International Men's Day

PeterParker957

International Men’s Day is coming up and my workplace has just sent out a notification.

Two things: firstly the focus on the day is “men’s role in the family and childcare”.

Why not focus on the fact that the leading cause of death in young men is suicide ? Why not look at the inequality in family courts where women are almost universally given custody ? Why not examine that domestic violence against men or sexual abuse of male teenagers by older women is not taken as seriously as if it were the other way round ?

Secondly, and rather sadly predictably – the response from female colleagues was “what rubbish, every day is Men’s day” and then a load of sexist claptrap culminating in “man up boys, we’re coming for your power” (utter nonsense that line!)

I’m a woman and I argue it’s needed because toxic feminism has moved over the line into blatant misandry. Men are the enemy to a lot of women and it’s not fair.

Look at the film that came out last year “Rough Night”. A “hilarious” tale where five women accidentally kill a male stripper at a hen party and then “bond over hiding the body”. You make that about five lads on a stag and it wouldn’t even get a meeting.

I believe in equality but I’m afraid the lads are on a losing streak. What are your thoughts ?

EndaHonesty

Don't fall for it lads...

Sonics2k

PeterParker957 wrote: »

International Men’s Day is coming up and my workplace has just sent out a notification.

Two things: firstly the focus on the day is “men’s role in the family and childcare”.

Why not focus on the fact that the leading cause of death in young men is suicide ? Why not look at the inequality in family courts where women are almost universally given custody ? Why not examine that domestic violence against men or sexual abuse of male teenagers by older women is not taken as seriously as if it were the other way round ?

Secondly, and rather sadly predictably – the response from female colleagues was “what rubbish, every day is Men’s day” and then a load of sexist claptrap culminating in “man up boys, we’re coming for your power” (utter nonsense that line!)

I’m a woman and I argue it’s needed because toxic feminism has moved over the line into blatant misandry. Men are the enemy to a lot of women and it’s not fair.

Look at the film that came out last year “Rough Night”. A “hilarious” tale where five women accidentally kill a male stripper at a hen party and then “bond over hiding the body”. You make that about five lads on a stag and it wouldn’t even get a meeting.

I believe in equality but I’m afraid the lads are on a losing streak. What are your thoughts ?

Tell the truth now, that didn't actually happen, did it.

o1s1n

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Look at the film that came out last year “Rough Night”. A “hilarious” tale where five women accidentally kill a male stripper at a hen party and then “bond over hiding the body”. You make that about five lads on a stag and it wouldn’t even get a meeting.

Actually they got a meeting, it was filmed and released as 'Very Bad Things' back in 1998.

c_man

My company is marking the day by literally castrating the male employees and then putting them in stockades for the 4 women we have working here, to throw rotten fruit at.

Dravokivich

Why can we only have a day, while sharks get a week?

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Two things: firstly the focus on the day is “men’s role in the family and childcare”.

Funny you should bring this up as my son said yesterday he thinks there should be a guy teacher working in the creche, to help stop another boy from messing.

One eyed Jack

It has about as much significance in my life as every other special day the other 364 days of the year. That is to say - not a whole lot.

One day of the year isn't going to have me care any more or any less about the small number of things I do care about, nor is it going to make me care any more about the vast majority of things that I don't care about. Special days are one of those things I just don't care about.

Hande hoche!

o1s1n wrote: »

Actually they got a meeting, it was filmed and released as 'Very Bad Things' back in 1998.

Christian Bale was superb in it.

Dravokivich

One eyed Jack wrote: »

It has about as much significance in my life as every other special day the other 364 days of the year. That is to say - not a whole lot.

One day of the year isn't going to have me care any more or any less about the small number of things I do care about, nor is it going to make me care any more about the vast majority of things that I don't care about. Special days are one of those things I just don't care about.

Surely you've got some birthdays to deduct from that right? :P

PeterParker957

Sonics2k wrote: »

Tell the truth now, that didn't actually happen, did it.

Oh how I wish I'd made it up - but I work with an uber feminist.

Makes Una Mulally look like Chubby Brown she does.

One eyed Jack

Dravokivich wrote: »

Surely you've got some birthdays to deduct from that right? :P

It's my birthday on the 19th November, International Men's day! All I want for it is a bit of peace and quiet

PeterParker957

o1s1n wrote: »

Actually they got a meeting, it was filmed and released as 'Very Bad Things' back in 1998.

Apologies, not familiar with that one.

It wouldn't get made now though.

