Ring Doorbell

digitaldr

First generation Ring doorbell down to £100 argos uk. Same price in Currys UK but I don't think they're as Parcelmotel friendly.

Amazingly it works out the same at €120 in Argos Ireland - thanks Bazual. I tried cancelling my UK order but it was too late. I have a spare Jervis St reservation if anyone wants it - 3 left

Apparently you need a pretty strong WiFi signal at your front door for it to work properly.

bazual

digitaldr wrote: »

First generation Ring doorbell down to £100 argos uk. Same price in Currys UK but I don't think they're as Parcelmotel friendly.

AFAIK they ship from the nearest store - I ordered one last night from Argos so should be delivered to NI Parcelmotel today.

€120 on the Irish Argos site. Reserved one in local Argos so looks to be stock around. Thanks OP

https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5584868.htm

mad m

digitaldr wrote: »

First generation Ring doorbell down to £100 argos uk. Same price in Currys UK but I don't think they're as Parcelmotel friendly.

AFAIK they ship from the nearest store - I ordered one last night from Argos so should be delivered to NI Parcelmotel today.

Is there a subscription with the app?

bazual

mad m wrote: »

Is there a subscription with the app?

Its free but if you want to store the videos etc you can pay a subscription. 30 dollars a year.
Its all in the below link.

https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001671383-Frequently-Asked-Questions-About-Ring-Protect-Plan-Subscription-Plans

digitaldr

Something else to bear in mind:

The Ring Doorbell isn’t like a normal doorbell–it doesn’t need to be wired to your existing system (though it can be). Instead, it’s a battery-powered device that can operate independently and wirelessly, and you can even get a handful of Wi-Fi-connected chimes (sold separately) to plug in all around your house. If you aren’t wiring it into your existing system, you’ll want to get the doorbell and the $30 Chime to ensure you hear the doorbell when it’s rung.

digitaldr

Historic low alright

givecredit

digitaldr wrote: »

Historic low alright

Try Amazon warehouse. I got one for 70 Euro last night. They still doing 20 per cent off

EGriff

Reserved one for a present. Cheers OP.

mrcheez

givecredit wrote: »

Try Amazon warehouse. I got one for 70 Euro last night. They still doing 20 per cent off

Another gadget I never thought I'd need, but well...sod it

How do you secure it to your front door?

It works with Echo right?

givecredit

mrcheez wrote: »

Another gadget I never thought I'd need, but well...sod it

How do you secure it to your front door?

It works with Echo right?

Same as that.

You can use screws to secure or the supplied sticky back. It can be wired to your existing electric doorbell wires.

Yes Echo works.

rom

Before you buy this put the phone on the wall exactly where you are going to be putting the doorbell. Turn off your phone data connection and then see if wifi works. Do a speed test.

Honestly I have an access point setup like 4 meters from it and its still not great coverage. It looks good in the videos but its not a great piece of kit. I have the latest one and there is a know issue with it and wifi that you need to put it on channel 6 I sh*t u not to workaround it. Channel 6 is probably the worst if you have any BT devices working also.

Would I buy it again. Maybe. Its never fast enough so I can answer the door. The servers take 30 secs to connect when it rings. Get the PoE one if you have an option. The wifi ones are just good so you can see who called. 3$ a month for the sub is a must or otherwise its a pointless device.

digitaldr

Cheapest on Amazon warehouse now works out at €100 for the brass version.

masterK

rom wrote: »

Before you buy this put the phone on the wall exactly where you are going to be putting the doorbell. Turn off your phone data connection and then see if wifi works. Do a speed test.

Honestly I have an access point setup like 4 meters from it and its still not great coverage. It looks good in the videos but its not a great piece of kit. I have the latest one and there is a know issue with it and wifi that you need to put it on channel 6 I sh*t u not to workaround it. Channel 6 is probably the worst if you have any BT devices working also.

