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Negotiating price of Rolex

  • 24-10-2017 8:58am
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    Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭


    Hi All

    Apologies if this has been asked before, i couldn't find a thread on it.

    It's our fathers 60th soon and we were looking to get him a Rolex, we're in Dublin so Weirs looks the only option.

    Do you know if they move on price at all, we were looking at getting a gift voucher so that he could pick the watch himself.

    If we gave him cash, he's give the money back to us and say we're spending too much money.

    Was wondering if Weirs do any negotiating on price because i'd assume with a voucher, we'd lose any power on moving price.

    Also would Keanes or any other stores in Ireland have different prices to Weirs, or are they all the same?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Hi All

    Apologies if this has been asked before, i couldn't find a thread on it.

    It's our fathers 60th soon and we were looking to get him a Rolex, we're in Dublin so Weirs looks the only option.

    Do you know if they move on price at all, we were looking at getting a gift voucher so that he could pick the watch himself.

    If we gave him cash, he's give the money back to us and say we're spending too much money.

    Was wondering if Weirs do any negotiating on price because i'd assume with a voucher, we'd lose any power on moving price.

    Also would Keanes or any other stores in Ireland have different prices to Weirs, or are they all the same?

    You might get something off precious metals models, but otherwise you’d expect zero for the steel sports.


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    Ok thanks, we were looking at the date-just but ones priced around €5000-7000, wouldn't be able to go above that so was hoping the prices weren't fixed


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭Homer


    With the exchange rate the way it currently is there might be better value in the likes of Lunns up north. Worth a phone call at the very least.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭Zagato


    I bought my wife a lady datejust when we got engaged. She didn't particularly like it so just brought back into Weirs and upgraded it to the one she wanted without any issue. I can't imagine that we got any discount though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gerfmurphy


    Homer wrote:
    With the exchange rate the way it currently is there might be better value in the likes of Lunns up north. Worth a phone call at the very least.

    This or a out of eu. Duty free trip may be the best option.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭893bet


    Homer wrote: »
    With the exchange rate the way it currently is there might be better value in the likes of Lunns up north. Worth a phone call at the very least.

    Definitely.

    Could easily be 700 euro in the difference with the exchange rate. Rrp in pounds significantly lower. You might get a discount of 5-10 percent as supply and demand not as big an issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭Homer


    And based on my experience in weirs you’ll no doubt get a better experience in Lunns!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Worth noting that another price increase is rumoured for Rolex in the UK next month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭sbs2010


    Weirs will def give you a discount - all you have to do is ask.

    I got 100 (could have been higher) off a €1400 Oris back in 2007.

    I guess their mark up is huge so no bother to drop a few hundred rather than lose the sale.

    Sorry, just saw you plan to get voucher. I'd say there's no negotiating with the voucher as they have your money already.
    Can you get him into the shop and get him to pick one out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭Zagato


    Worth noting that another price increase is rumoured for Rolex in the UK next month.
    Yes, they had one on 1st Nov last year IIRC, and possibly another one since then.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    If we tried bring him to a store to get one, he wouldn't go, he wouldn't want us spending that much money on him, at least with a voucher, he'd have to get something, that's out thinking on it it.

    Had a look on lunns website there, they don't have prices, will email them and ask for a price list, be interested in seeing the difference


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    If we tried bring him to a store to get one, he wouldn't go, he wouldn't want us spending that much money on him, at least with a voucher, he'd have to get something, that's out thinking on it it.

    Had a look on lunns website there, they don't have prices, will email them and ask for a price list, be interested in seeing the difference

    Just go to the Rolex website and that’s the price. You’re not going to get a discount on a steel Rolex. Maybe if you’re a high value customer or buying a few at once, but otherwise no. They’ve the fear of discounting from Rolex and besides they’ll move that watch regardless. Even an unpopular model like an explorer II you can pretty much forget about it. Your options for a discount are UK, airport ADs and grey dealers - it’s worth noting even here how well rolex control their inventory and how little you’ll get off compared to nearly every other brand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    OK thanks, I went back on the website there and it shows uk prices, when I looked earlier, it didn't show a price, just said contact us,i must've been on a different page.

