that all actors in straight porn adhere to the same protocol in regards testing. This voids the original claim from the actress completely. Her reasoning was therefore entirely based on a prejudice.

    Thank you and bonne nuit.


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    #259
    [Deleted User]
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    RayM wrote: »
    Your penis has touched something that their penis has touched. Which essentially means you've touched their penis... with your penis.

    If that's not gay, then I don't know what is.

    It's only gay if the balls touch.


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    #260
    Rory28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    RayM wrote: »
    Your penis has touched something that their penis has touched. Which essentially means you've touched their penis... with your penis.

    If that's not gay, then I don't know what is.

    Its only gay if you enjoy the thought of it and then go out and have real gay sex.
    Unless you say no homo of course. Then its bro jobs all around. Nothing gay about helping a bro.


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    #261
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    RayM wrote: »
    Your penis has touched something that their penis has touched. Which essentially means you've touched their penis... with your penis.

    If that's not gay, then I don't know what is.

    This is foolproof logic, right here :pac:


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    #262
    Mutant z
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    There's no way of knowing what exactly caused her too take her own life she may of had underlining unresolved issues and this just tipped her over the edge its very tragic either way RIP.


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    #263
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    In my book, no - of course not but in that scenario you are not in the workplace and therefore the decision would not come under equality legislation. There is an undefined line between acceptable and unacceptable discrimination. where is the cut off point? does a male stripper have to book a gig for a gay chap's surprise birthday party even if it would make him uncomfortable to shake is booty in front of a loads of cat calling men? does a b&b owner have to let a gay couple stay in their home even if they're uncomfortable with it?
    Without the instinct to be discriminatory and prejudiced the human species would have been wiped out before we learned how to make fire. it is an innate part of our evolutionary make up that is taboo and forbidden in modern society and I think we really struggle with dealing with it.

    It's a sad day when you are looking to the porn industry for ethical and moral compasses - but that's where we are.


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    #264
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    You're making a gross assumption in assuming I even watch porn in the first place

    Lol..

    Pull the other one...

    Oh wait... never mind...


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    #265
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    It's a sad day when you are looking to the porn industry for ethical and moral compasses - but that's where we are.

    This is the long goodbye, somebody tell me why...


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    #266
    Rory28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    It's a sad day when you are looking to the porn industry for ethical and moral compasses - but that's where we are.

    Ah now here. I'll have you know the fine gentlemen at barelylegalteens.com hold to the highest and most stringent moral standards in any industry.


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    #267
    Permabear
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    #268
    cantdecide
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    JackTaylorFan wrote: »
    Lol..

    Pull the other one...

    Oh wait... never mind...

    LAST!

    It's more usual to declare 'first' on the internet.


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    #269
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    Rory28 wrote: »
    Ah now here. I'll have you know the fine gentlemen at barelylegalteens.com hold to the highest and most stringent moral standards in any industry.

    I plead ignorance on the matter of barelylegalteens.com


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    #270
    suicide_circus
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    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    Once sex is a business and business is covered by legislation the lines become blurred, do they not.


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    #271
    JackTaylorFan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Nope. Not what I argued. And anyways, I've made my case. I've destroyed you all. I'm now celebrating a win. Cheers.


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