Negotiating price of Rolex

eamondunphy

Hi All

Apologies if this has been asked before, i couldn't find a thread on it.

It's our fathers 60th soon and we were looking to get him a Rolex, we're in Dublin so Weirs looks the only option.

Do you know if they move on price at all, we were looking at getting a gift voucher so that he could pick the watch himself.

If we gave him cash, he's give the money back to us and say we're spending too much money.

Was wondering if Weirs do any negotiating on price because i'd assume with a voucher, we'd lose any power on moving price.

Also would Keanes or any other stores in Ireland have different prices to Weirs, or are they all the same?

Oafley Jones

eamondunphy wrote: »

Hi All

Apologies if this has been asked before, i couldn't find a thread on it.

It's our fathers 60th soon and we were looking to get him a Rolex, we're in Dublin so Weirs looks the only option.

Do you know if they move on price at all, we were looking at getting a gift voucher so that he could pick the watch himself.

If we gave him cash, he's give the money back to us and say we're spending too much money.

Was wondering if Weirs do any negotiating on price because i'd assume with a voucher, we'd lose any power on moving price.

Also would Keanes or any other stores in Ireland have different prices to Weirs, or are they all the same?

You might get something off precious metals models, but otherwise you’d expect zero for the steel sports.

eamondunphy

Ok thanks, we were looking at the date-just but ones priced around €5000-7000, wouldn't be able to go above that so was hoping the prices weren't fixed

Homer

With the exchange rate the way it currently is there might be better value in the likes of Lunns up north. Worth a phone call at the very least.

Zagato

I bought my wife a lady datejust when we got engaged. She didn't particularly like it so just brought back into Weirs and upgraded it to the one she wanted without any issue. I can't imagine that we got any discount though.

gerfmurphy

Homer wrote:

With the exchange rate the way it currently is there might be better value in the likes of Lunns up north. Worth a phone call at the very least.

This or a out of eu. Duty free trip may be the best option.

893bet

Homer wrote: »

With the exchange rate the way it currently is there might be better value in the likes of Lunns up north. Worth a phone call at the very least.

Definitely.

Could easily be 700 euro in the difference with the exchange rate. Rrp in pounds significantly lower. You might get a discount of 5-10 percent as supply and demand not as big an issue.

Homer

And based on my experience in weirs you’ll no doubt get a better experience in Lunns!

Oafley Jones

Worth noting that another price increase is rumoured for Rolex in the UK next month.

sbs2010

Weirs will def give you a discount - all you have to do is ask.

I got 100 (could have been higher) off a €1400 Oris back in 2007.

I guess their mark up is huge so no bother to drop a few hundred rather than lose the sale.

Sorry, just saw you plan to get voucher. I'd say there's no negotiating with the voucher as they have your money already.
Can you get him into the shop and get him to pick one out?

Zagato

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Worth noting that another price increase is rumoured for Rolex in the UK next month.

Yes, they had one on 1st Nov last year IIRC, and possibly another one since then.

eamondunphy

If we tried bring him to a store to get one, he wouldn't go, he wouldn't want us spending that much money on him, at least with a voucher, he'd have to get something, that's out thinking on it it.

Had a look on lunns website there, they don't have prices, will email them and ask for a price list, be interested in seeing the difference

Oafley Jones

eamondunphy wrote: »

If we tried bring him to a store to get one, he wouldn't go, he wouldn't want us spending that much money on him, at least with a voucher, he'd have to get something, that's out thinking on it it.

Had a look on lunns website there, they don't have prices, will email them and ask for a price list, be interested in seeing the difference

Just go to the Rolex website and that’s the price. You’re not going to get a discount on a steel Rolex. Maybe if you’re a high value customer or buying a few at once, but otherwise no. They’ve the fear of discounting from Rolex and besides they’ll move that watch regardless. Even an unpopular model like an explorer II you can pretty much forget about it. Your options for a discount are UK, airport ADs and grey dealers - it’s worth noting even here how well rolex control their inventory and how little you’ll get off compared to nearly every other brand.

eamondunphy

OK thanks, I went back on the website there and it shows uk prices, when I looked earlier, it didn't show a price, just said contact us,i must've been on a different page.

Thanks guys, I'll try somehow maybe get him to Belfast

thegills

Don't forget about insurance as you'll need this. Might have to buy it through Weirs also as they're the ones who value the watch.

eamondunphy

If we got a watch in Belfast, how would be go about insuring it?

eamondunphy

Edit double post

Homer

It would be a specified item on your house contents so don’t worry about that. You will usually need to supply the receipt or valuation to your insurer and it wont add much to your/their annual premium.

CarltonBrowne

thegills wrote: »

Don't forget about insurance as you'll need this. Might have to buy it through Weirs also as they're the ones who value the watch.

If you've just bought a new watch at (or near to) RRP I can't see how you would need a valuation. I would also imagine that Weirs aren't the only people who could value a Rolex.

begbysback

eamondunphy wrote: »

OK thanks, I went back on the website there and it shows uk prices, when I looked earlier, it didn't show a price, just said contact us,i must've been on a different page.

Thanks guys, I'll try somehow maybe get him to Belfast

What's the price difference?

Del2005

Homer wrote: »

It would be a specified item on your house contents so don’t worry about that. You will usually need to supply the receipt or valuation to your insurer and it wont add much to your/their annual premium.

