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Gerry Adams to announce retirement from President of Sinn Fein

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    #62
    0ph0rce0
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    I would too.

    But Im not presenting myself as the champion of the working man / hero of the ordinary people and sticking it to the "elites". ;)

    Fair point, Still if you had the chance to go business you would. Working man or not.


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    #63
    Jawgap
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    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Fair point, Still if you had the chance to go business you would. Working man or not.

    Not an option for most people and definitely not for someone on the average industrial wage - isn't that what GA is supposed to be on as an SF rep?


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    #64
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    So when is the leadership election? Will there only be a single candidate?

    And then when does Mary Lou take over :pac:


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    #65
    snowflaker
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    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Doubt it. Your health is No.1. I'd find it hard to believe if anyone was sick no matter who are you wouldn't care, You'd be off in a shot

    I don’t though. So I have no issue appearing two faced


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    #66
    Hitman3000
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    snowflaker wrote:
    Interesting himself and mugabe both announce their intentions to stand down on the same day. 34 years... wow sounds democratic


    Mugabe I doubt came to the decision on his own.
    As for Gerry maybe the Army council had a word but doubtful.


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    #67
    0ph0rce0
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    Not an option for most people and definitely not for someone on the average industrial wage - isn't that what GA is supposed to be on as an SF rep?

    They have representatives who fly coach to america all the time, The miles build up. it costs nothing sure.

    Everyone in sinn fein gets the same wage every week sure he's posted his bank statements online


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    #68
    blanch152
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    FCIM wrote: »
    Arguably Ireland's greatest ever politician and statesman.


    Huh? Him and Jackie Healy-Rae are about equal in their positive contribution to Irish political life.

    However, he does beat the bould Jackie in terms of having a bigger negative contribution.

    I cannot think of a single achievement of Gerry Adams in government, oops, he was never in government, just like Jackie Healy-Rae.

    Let me see, he did look after his friends and relatives (remember he found that job for Liam in Louth when nobody in the North would hire him) just like the Healy-Raes look after each other.

    He made some colourful fanciful speeches, just like like the bould Jackie and climate change.

    Yes, our Gerry is right up there with the greats of Killorglin.


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    #69
    snowflaker
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    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    They have representatives who fly coach to america all the time, The miles build up. it costs nothing sure.

    Everyone in sinn fein gets the same wage every week sure he's posted his bank statements online

    Surely they’d print them off???


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    #70
    One_Of_Shanks
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    FCIM wrote: »
    Arguably Ireland's greatest ever politician and statesman.

    Haha, best of luck with that.

    Not a political person myself. Passing interest at best. But hes been around so long that the thread title caught my attention.

    I can't stomach FG and Leo at all, too Nanny state for me. Not gone on FF either.

    So out of the rest it's always been a toss-up for me. Main thing stopping me from voting SF would have been Mr. Adams.
    So its good news imo. Probably will help the party swing a good few undecided voters like myself.

    An intelligent man for sure but way too heavily linked to the Ra and good riddance imho, the party will be better for it.

    As for Irelands greatest ever statesman yer having a laugh right?


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    #71
    0ph0rce0
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    I don’t though. So I have no issue appearing two faced

    If your sick and you need to go US. The only flight left is business class. You'll get it whether your broke or not. I'm not saying his was life threatening I couldn't care but if your's was you'd find a way.

    Stop taking dirt.


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    #72
    Jawgap
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    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    They have representatives who fly coach to america all the time, The miles build up. it costs nothing sure.

    Everyone in sinn fein gets the same wage every week sure he's posted his bank statements online

    Really? I thought Billy Flynn paid for the surgery and Friends of SF paid for the business class ticket?

    Nice to have friends like that.


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    #73
    0ph0rce0
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    Surely they’d print them off???

    I'm sure just like me and you they do??


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    #74
    0ph0rce0
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    Really? I thought Billy Flynn paid for the surgery and Friends of SF paid for the business class ticket?

    Nice to have friends like that.

    I'm sure it is, Would you not let me pay for your surgery if you were dying. Again not that I know that he was dying but you would.


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    #75
    Berserker
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    So he has hinted that he is planning on "retiring" for the nth time. Don't know why but I get the feeling that this has been released to counter the 2%-3% gain the Leo will have taken from that Sun article today. I think we all know that Adams will stop pulling the strings in SF when he dies. Can't afford to retire, health care in the USA is very expensive as are Aer Lingus business class flights to the USA.


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    #76
    tomwaterford
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    Berserker wrote: »
    So he has hinted that he is planning on "retiring" for the nth time. Don't know why but I get the feeling that this has been released to counter the 2%-3% gain the Leo will have taken from that Sun article today. I think we all know that Adams will stop pulling the strings in SF when he dies. Can't afford to retire, health care in the USA is very expensive as are Aer Lingus business class flights to the USA.
    He has said he's not running for reelection and is his last Ard deis as president



    Are yous just outraged without watching it :D:D:D


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    #77
    FrancieBrady
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    Berserker wrote: »
    . I think we all know that Adams will stop pulling the strings in SF when he dies.

