new work while on sick

mireasa

Hi all,

Is it possible to start a new job while on sick leave with resignation letter at previous job?

Thank you in advance

Tenigate

Anything's possible.

Just make sure you're not getting sick pay from old job when you begin the new job. That would be dishonest.

mireasa

And how do I do that?
How am I suppose to not get pay sick?

davo10

If you are on sick leave, the presumption is you are unable to work due to illness. If you start another job, you are well enough to work so you must stop recieving illness benefit from DSAFA/pay from your current employer. You can't continue to receive benefits after you begin your new job, up to the date you receive your first wage.

_Brian

Are you on certified leave from work ??

If your certified how can you work for a new employer ?

Nothing to stop you handing in notice while on sickleave.

mireasa

I do know that nothing is stopping me to resign while on sick leave.
I have to start a new job tomorrow but i have to give notice 2 weeks to my current employer so no time for 2 weeks notice....what should I do?
please please help

tedpan

mireasa wrote:

I do know that nothing is stopping me to resign while on sick leave. I have to start a new job tomorrow but i have to give notice 2 weeks to my current employer so no time for 2 weeks notice....what should I do? please please help

If you are on sick leave, how are you fit to start a new job?

Tenigate

Oh my god.. you got a job?

Start your new job.

Phone existing employer and tell them you will not be returning from sick leave and will forward them your resignation letter asap.

Then tomorrow, you turn up to your new job.

And at your convenience, forward a resignation letter to your old employer.

Tenigate

mireasa wrote: »

And how do I do that?
How am I suppose to not get pay sick?

When you tell your old employer you're leaving, they'll stop paying. Comprende?

mireasa

What about the fraud?!

Tenigate

mireasa wrote: »

What about the fraud?!

What fraud?

mireasa

i ve read that i can be accused of fraud...
getting sick paid and salary from a new job...
how can i call sick without my current employer to pay me sick leave?
if i email the resignation letter they will stop paying me sick leave?
I am sorry for being ignorant but better ask then do some huge mistake
thanks to all of u that help me!

Stheno

mireasa wrote: »

i ve read that i can be accused of fraud...
getting sick paid and salary from a new job...
how can i call sick without my current employer to pay me sick leave?
if i email the resignation letter they will stop paying me sick leave?
I am sorry for being ignorant but better ask then do some huge mistake
thanks to all of u that help me!

Does your current employer pay you if you are off sick?

Tenigate

I feel sorry for your new employer. I really do.

mireasa

Does your current employer pay you if you are off sick?

yes

Stheno

mireasa wrote: »

Does your current employer pay you if you are off sick?

yes

So you'll be paid by your current employer and the new employer for two weeks and pay lots of extra tax.

Are you currently on sick leave or intending to pretend to be sick to start the new job?

Sam Hain

mireasa wrote: »

Does your current employer pay you if you are off sick?

yes

what is actually wrong with you?

mireasa

I am not...but i was thinking to do so just to cover 2 weeks notice...
i dont want to be paid sick leave....is there any way that i can say this to my current employer?

Stheno

mireasa wrote: »

I am not...but i was thinking to do so just to cover 2 weeks notice...
i dont want to be paid sick leave....is there any way that i can say this to my current employer?

No. Just start your new job and phone your current employer and quit

davo10

mireasa wrote: »

Does your current employer pay you if you are off sick?

yes

Op, you can't have it both ways, sick pay from your old employer and standard pay from your new employer.

Contact your current employer, tell them you are resigning with immediate effect, they won't expect notice as you are currently off work. They will stop your sick pay with immediate effect. Start your new job and then wait for your first pay.

What you CANNOT do, is start your new job and continue to receive sick pay from your current employer. If you are no longer ill then either you are no longer entitled to be paid by your old employer unless you return to work there.

mireasa

I am starting a new job tomorrow but i didnt give notice yet.
notice should be 2 weeks....how do i cover the 2 weeks?!
thanks

mireasa

But that is against my contract
the notice period should be 2 weeks:(

davo10

mireasa wrote: »

I am starting a new job tomorrow but i didnt give notice yet.
notice should be 2 weeks....how do i cover the 2 weeks?!
thanks

Did you just get this new job today? Surely you have had a couple of days/weeks to plan for this?

Phone tomorrow morning, tell your old employer you are resigning with immediate effect and to stop your pay as of today. You are now obviously well enough to work so no longer entitled to be paid while out sick, so as far as your employer is concerned, after tomorrow you are with no longer working there or absent without leave, either way you don't get paid.

Stheno

mireasa wrote: »

But that is against my contract
the notice period should be 2 weeks:(

Just quit as you've been told

Dr Turk Turkelton

Just to clarify, are you saying you have not one but two jobs?
How can anyone be unemployed in this economy if that is the case.

davo10

mireasa wrote: »

But that is against my contract
the notice period should be 2 weeks:(

if you are no longer ill, then you either resign with immediate effect and stop being paid, or you go back to work and work your two weeks notice.

Op, if you have been off ill and your employer has been paying, trust me, they will be happy to accept immediate resignation without notice.

Tenigate

mireasa wrote: »

But that is against my contract
the notice period should be 2 weeks:(

Then why are you starting a new job tomorrow?

Look, it doesn't matter. I'm sure your old employer will just be happy to see the back of you

Good luck in your new job.

Tigger

op you technically shouldnt be both well and sick at the same time
but becasuse your doctor decided to give youba sick note for your old job
i assume due to stress or sinilar you are
tell your current employer you quit and that you are not giving nitice as you are sick
or give two weeks notice and get paid for them and then commit fraud
its up to you

mireasa

because is closer to my house and i can take care of my daughter that she is so sick

Wesser

What is your sickness?
What wrong with You?

Seems a strange co incidence that you're suddenly better the very day you start a new job.

Hope you weren't lying to your Dr.

Resign from your current job effective immediately (31st October).

It probably won't make much difference at this stage to your current employer if you are not there either through sick leave or not working out your notice period.

_Brian

Ring your old employer and say your resigning with immediate effect and will not be working your notice.
Tell them to cease all payments immediately.

Tell them you will be forwarding a letter immediately with the same information in it.

The chances of you being followed for not working your notice are negligible.


TBH it’s a bit of a crappy way to finish any job but then I know some employees are terribly treated and leave on stress etc which wouldn’t stop them starting a new job.

mireasa

TBH you are right! When they need you they will do anything....when they don't...they make you resign...lots of work and little pay and no appreciation...

davo10

mireasa wrote: »

TBH you are right! When they need you they will do anything....when they don't...they make you resign...lots of work and little pay and no appreciation...

Who is making you resign? You are starting a new job, when you started this thread your employer didn't know you are leaving.

jcd5971

mireasa wrote:

I am starting a new job tomorrow but i didnt give notice yet. notice should be 2 weeks....how do i cover the 2 weeks?! thanks

My advice is ring your old employer first thing tomorrow and just say look I'm letting you know I'm quitting today I won't be coming back I'm very sorry but I'm not in a position to work any notice period.

Go to new employer and forget about old job.

DO NOT claim sick pay from the second you start new job.
Firstly it's very unfair to your old employer and secondly if there sick pay scheme involves the social welfare you will be guilty of de-frauding the scheme and risk getting in a bit of trouble.


OP you have handled this situation terribly, whatever about not working any notice you've also dumped your old employer in to having to scramble to replace you, that's bad form.

I echo other posters here your old job is lucky to be losing you and I feel sorry for your new employer.

You have my advice, but I don't wish you any luck.

mireasa

I would like to thank all of you!:)