Would I buy it again. Maybe. Its never fast enough so I can answer the door. The servers take 30 secs to connect when it rings. Get the PoE one if you have an option. The wifi ones are just good so you can see who called. 3$ a month for the sub is a must or otherwise its a pointless device.

What's the live stream like? Is it stable?

mrcheez

givecredit wrote: »

Same as that.

You can use screws to secure or the supplied sticky back. It can be wired to your existing electric doorbell wires.

Yes Echo works.

How does it work with Echo?

Can you talk through your Echo Dot?

I dont walk around the house with my phone, but I can use Echo throughout. Handy if you are getting changed after a shower or otherwise occupied

mrcheez

digitaldr wrote: »

Cheapest on Amazon warehouse now works out at €100 for the brass version.

I went for a Like New one for €106, just to be sure the battery is brand new.

Nice deal thanks for the tips all.

With this and the Hue lights, I've now upped the IQ on my house

DopeTech

These look nice but without the monthly subscription they are kind of useless. Is there a way to save video locally instead to a NAS or to Google drive or something instead?

mrcheez

Sir Dosser wrote: »

These look nice but without the monthly subscription they are kind of useless.

I don't think you need the monthly subscription in order to stream video or get notification when someone approaches your door?

The main thing I will use this for is to be notified when someone is passing by the door, or delivering parcels etc and I'm not there.

Far as I know, the subscription is only for recording?


This confirms it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ringdoorbell/comments/5krjdf/ring_doorbell_without_subscription/

yannakis

How long does the battery last? Is it replaceable or rechargeable?

dodzy

yannakis wrote: »

How long does the battery last? Is it replaceable or rechargeable?

6-12mths. It's rechargeable.

mrcheez

Apart from battery running out, do you lose any functionality by relying on battery alone?

Heard something was disabled but then reenabled in later firmware.

I'm thinking of leaving my existing doorbell alone and then use motion detector on this one as the trigger

SteM

dodzy wrote: »

6-12mths. It's rechargeable.

The battery on ours lasts nowhere close to 12 months - 3 or 4 months at the tops. Totally depends on how senesitive the motion dection is set to, how often the bell is used etc.

mrcheez wrote: »

Apart from battery running out, do you lose any functionality by relying on battery alone?

Heard something was disabled but then reenabled in later firmware.

I'm thinking of leaving my existing doorbell alone and then use motion detector on this one as the trigger

Not aware of any limitations when you use the battery, I've never noticed anything anyway.

The motion detection is pretty poor to be honest. There is a real delay between it detecting motion and notification/recording on our one. We've had many instances of someone being at the door and halfway back down the drive before recording kicks in, just getting the backs of their head.

ozmo

rom wrote: »

...Its never fast enough so I can answer the door. The servers take 30 secs to connect when it rings....

wow! - does that mean a potential 30 second lag between when they ring and you hear it on the iphone?

Davy

ozmo wrote: »

wow! - does that mean a potential 30 second lag between when they ring and you hear it on the iphone?

That's not the experience for me. It has had its problems, but overall they are a good piece of kit.


Plenty of info in the home automation forum if you want to read a wider experience. Just make sure of the difference between Pro VS wireless

Etnies

Shocking reviews on Amazon was looking at it myself on Argos this morning.

mrcheez

Etnies wrote: »

Shocking reviews on Amazon was looking at it myself on Argos this morning.

I'll already start the chat with support... this wasn't as expected etc... can't post back...full refund ...yadda yadda

Third_Echelon

I have the new version of this... Ring Video Doorbell 2.

I have it in place for a few months at this stage and it is very good. You will need a good wifi signal. If not, there is a wifi extender 'chime pro' that will make it easier. It also has the chime built in, which is handy.