    Thanks guys, I'll try somehow maybe get him to Belfast


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭thegills


    Don't forget about insurance as you'll need this. Might have to buy it through Weirs also as they're the ones who value the watch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    If we got a watch in Belfast, how would be go about insuring it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    Edit double post


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭Homer


    It would be a specified item on your house contents so don’t worry about that. You will usually need to supply the receipt or valuation to your insurer and it wont add much to your/their annual premium.


  • Registered Users Posts: 673 ✭✭✭CarltonBrowne


    thegills wrote: »
    Don't forget about insurance as you'll need this. Might have to buy it through Weirs also as they're the ones who value the watch.

    If you've just bought a new watch at (or near to) RRP I can't see how you would need a valuation. I would also imagine that Weirs aren't the only people who could value a Rolex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    OK thanks, I went back on the website there and it shows uk prices, when I looked earlier, it didn't show a price, just said contact us,i must've been on a different page.

    Thanks guys, I'll try somehow maybe get him to Belfast

    What's the price difference?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,618 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Homer wrote: »
    It would be a specified item on your house contents so don’t worry about that. You will usually need to supply the receipt or valuation to your insurer and it wont add much to your/their annual premium.

    Make sure that you have a picture wearing the watch. Heard of insurance companies asking for photographic proof of wearing an expensive item when claiming.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    begbysback wrote: »
    What's the price difference?

    an oyster perpetual 39 steel is €5350, it's £4150 in lunns.

    a date just steel in blue cost €8800, it's £6900 in lunns

    There's definitely savings to be made


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Do you have a link to a price list for lunns?


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    I don't, I just went on to their website and and clicked into individual watches


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    I hate that website format as I click on a Rolex there is part of me hoping of a price tag of 5k - just for the time it takes to open - then 25k pops up!!

    Would anyone have a Rolex price list for duty frees?


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭sbs2010


    OP, this might sound corney but maybe worth a try

    Ask the dad for advice on a watch for a retiring colleague of yours or father in law or something like that.

    Get him into the shop to help pick out a nice one ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭johnthemull


    I would recommend Lunns in Belfast as well.
    I picked up an explorer 1 there last year and saved 1k off the price at Weirs.
    I still feel warm inside about this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    I would recommend Lunns in Belfast as well.
    I picked up an explorer 1 there last year and saved 1k off the price at Weirs.
    I still feel warm inside about this.

    thanks, thats good to hear.

    do they usually have stock in store or they order it in and collect?
    Just wondering incase it means multiple trips to belfast


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭johnthemull


    I would give them a ring first. If you could narrow down your quest it would help your cause. Stainless steel Rolex sports models are in short supply at the moment. I think the datejusts are more available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 AppleMuncher


    You absolutely should get a discount, arrive with cash and explain that you are there to purchase a watch. I've purchased half a dozen Rolex in the past several years and have never failed to get a discount, stainless steel or PM makes no difference (except expect greater discount on precious metal). If you don's ask...

    Never purchased from Weirs but have had excellent experience and first class service from Hartmann's in Galway. Ask for the owner Richard he is a great guy.

    27-29 William Street,
    Galway,
    Ireland

    T: +353 (0)91 562063
    W: www.hartmanns.ie
    E: [email protected]

    Alternatively speak with David O'Connor at Keane's Jewellers in Cork. another great guy to deal with.

    Keanes Jewellers,
    93-95 Oliver Plunkett Street, Cork, Ireland.
    Ph: +353 21 4271256


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  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭wetlandsboy


    You absolutely should get a discount, arrive with cash and explain that you are there to purchase a watch. I've purchased half a dozen Rolex in the past several years and have never failed to get a discount, stainless steel or PM makes no difference (except expect greater discount on precious metal). If you don's ask...

    Never purchased from Weirs but have had excellent experience and first class service from Hartmann's in Galway. Ask for the owner Richard he is a great guy.

    27-29 William Street,
    Galway,
    Ireland

    T: +353 (0)91 562063
    W: www.hartmanns.ie
    E: [email protected]

    Alternatively speak with David O'Connor at Keane's Jewellers in Cork. another great guy to deal with.

    Keanes Jewellers,
    93-95 Oliver Plunkett Street, Cork, Ireland.
    Ph: +353 21 4271256

    Second this!
    I was talking to Weirs about exchanging my BLNR against a 116618lb, and they wouldn’t even entertain a discount. However, Richard Hartmann was willing to negotiate, although he acknowledged that discounts - even on PM watches - would not be great, as Rolex has strict guidelines on this.


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