Make sure that you have a picture wearing the watch. Heard of insurance companies asking for photographic proof of wearing an expensive item when claiming.

eamondunphy

begbysback wrote: »

What's the price difference?

an oyster perpetual 39 steel is €5350, it's £4150 in lunns.

a date just steel in blue cost €8800, it's £6900 in lunns

There's definitely savings to be made

begbysback

Do you have a link to a price list for lunns?

eamondunphy

I don't, I just went on to their website and and clicked into individual watches

begbysback

I hate that website format as I click on a Rolex there is part of me hoping of a price tag of 5k - just for the time it takes to open - then 25k pops up!!

Would anyone have a Rolex price list for duty frees?

sbs2010

OP, this might sound corney but maybe worth a try

Ask the dad for advice on a watch for a retiring colleague of yours or father in law or something like that.

Get him into the shop to help pick out a nice one ....

johnthemull

I would recommend Lunns in Belfast as well.
I picked up an explorer 1 there last year and saved 1k off the price at Weirs.
I still feel warm inside about this.

eamondunphy

johnthemull wrote: »

I would recommend Lunns in Belfast as well.
I picked up an explorer 1 there last year and saved 1k off the price at Weirs.
I still feel warm inside about this.

thanks, thats good to hear.

do they usually have stock in store or they order it in and collect?
Just wondering incase it means multiple trips to belfast

johnthemull

I would give them a ring first. If you could narrow down your quest it would help your cause. Stainless steel Rolex sports models are in short supply at the moment. I think the datejusts are more available.

AppleMuncher

You absolutely should get a discount, arrive with cash and explain that you are there to purchase a watch. I've purchased half a dozen Rolex in the past several years and have never failed to get a discount, stainless steel or PM makes no difference (except expect greater discount on precious metal). If you don's ask...

Never purchased from Weirs but have had excellent experience and first class service from Hartmann's in Galway. Ask for the owner Richard he is a great guy.

27-29 William Street,
Galway,
Ireland

T: +353 (0)91 562063
W: www.hartmanns.ie
E: info@hartmanns.ie

Alternatively speak with David O'Connor at Keane's Jewellers in Cork. another great guy to deal with.

Keanes Jewellers,
93-95 Oliver Plunkett Street, Cork, Ireland.
Ph: +353 21 4271256

wetlandsboy

AppleMuncher wrote: »

You absolutely should get a discount, arrive with cash and explain that you are there to purchase a watch. I've purchased half a dozen Rolex in the past several years and have never failed to get a discount, stainless steel or PM makes no difference (except expect greater discount on precious metal). If you don's ask...

Never purchased from Weirs but have had excellent experience and first class service from Hartmann's in Galway. Ask for the owner Richard he is a great guy.

27-29 William Street,
Galway,
Ireland

T: +353 (0)91 562063
W: www.hartmanns.ie
E: info@hartmanns.ie

Alternatively speak with David O'Connor at Keane's Jewellers in Cork. another great guy to deal with.

Keanes Jewellers,
93-95 Oliver Plunkett Street, Cork, Ireland.
Ph: +353 21 4271256

Second this!
I was talking to Weirs about exchanging my BLNR against a 116618lb, and they wouldn’t even entertain a discount. However, Richard Hartmann was willing to negotiate, although he acknowledged that discounts - even on PM watches - would not be great, as Rolex has strict guidelines on this.

Gavin1

There should always be a discount. If you are in the position to have cash in hand make them aware that you buying on the day.

Upmarket jewellers crack me up, they would rather let a sale walk than engage and take a "hit" on the price.

893bet

Rolex don't allow them discount. If they did discount and it became knowledge that they did then they risk losing their AD status as it's against policy.

It depends on the model regarding discount.
If demand is huge then discount won't happen.

There is a 3-5 year wait list for the new Daytona....when they ring you to say they have one in finally to see I you still want it....do you think they will give you a discount....no chance!

Cyrus

anyone who thinks showing up at weirs with a wad of cash with guarantee a discount is wrong,

in fact if its a desirable stainless steel model they wont have it in stock most likely

you may get a small discount of some less desirable models, or two tone or precious metal but thats it

if its any other brand whatever discount you get in weirs will be dwarfed from an italian dealer on c24

eamondunphy

Hi guys, so was on to lunns and weirs about the watch yesterday and they said they would have to order it in as they don't have stock,they said it could take 3 to 14 weeks for the watch to come in

Problem is my dad's birthday is mid February, had a busy, expensive few months so never got sort it before now.. Is it likely to take more than 4/5 weeks to be ordered in?? Anyone and experience ordering watches in?

Its a blue datejust 41 in steel and white gold, one of the cheaper ones so not a higher valued or custom watch

Patricksla

Honestly, I'd order from Jomashop. You'd probably be cheaper going to their new york store and collecting in person than buying in Keanes/Weir.

Andrew Beef

Will you be in New York or the Middle East between now and then?

eamondunphy

Thanks for the help guys, couldn't get the watch in lunns or Dublin as they were out of stock and didn't know when they'd get it back in, rang a few places in Liverpool and Manchester and they said the same.

Ended up going to keanes in limerick this morning and getting the watch there, got a 5% discount with no haggling, just asked on the phone if there was any movement on price and they said yeah. Watch is silver and white gold but by no means ones of the more expensive ones.

Again, thanks for all the replies

coxy123

Gorgeous watch. Well done and best of luck with it.