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General Rugby Discussion II

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    #6992
    OldRio
    Registered Users Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭OldRio


    CVC taking a 14.5% stake in the six nations.


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    #6993
    Granny15
    Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭Granny15


    OldRio wrote: »
    CVC taking a 14.5% stake in the six nations.

    Beginning of the end. Six nations on pay per view. British and Irish league. No european rugby. Dark days ahead


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    #6994
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,061 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    OldRio wrote: »
    CVC taking a 14.5% stake in the six nations.

    1/7th

    they have 28% of pro14 and 27% of premiership


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    #6995
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Granny15 wrote: »
    Beginning of the end. Six nations on pay per view. British and Irish league. No european rugby. Dark days ahead

    Was wondering that. Thought the rights were protected here by law or something so had to be on terrestrial tv? Or is it if rights are sold as a package that wouldn't be the case anymore?


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    #6996
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Was wondering that. Thought the rights were protected here by law or something so had to be on terrestrial tv? Or is it if rights are sold as a package that wouldn't be the case anymore?

    Nope. Only deferred coverage has to be free to air.


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    #6997
    The Lost Sheep
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Was wondering that. Thought the rights were protected here by law or something so had to be on terrestrial tv? Or is it if rights are sold as a package that wouldn't be the case anymore?
    They must be shown on terrestrial but that can be deferred coverage. They dont have to be shown live on terrestrial channels


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    #6998
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Former Former wrote: »
    Nope. Only deferred coverage has to be free to air.
    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    They must be shown on terrestrial but that can be deferred coverage. They dont have to be shown live on terrestrial channels

    Ah feck. Would be a dose to have to get another package to watch your national team tbh. Is it that Virgin Media just happens to be terrestrial then? So if CVC buy rights they could put behind a paywall presumably?


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    #6999
    awec
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Ah feck. Would be a dose to have to get another package to watch your national team tbh. Is it that Virgin Media just happens to be terrestrial then? So if CVC buy rights they could put behind a paywall presumably?

    The only thing stopping the 6N selling to pay-tv is the fear of public uproar and the fear of politicians moving to protect the games on the back of such uproar.


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    #7000
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    awec wrote: »
    The only thing stopping the 6N selling to pay-tv is the fear of public uproar and the fear of politicians moving to protect the games on the back of such uproar.

    Which is exactly what Alex White threatened to do last time and is almost certainly what his equivalent would do this time. CVC in theory have no hold over government ministers.


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    #7001
    Burkie1203
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    That's staggering


    https://twitter.com/RugbyInsideLine/status/1280107248690266112?s=19


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    #7002
    FACECUTTR
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    That's staggering


    https://twitter.com/RugbyInsideLine/status/1280107248690266112?s=19

    They are in really bad shape.


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    #7003
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Which is exactly what Alex White threatened to do last time and is almost certainly what his equivalent would do this time. CVC in theory have no hold over government ministers.

    Given loss of income IRFU could be facing, if they thought it was in their best financial interest to sell wonder would that opposition still be there. Not saying it would happen like that but not sure how firm that government line would be in the circumstances


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    #7004
    awec
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Given loss of income IRFU could be facing, if they thought it was in their best financial interest to sell wonder would that opposition still be there. Not saying it would happen like that but not sure how firm that government line would be in the circumstances

    It would almost certainly still be there. I am not sure anyone would really buy the idea that paytv is the difference between survival or collapse for the union.


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    #7005
    ArmaniJeanss
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Which is exactly what Alex White threatened to do last time and is almost certainly what his equivalent would do this time.

    How would it work in practise though?
    I understand the European (EU) list system so we could apply it to Ireland home games and our away games in France and Italy.
    But could they compel a non-EU country like the UK to comply? Half the games in the 6N take place in the UK.


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    #7006
    Eod100
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    awec wrote: »
    It would almost certainly still be there. I am not sure anyone would really buy the idea that paytv is the difference between survival or collapse for the union.

    I don't think it is but just assume government's position isn't isolated one and influenced by IRFU's position too


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    #7007
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    That's staggering


    https://twitter.com/RugbyInsideLine/status/1280107248690266112?s=19

    My sympathy meter is zero.


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    #7008
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,755 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Granny15 wrote: »
    Beginning of the end. Six nations on pay per view. British and Irish league. No european rugby. Dark days ahead

    I personally would love to see a British and Irish league.


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    #7009
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    My sympathy meter is zero.

    Even for the people who lost their jobs?


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    #7010
    [Deleted User]
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    bilston wrote: »
    I personally would love to see a British and Irish league.

    Not sure I'd trust the RFU or the premiership clubs for that matter enough to get more into bed with them.


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    #7011
    Granny15
    Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭Granny15


    bilston wrote: »
    I personally would love to see a British and Irish league.

    Says the Unionist. It would be suicide to pit our provinces in a League where the Unions can’t help fund the provinces and the provinces gate receipts can’t help fund the IRFU. We have a symbiotic relationship with the IRFU that helps us punch above our weight in Europe. To see that relationship altered to get more TV money and risk the historical integrity of how the provinces have always functioned is madness. We’d be putting our provinces future into the hands of pay masters in England something that might not go down too well with some of us who have a history of oppression from said country.


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    #7012
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Granny15 wrote: »
    Says the Unionist. It would be suicide to pit our provinces in a League where the Unions can’t help fund the provinces and the provinces gate receipts can’t help fund the IRFU. We have a symbiotic relationship with the IRFU that helps us punch above our weight in Europe. To see that relationship altered to get more TV money and risk the historical integrity of how the provinces have always functioned is madness. We’d be putting our provinces future into the hands of pay masters in England something that might not go down too well with some of us who have a history of oppression from said country.

    WTF?!?!?


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    #7013
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,607 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    WTF?!?!?

    I'm surprised anyone even acts shocked at the stuff he's come out with over the past couple of weeks.


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    #7014
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Poster is taking a holiday, no need to discuss further. Back on topic everyone, thanks.


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    #7015
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Even for the people who lost their jobs?

    I’ve sympathy for them yes of course. I was referring to the RFU having a cash shortage.


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    #7016
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Rory Scholes released by Brive: https://www.cabrive-rugby.com/index.php/news/1083-le-ca-brive-un-grand-merci-aux-10-joueurs-qui-nous-quittent-a-la-fin-de-la-saison-2019-2020


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    #7017
    scott1974
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    Another atricle where Lewis Ludlam and Ellis Genge are mixed up!!

    https://www.the42.ie/leicester-england-trio-deals-5144793-Jul2020/


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    #7018
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,607 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    scott1974 wrote: »
    Another atricle where Lewis Ludlam and Ellis Genge are mixed up!!

    https://www.the42.ie/leicester-england-trio-deals-5144793-Jul2020/

    Belfast Telegraph used the same photo earlier today, looks like someone marked the photos incorrectly at the press agency.


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    #7019
    scott1974
    Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭scott1974


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Belfast Telegraph used the same photo earlier today, looks like someone marked the photos incorrectly at the press agency.

    The second time in a few months... very sloppy..


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    #7020
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    10 positive Covid-19 tests in the Premiership:

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2020/0708/1152117-ten-positive-covid-19-tests-in-premiership-rugby/


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    #7021
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Champions and Challenge will be taking place somewhere else besides Marseille. Guess it's probably behind closed doors anyway? There's guaranteed to be at least 1 French team in semi. If no fans they could nearly have waited til after qfs or semis to decide. https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1281151886817665025?s=19


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