Odhinn

c_man wrote: »

My company is marking the day by literally castrating the male employees and then putting them in stockades for the 4 women we have working here, to throw rotten fruit at.

Yep. Anyone who survives is dragged to the sacrificial altars on International Womens Day, to slake the bloodlust of dark feminine gods.

whoopsadoodles

My work have cancelled it and replaced it by International Women's Day 2 because one day for us just isn't enough. We all have the day off paid and men have to do our jobs for us. Which they can't, obviously.

benjamin d

Sonics2k wrote: »

Tell the truth now, that didn't actually happen, did it.

I've personally heard this type of stuff on more than one occasion.

While I'm not too fussed about an international men's day either way, it is telling that the focus is on what we men are doing wrong with regard to traditionally female roles as opposed to things men genuinely need support with. To turn the previous statements around, we have the whole rest of the year to be reminded of and address our supposed patriarchal failings, why not have one day where we can unashamedly discuss our own issues in life?

PeterParker957

Odhinn wrote: »

Yep. Anyone who survives is dragged to the sacrificial altars on International Womens Day, to slake the bloodlust of dark feminine gods.

Seriously lads, I work with women who would nod along to that as a good idea!!!!

** shudder **

PeterParker957

benjamin d wrote: »

I've personally heard this type of stuff on more than one occasion.

While I'm not too fussed about an international men's day either way, it is telling that the focus is on what we men are doing wrong with regard to traditionally female roles as opposed to things men genuinely need support with. To turn the previous statements around, we have the whole rest of the year to be reminded of and address our supposed patriarchal failings, why not have one day where we can unashamedly discuss our own issues in life?

This. Exactly this!

drake70

It falls on November 19th.

Which is also World Toilet Day

https://www.vercalendario.info/en/event/days-unitednations-19-november-2017.html

whoopsadoodles

drake70 wrote: »

It falls on November 19th.

Which is also World Toilet Day

https://www.vercalendario.info/en/event/days-unitednations-19-november-2017.html

And World Day of Remembrance for Road Traffic Victicms.

super_furry

Have you raised this issue with your company?

PeterParker957

super_furry wrote: »

Have you raised this issue with your company?

No chance. We're very focused on "gender equality" by having women only shortlists for certain roles.

When I mentioned this seemed the very opposite of equality and was actually discriminating against men, it did not go down well.

The_Valeyard

Mens day could be useful event to raise awareness about suicide or male health such as testicular cancee

PeterParker957

Boom_Bap wrote: »

And World Masturbate in the Toilet At Work Day

I'll start on the t-shirts!

super_furry

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Mens day could be useful event to raise awareness about suicide or male health such as testicular cancer

True but really, I don't feel like that's lacking.

The whole Movember movement has done great things in addressing the issue of men's health, both mental and physical.

Grayson

super_furry wrote: »

True but really, I don't feel like that's lacking.

The whole Movember movement has done great things in addressing the issue of men's health, both mental and physical.

Although it's a pity that it involves loads of dodgy moustaches. Half my office look like 70's porn stars.

Grayson

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Mens day could be useful event to raise awareness about suicide or male health such as testicular cancee

The whole point of Movember is to raise money for prostate and testicular cancer.

PeterParker957

Grayson wrote: »

The whole point of Movember is to raise money for prostate and testicular cancer.

There's an entire month for Breast Cancer - God help you if you don't wear pink.

I told them one yer I had on a pink thong on. They never checked!! :D:D:D

pjohnson

Grayson wrote: »

Although it's a pity that it involves loads of dodgy moustaches. Half my office look like 70's porn stars.

Is that really specific to the month of November though?

I told the two other members of my household - both men - that it was International Womens Day, and both of them said every day was womens day, as I filled the dishwasher. OH MY GOD THE MISOGYNISTS!

IMD is what you make of it, and I don't see why men's role in the family shouldn't be celebrated and all the daddies and brothers and sons get a pat on the back.

Positive things should be celebrated as well as negative things addressed.

PeterParker957

Candie wrote: »

I told the two other members of my household - both men - that it was International Womens Day, and both of them said every day was womens day, as I filled the dishwasher. OH MY GOD THE MISOGYNISTS!

IMD is what you make of it, and I don't see why men's role in the family shouldn't be celebrated and all the daddies and brothers and sons get a pat on the back.

Positive things should be celebrated as well as negative things addressed.

I absolutely agree but that's not their focus - it's definitely more like "why men don't help more". Which is insane.

