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Are wages that bad ?

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  • #92
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    dartboardio wrote: »
    My mother is a quality surveyor in pharmaceuticals and would be on about €45,000. I would imagine that is the average wage.

    That's for that generation, it's lowering all the time


  • #93
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    dartboardio wrote: »
    If €29,000 pa is the average that is extremely low and would suggest alot of unskilled workers.


    It's not.


    2018 data

    mean annual earnings = 44k
    median annual earnings = 36k


  • #94
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/er/elcq/earningsandlabourcostsq32019finalq42019preliminaryestimates/

    2019 Q3 data out.

    Mean earnings

    769 pw

    23.53 per hour, this includes irregular earnings

    I make that 40k pa for mean earnings?


  • #95
    Granadino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    You should see how bad it is here in Spain.


  • #96
    vriesmays
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    How bad is it in Spain.


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  • #97
    Granadino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    vriesmays wrote: »
    How bad is it in Spain.

    In the south, for a digital marketing job, you'd be looking at an average of €1500 a month I'd say. Not much more in the likes of Madrid and Barcelona. I don't know how they expect people to live on that in those big cities.


  • #98
    mlem123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭mlem123


    vriesmays wrote: »
    How bad is it in Spain.

    Some parts of Andalucia the average yearly wage is about 8/9K. Mostly due to underemployment


  • #99
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Granadino wrote: »
    In the south, for a digital marketing job, you'd be looking at an average of €1500 a month I'd say. Not much more in the likes of Madrid and Barcelona. I don't know how they expect people to live on that in those big cities.

    That's the trade off you have to make for a much better lifestyle. My salary in London was over double what I was offered in Seville at the time and I thought it was a no brainer to go with the former, in hindsight maybe not.


  • #100
    Computer Science Student
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Computer Science Student


    mlem123 wrote: »
    I'm just finishing my HDip in Data Analytics and it's depressing looking for jobs that are open to people with less coding experience.

    Saw an ad a while back looking for a Graduate, who had a 1 year+ experience in a specific coding language (can't remember which), a masters degree and they were offering 26K!

    They say they're begging people to upskill in these courses but the only people they seem to have benefited in my class are those who work in Data Analytics and they just need to cert to progress their career further.

    you're doing something wrong, they are crying out for data scientists and software engineers with data science knowledge in the workforce. you should be walking into 60k+


  • #101
    irishguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭irishguy


    Computer Science Student wrote: »
    you're doing something wrong, they are crying out for data scientists and software engineers with data science knowledge in the workforce. you should be walking into 60k+
    No companies will offer than without commercial experience. We hired about 5 grad engineers in the last few months, it took a while, but we were only looking for the top 10-20% of pupils, they all had multiple offers. If your an average/below average student most companies won't take the chance. Once you have a few years experience even the poorer candidates get roles with a decent'ish salary.
    If your in this category you need to take a non dev role (QA/ba/higher level support) and move into Dec over time. Also less tech focused companies with grad programs are a good places to start banks/large MNCs/gov etc or look outside Ireland.
    Or work harder do come personal coding in an on-demand area and you can talk about that in your interview.


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  • #102
    Computer Science Student
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Computer Science Student


    irishguy wrote: »
    No companies will offer than without commercial experience. We hired about 5 grad engineers in the last few months, it took a while, but we were only looking for the top 10-20% of pupils, they all had multiple offers. If your an average/below average student most companies won't take the chance. Once you have a few years experience even the poorer candidates get roles with a decent'ish salary.
    If your in this category you need to take a non dev role (QA/ba/higher level support) and move into Dec over time. Also less tech focused companies with grad programs are a good places to start banks/large MNCs/gov etc or look outside Ireland.
    Or work harder do come personal coding in an on-demand area and you can talk about that in your interview.

    Of course, you need to be in the top 20% of what you do to expect to get 60k+. I suspect that is true of any field. If you are mediocre, you will probably gradually get to 60k and retire on it.


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