    He hasn't died yet so I would say that's a guess. :rolleyes:


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    uck51js9zml2yt
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    FCIM wrote: »
    Arguably Ireland's greatest ever politician and statesman.

    Very arguable or as many would say, one of the greatest organisers of violence against innocent people.!


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    #79
    maccored
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    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Mugabe I doubt came to the decision on his own.
    As for Gerry maybe the Army council had a word but doubtful.

    army council? the fairyland talk around here is just hilarious. It'll be interesting to see what happens when the special ard fheis is announced and the new president is elected. SF might get even more popular, and there'll be many a poster on this thread that'll feel sick about it.


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    #80
    One_Of_Shanks
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    He hasn't died yet so I would say that's a guess. :rolleyes:

    I'd say he's aware that he hasn't passed on yet. And it's called an assumption.


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    #81
    FCIM
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    Huh? Him and Jackie Healy-Rae are about equal in their positive contribution to Irish political life.

    However, he does beat the bould Jackie in terms of having a bigger negative contribution.

    I cannot think of a single achievement of Gerry Adams in government, oops, he was never in government, just like Jackie Healy-Rae.

    Let me see, he did look after his friends and relatives (remember he found that job for Liam in Louth when nobody in the North would hire him) just like the Healy-Raes look after each other.

    He made some colourful fanciful speeches, just like like the bould Jackie and climate change.

    Yes, our Gerry is right up there with the greats of Killorglin.

    Yeah... Jackie Healy-Rae was absolutely fundamental in bringing about the peace process :rolleyes:.


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    tomwaterford
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    maccored wrote: »
    army council? the fairyland talk around here is just hilarious. It'll be interesting to see what happens when the special ard fheis is announced and the new president is elected. SF might get even more popular, and there'll be many a poster on this thread that'll feel sick about it.

    Hope they pick someone youngish for 10 -15 years leadership

    >>maybe needs new thread


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    #83
    maccored
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    Derek Great Fingernail wrote: »
    Very arguable or as many would say, one of the greatest organisers of violence against innocent people.!

    aye, sure rewrite history while yer at it.


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    #84
    Berserker
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    He has said he's not running for reelection and is his last Ard deis as president

    Are yous just outraged without watching it :D:D:D

    Believe it when I see it. Would you be surprised if he did a 'u' turn?


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    #85
    maccored
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Hope they pick someone youngish for 10 -15 years leadership

    >>maybe needs new thread

    it's a year away anyway I'd say


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    #86
    Hitman3000
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    blanch152 wrote:
    Huh? Him and Jackie Healy-Rae are about equal in their positive contribution to Irish political life.


    I have no truck with SF but seriously cop on, Adams had a pivotal rule in the peace process as much as that may irk you it's a fact. He's no angel but he had a hand in ending the slaughter in the north.


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    #87
    maccored
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    Berserker wrote: »
    Believe it when I see it. Would you be surprised if he did a 'u' turn?

    considering he's jsut told a packed crowd he wasnt, I'd be very surprised. How many U turns have you seen adams doing? zero as far as I can see


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    #88
    Berserker
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    FCIM wrote: »
    Yeah... Jackie Healy-Rae was absolutely fundamental in bringing about the peace process :rolleyes:.

    Unfair. Healy-Rae got countless roads, schools etc built for the people of Kerry.


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    #89
    tomwaterford
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    FCIM wrote: »
    Yeah... Jackie Healy-Rae was absolutely fundamental in bringing about the peace process :rolleyes:.

    Haters gonna hate

    There all only sickened after generations of mud slinging at adams etc

    Hes retiring on own terms,and still held internationally respected as a statesman....how many other irish/european politians took part in a gaurd of honour for Mandela


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    #90
    Hitman3000
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    maccored wrote:
    army council? the fairyland talk around here is just hilarious. It'll be interesting to see what happens when the special ard fheis is announced and the new president is elected. SF might get even more popular, and there'll be many a poster on this thread that'll feel sick about it.


    I have no loyalty to any party. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevant. I have family living in the north and a lot of experience of life up there. Gerry denied membership of the RA and that's fine the Queens intelligence services couldn't find proof to the contrary but there is no way the hard men of the RA listened to a lad outside of the organisation. I do however recognise his contribution to the peace process and hope he enjoys his retirement but he is along with several of friends responsible for others never getting to see a retirement.


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    #91
    Berserker
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    maccored wrote: »
    considering he's jsut told a packed crowd he wasnt, I'd be very surprised. How many U turns have you seen adams doing? zero as far as I can see

    I'll start with a very simple one. One of many. I'll leave you be to think of the rest. One of SF personal favourites, water charges.


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