@Candie - your idea is exactly what should be celebrated.

eviltwin

I don't see why the workplace should be getting involved in IMD or it's female equivalent. Just asking for trouble.

I think both days are great opportunities to discuss issues relevant to each gender. Yes there are always the jokes but they are just jokes, people need to lighten up and not take these things so seriously.

cantdecide

I worked in a large open plan office (an outsourced call centre and backoffice admin company). Our floor had about 200 people. There was always a lot of shenanigans around any holiday or event.

IWD - celebrations, decorations, competitions and a praising email from the department head.

IMD - drumroll please... nothing except unofficial muttering and snide quips.

Skylinehead

If I were President, I'd ban days. Vote me.

Skylinehead

Skylinehead wrote: »

If I were President, I'd ban days. Vote me.

If you ban Mondays I'll vote for you twice.

storker

drake70 wrote: »

It falls on November 19th.

Which is also World Toilet Day

https://www.vercalendario.info/en/event/days-unitednations-19-november-2017.html

Put them together and you've got Leaving The Seat Up Day.

Skylinehead

Candie wrote: »

If you ban Mondays I'll vote for you twice.

Tuesdays are worse. But they're both days so they're in the bin.

Liam28

drake70 wrote: »

It falls on November 19th.

Which is also World Toilet Day

https://www.vercalendario.info/en/event/days-unitednations-19-november-2017.html

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

And World Day of Remembrance for Road Traffic Victicms.

Perfect. A day for sh1t, male drivers.

jamesbere

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I'll start on the t-shirts!

Not sure what your implying

The_Valeyard

super_furry wrote: »

True but really, I don't feel like that's lacking.

The whole Movember movement has done great things in addressing the issue of men's health, both mental and physical.

I actually forgot about Movember!! Ive heard very little about it this year or have I been living in a bunker?

jonon9

All these special days are pure rubbish gay day,womens day,mens day or any other **** you can think off pure muck. We dont need them.
'Oh your gay are you well fair play to you now but your clothes on and stop marching around the streets you gimp'

drake70

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I actually forgot about Movember!! Ive heard very little about it this year or have I been living in a bunker?

It's been "Living in a bunker day" every day since January 20th this year.

sbsquarepants

o1s1n wrote: »

Actually they got a meeting, it was filmed and released as 'Very Bad Things' back in 1998.

Brilliant film - Jaysus was that 19 years ago. I must have 1 foot in the grave!:eek:

Buford T. Justice XIX

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Oh how I wish I'd made it up - but I work with an uber feminist.

Makes Una Mulally look like Chubby Brown she does.

Well, thanks very much for putting that image in my head:(

Ulysses Gaze

c_man wrote: »

My company is marking the day by literally castrating the male employees and then putting them in stockades for the 4 women we have working here, to throw rotten fruit at.

You think you have it bad.

In our company, all the men draw lots and the two "winners" have to fight in a wrestling Texas Death Match where one of the men is actually unmasked and killed in the ring.

PeterParker957

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Well, thanks very much for putting that image in my head:(

Sorry!!!!

Grayson

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I actually forgot about Movember!! Ive heard very little about it this year or have I been living in a bunker?

I didn't notice last year but I was unemployed. I think most of these things are only noticeable if the company you work for does something. There's mails every day about it here. Still not as annoying as the ridiculous amount of spam i got about it in a previous job.
I don't need to see daily photo's of a moustache growing.

Odhinn

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I believe in equality but I’m afraid the lads are on a losing streak. What are your thoughts ?

We are. God be with the days you could go around and drape your lad over things to mark your territory. These days you're reduced to writing your name on sticky labels and trying to get them stay on the back of your stapler.

Hector Savage

Mens day 19th November is followed by Childrens day on the 20th ... I wonder will Google have a doodle for Mens day ??? like **** they will ...

Cocks out for International Men's Day ...?

Boom_Bap

Deleted User wrote: »

Cocks out for International Men's Day ...?

Rebranded to Louis CK Day......too soon??

Grayson

Hector Savage wrote: »

Mens day 19th November is followed by Childrens day on the 20th ... I wonder will Google have a doodle for Mens day ??? like **** they will ...

I googled it and it's because it's not an internationally recognised day. Womens day is recognised by the UN but mens day was created by some college professor. And google try to only do doodles for big days. However I did find a google doodle for mens day in 2008.

In my googling I did come across a weird fact. Apparently the day of the year that sees the most searches for "International mens day" is in march, on international womens day