Less common cattle breeds

franglan

Was over at the Highland Show this year. Was very impressed with the Galloway's. Huge stock cows - great size and shape with the calves. Were way more impressive than the Angus on show.

Willfarman

The Welsh black have developed into great cattle but my take home breed would be the Devon reds.

grassroot1

Willfarman wrote: »

Bought a bullock a few weeks back. ST was the code. Stabiliser. Looks like a shorthorn.

wonder was he one of mine?

Birdnuts

Is it just my imagination or are there more beef shorthorns about the place in the last few years??

The man in red and black

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Do you ever twist the calf to get it through at the hips?

Couldn't agree with you more Patsy! Definitely a good idea to prevent hiplock is to twist any big calves once the shoulders are through if you can so the widest part of the calfs hips matches the widest part of the cows pelvis. Once they are hip locked it's usually too late to rotate and almost impossible to push back. Prevention better than cure! Romangola all the way sure :P

Willfarman

grassroot1 wrote: »

wonder was he one of mine?

Il still accept luck money...

bogman_bass

I bought a red Angus and a Maine Anjou last week.

A friend picked up two nice irish moiled heifers in Delvin recently

MfMan

Saw a blk in the ring a little while back, board showed up his breed as MSX. Any idea what breed? Looked like a kind of Shorthorn if I remember.

bogman_bass

MfMan wrote: »

Saw a blk in the ring a little while back, board showed up his breed as MSX. Any idea what breed? Looked like a kind of Shorthorn if I remember.

Milking shorthorn?

kollegeknight

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/amp/in-pictures-do-you-know-these-10-rare-breeds-323320


Are we being watched?

The man in red and black

bogman_bass wrote: »

I bought a red Angus and a Maine Anjou last week.

A friend picked up two nice irish moiled heifers in Delvin recently

Have you a picture of the Maine Anjou? What will you do with them?

Floki

kollegeknight wrote: »

Are we being watched?

No.

Water John

I believe you, Floki. Always thought The Dealer was a bit of an oddball.

Floki

Water John wrote: »

I believe you, Floki. Always thought The Dealer was a bit of an oddball.

It's you isn't it?

Gloucester cattle. There's a rare breed.
My father informs me we had a cow with the gloucester colouring that he bought in an auction many years ago.
However the hell someone thought or brought one into this country?

Lady Haywire

Seen Ayrshire bullocks in Carrigallen tonight. All the way from Mayo with full heads of horns on them :eek:

Water John

Wouldn't get past, 'security' down here.

Lady Haywire

Water John wrote: »

Wouldn't get past, 'security' down here.

Night sales tends to have less dept guys hanging around it seems!

MfMan

bogman_bass wrote: »

Milking shorthorn?

I suspect so actually. Only saw them as a breed quite recently.

bogman_bass

The man in red and black wrote: »

bogman_bass wrote: »

I bought a red Angus and a Maine Anjou last week.

A friend picked up two nice irish moiled heifers in Delvin recently

Have you a picture of the Maine Anjou? What will you do with them?

The Maine Anjou is calving down next month and the Angus in Feb.
Guy on dobedeal was selling up the cows. Didn't know he had those two breeds but I came away with them

FLC

I have an interest in taking on a rare Irish breed for the "heritage is good" argument and that it is a kind of a living link to the cattlemen of the past in my family.

But I also need it to make sense commercially! I am 70 acres, fairly good ground/low marginal, full time off farm income, in GLAS, calf to store setup (small numbers at the minute).

Is there a premium market (beef) for Moiled or Droimeann etc? Other than their native characteristics (good on marginal ground, marbled meat, great mothers, easy calve etc) and the intrinsic heritage value of maintaining these breeds is there a market for progeny (other than selling good certified offspring to other like-minded owners)?

Basically is it an expensive hobby or can you make a twist?!

Irish Beef

Willfarman wrote: »

kollegeknight wrote: »

A lad up north has them. My vet was telling me to get a bull after my first c-section. He said they are tiny calves with a great growth rate but wouldn’t sell in the mart here. That i would have to finish them.

How much did you pay for him and what weight if you don’t mind me asking. What do you think of him?

Feb16 540kgs 980€.  I'd be calling him an o+ nothing great about him. I can't seem to upload photos to this via iPhone.

I've read a bit about these stabilizer cattle, sound like they could be good cows, supposed to be small at birth, wonder would they sell as weanlings or would they really only come into there own in a suckler to beef system. Suppose not many people have much experience of them yet.

Lady Haywire

Irish Beef wrote: »

I've read a bit about these stabilizer cattle, sound like they could be good cows, supposed to be small at birth, wonder would they sell as weanlings or would they really only come into there own in a suckler to beef system. Suppose not many people have much experience of them yet.

There's a good few of them near enough to me here, think they featured somewhere before, possible the Irish Farming Discussion Group on Facebook.

Feckoffcup

Moiled cows will have a bit of a boost under the environmental farming scheme up here in the North. Per head payments for keeping them.

FLC

FLC wrote: »

I have an interest in taking on a rare Irish breed for the "heritage is good" argument and that it is a kind of a living link to the cattlemen of the past in my family.

But I also need it to make sense commercially! I am 70 acres, fairly good ground/low marginal, full time off farm income, in GLAS, calf to store setup (small numbers at the minute).

Is there a premium market (beef) for Moiled or Droimeann etc? Other than their native characteristics (good on marginal ground, marbled meat, great mothers, easy calve etc) and the intrinsic heritage value of maintaining these breeds is there a market for progeny (other than selling good certified offspring to other like-minded owners)?

Basically is it an expensive hobby or can you make a twist?!

Any thoughts on this folks?

Cattlepen

Willfarman wrote: »

Bought a bullock a few weeks back. ST was the code. Stabiliser. Looks like a shorthorn.

I bred a few stabilisers and was selling some in the mart. The auctioneer said to me ". What the **** is ST"

Cattlepen

Irish Beef wrote: »

I've read a bit about these stabilizer cattle, sound like they could be good cows, supposed to be small at birth, wonder would they sell as weanlings or would they really only come into there own in a suckler to beef system. Suppose not many people have much experience of them yet.

I have them here. They will not sell well as weanlings. Definitely only suited to suckler to beef and even at that they are not going to revolutionise the beef industry.
If you bred Angus instead at least you have a chance at the bonus