Definitely not a 30 second lag to answer. Video quality is good too.

bromley52

Nest have a doorbell coming out in January. I'm going to wait and check it out before purchasing.

ozmo

Or free for those with even an older Raspberry Pi doing nothing...

http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Smart-Home-Doorbell-for-Less-Than-40/

possibly no subs to pay this way either

digitaldr

Installed my ring this morning :eek: Actually very pleased with it - I'd done my research and it works as expected. Wifi is a bit weak outside my front door so I have a powerline wifi extender in the sitting room with a dedicated network just for the ring as it would be slower than my main network in the house. I don't think I'll bother with the motion detection as will be moving house soon and plan to install a proper CCTV system. Also picked up a chime - set to jingle bells at the moment!

CFC007

Did it arrive with everything? First I noticed it was a little bit damaged which was okay they refunded 10%. Was just going to install and the battery is missing. Back it goes

givecredit wrote: »

Try Amazon warehouse. I got one for 70 Euro last night. They still doing 20 per cent off

givecredit

CFC007 wrote: »

Did it arrive with everything? First I noticed it was a little bit damaged which was okay they refunded 10%. Was just going to install and the battery is missing. Back it goes

Luckily mine arrived yesterday in as new condition. Everything still in it's packaging.

rom

masterK wrote: »

What's the live stream like? Is it stable?

Yeah its stable alright. You can zoom in also which is nice.

ozmo wrote: »

wow! - does that mean a potential 30 second lag between when they ring and you hear it on the iphone?

You hear it on the phone straight away but before the video connects its very slow.

I have virgin BB with 24Mbit upload and access point like 10 feet from it line of sight as its a bay window. It still says wifi is poor at times.

Its only handy to see that someone called. Its like 20 secs lag to see that someone is there for me. I am using the android app on 4G or wifi at work. The OS X desktop app has the same issue so its simply there server is pants.

I see others have less of a lag. My house is quite new and probably has some foil wrap. It does cause issues with some phone networks like 3 so it could be down to me but defo check with your phone outside with the front door closed and all other doors closed to give the worst scenario for wifi.

Here is that issue. It looks like they have fixed it. crazy it ever existed https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004734423-My-Ring-Device-is-Having-Trouble-With-My-Wi-Fi-Signal-EU-UK-or-AUS-NZ

mrcheez

My access point will be 1ft away from my doorbell.

If it complains about bad wifi there it's going back!

J.pilkington

I had this before upgrading to the pro one. As mentioned this one is poor enough, how I would summarise is it was their first product and they they were under pressure to bring a product to market and probably rushed it, they learnt loads from feedback and applied their learnings, so this is almost a beta product.

I would like to say, those of you who have bought and didn’t read the advice will probably be disappointed as expectations would have been high, however don’t let it put you off this brand, the pro is really a great product.

mrcheez

Just curious, would An Post leave a parcel at my front door if I spoke to them over the video, or do they always have to deliver to a person?

Similarly with my actual doorbell delivery, I won't be here when it's delivered ironically, so can I leave a note on my door asking them to leave it on the doorstep?

Safe cul de sac so boxes on porch won't be visible.

rom

mrcheez wrote: »

Just curious, would An Post leave a parcel at my front door if I spoke to them over the video, or do they always have to deliver to a person?

Similarly with my actual doorbell delivery, I won't be here when it's delivered ironically, so can I leave a note on my door asking them to leave it on the doorstep?

Safe cul de sac so boxes on porch won't be visible.

Nah you will have to sign for it.

mrcheez

rom wrote: »

Nah you will have to sign for it.

Hmm haven't had to sign for the other 9 Amazon deliveries I've had the past two weeks

11214

rom wrote: »

Nah you will have to sign for it.

I never have to sign for mine, the postie just leaves them in a safe spot.

mrcheez

Arrived earlier than scheduled so received it today.

Packaging on my Like New one seems a little damaged. Hopefully everything is working, but I reckon I'll get onto them regarding the like new description.

mrcheez

Holy crap, this thing is huge!

I thought from the pics that it was just slightly larger than your average doorbell.

Bit scuffed too... time to get onto Amazon about a partial refund...

J.pilkington

mrcheez wrote: »

Holy crap, this thing is huge!

I thought from the pics that it was just slightly larger than your average doorbell.

Bit scuffed too... time to get onto Amazon about a partial refund...

Sounds like you have had buyers remorse from the day you ordered and you are going to try and pull a fast one on amazon and have them partially refund you (all your posts to date have the tone of I’m going to find something wrong and get a partial refund)?

Please don’t abuse their goodwill or genuine people with genuine product issues will lose out.

Lord Spence

Oh behave yourself! His money his purchase, if he deems 1 or all his purchases unacceptable in terms of the amazon description then he is entitled to complain. I recently bought 2 items as new and bother clearly werent in an as new state.

mrcheez

J.pilkington wrote: »

Sounds like you have had buyers remorse from the day you ordered and you are going to try and pull a fast one on amazon and have them partially refund you (all your posts to date have the tone of I’m going to find something wrong and get a partial refund)?

Please don’t abuse their goodwill or genuine people with genuine product issues will lose out.

Description was "Like New" and I purposely avoided buying one of the cheaper ones that said they were scuffed, so it's not sold as described.

mrcheez

Amazon Support.

A great bunch of lads. £19 back by asking nicely.

one4one

Picked one up from Argos last week 1st gen Ring. Did anyone get one from Argos and notice something strange on the box?

Under specifications, mine says its a 1080p camera!!

Of course, it's not its 720p. Bit weird.

mrcheez

one4one wrote: »

Picked one up from Argos last week 1st gen Ring. Did anyone get one from Argos and notice something strange on the box?

Under specifications, mine says its a 1080p camera!!

Of course, it's not its 720p. Bit weird.

Mine says 720p. Weird.

one4one

mrcheez wrote: »

Mine says 720p. Weird.

I asked to see the ring doorbell first before I bought it. When I saw it was 1080p I taught it wasn't a bad buy for that spec.

But I course when I download any vids there all 720. Contacted ring because I was completely confused. They told me some third party retailers change the packaging which I taught was weird too as I explained to them this is printed on the box.

They offered me a free month of cloud storage.

bk

one4one wrote: »

I asked to see the ring doorbell first before I bought it. When I saw it was 1080p I taught it wasn't a bad buy for that spec.

But I course when I download any vids there all 720. Contacted ring because I was completely confused. They told me some third party retailers change the packaging which I taught was weird too as I explained to them this is printed on the box.

They offered me a free month of cloud storage.

That is like €3, not very generous!

You know that this is a clear case of false advertising and you would be entitled to a full refund, if you want.

one4one

bk wrote: »

That is like €3, not very generous!

You know that this is a clear case of false advertising and you would be entitled to a full refund, if you want.

I feel a bit cheated as I was sold the 1080p camera. I'm not happy with Ring who tried to push the blame on the retailer. Maybe I should put a bit more pressure on them.

I know Argos will probably give me a credit note but I still need to fork out more for the ring 2 or Pro to get a 1080p camera which I taught I had paid for in the first place.

bromley52

one4one wrote: »

I feel a bit cheated as I was sold the 1080p camera. I'm not happy with Ring who tried to push the blame on the retailer. Maybe I should put a bit more pressure on them.

I know Argos will probably give me a credit note but I still need to fork out more for the ring 2 or Pro to get a 1080p camera which I taught I had paid for in the first place.

Put it back in the box and return it to Argos. They will give money back no problem

Lord Spence

one4one wrote: »

I feel a bit cheated as I was sold the 1080p camera. I'm not happy with Ring who tried to push the blame on the retailer. Maybe I should put a bit more pressure on them.

I know Argos will probably give me a credit note but I still need to fork out more for the ring 2 or Pro to get a 1080p camera which I taught I had paid for in the first place.

Apparently the 1080p makes very little difference according to reviews I read plus the ring 1 actually has a wider field of view compared to the ring 2.