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Kioti NX series tractors.

  • 21-10-2017 4:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭


    Right, so totally out of my comfort zone if it hasn't legs and a tail!
    Looking at getting a new tractor in the next year or so and we somehow both agreed that it seems a decent sort of 4 wheel drive tractor for a halfway decent price. All it needs is general farm work, mowing/topping/bringing in bales/trailer etc buuuuut we do live on a steep hill so we need the extra power in 4x4 (the old Zetor hasn't managed to ever go up one hill in particular!)

    The Kioti somehow is one we've both agreed to look at, up in Whelan country, but does anyone have any comments or is familiar with them enough to let us know if it's worth the drive! We'd both be edging towards the NX5010C


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Right, so totally out of my comfort zone if it hasn't legs and a tail!
    Looking at getting a new tractor in the next year or so and we somehow both agreed that it seems a decent sort of 4 wheel drive tractor for a halfway decent price. All it needs is general farm work, mowing/topping/bringing in bales/trailer etc buuuuut we do live on a steep hill so we need the extra power in 4x4 (the old Zetor hasn't managed to ever go up one hill in particular!)

    The Kioti somehow is one we've both agreed to look at, up in Whelan country, but does anyone have any comments or is familiar with them enough to let us know if it's worth the drive! We'd both be edging towards the NX5010C


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    Seeing as yer up that general direction.
    Call into Donal Collins Machinery and take a look at the Farmtrac range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    How much are they as a matter of interest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Seeing as yer up that general direction.
    Call into Donal Collins Machinery and take a look at the Farmtrac range.

    Bit pricier it seems with less spec on the 555 dt?



    PLUS IT'S BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    How much are they as a matter of interest?

    From 16,950, or so it says in the Journo. I'm guessing that's without vat and extras though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Mr321


    Dont think that tractor would even look at lifting a bale of silage tbh and thats talking about a small bale of silage and a lot of contractors are all going to John Deer and McHale baliers these days so the bale would lift it! Nor talk of to spread slurry if you ever intended to in the future.

    You would get a decent small 2nd hand Zetor if you maybe were to trade your own in even? Regans in Roscommon might have something and arnt to bad to talk to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Put whatever money you were going to spend on this into a second hand tractor from Massey, New Holland, John Deere, or there's good value to be had with Case.

    get the best you can find and you'll be a lot better off in the long run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    That tractor (NX5010C) is 50Hp and weighs 1992Kg, under 2 tonne.
    http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/007/4/9/7495-kioti-nx5010-dimensions.html

    They're an unproven tractor here too, so bit of a gamble buying one. They could turn out to be a good buy, but you never know. Kubota were in a similar position here a few years ago and now they have gone up a lot in sales price, with a lot of happy customers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Was down in Cork buying a trailer off a lad in August. And he had a kioti 55hp 4wd tractoe. Small compact job. He said he was very happy with it.

    Also know a lad with a kioti rtv (quad with roof and pick up). He has it a year. Lad on twitter

    But for 16k would you not pick up a half decent 4wd and loader. Maybe a landini, Ursus , deutz , case, same is big down you area. Pick up 100hp and loader easy. Keep good eye on donedeal and don’t be afraid to travel north or south. It’s only 350e to move a tractor length of country.

    Right, so totally out of my comfort zone if it hasn't legs and a tail!
    Looking at getting a new tractor in the next year or so and we somehow both agreed that it seems a decent sort of 4 wheel drive tractor for a halfway decent price. All it needs is general farm work, mowing/topping/bringing in bales/trailer etc buuuuut we do live on a steep hill so we need the extra power in 4x4 (the old Zetor hasn't managed to ever go up one hill in particular!)

    The Kioti somehow is one we've both agreed to look at, up in Whelan country, but does anyone have any comments or is familiar with them enough to let us know if it's worth the drive! We'd both be edging towards the NX5010C


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Ye are forgetting I know nothing about them so wouldn't know if I was buying shíte tbh!
    First thing we're doing in the NY is going to the chap we got the Zetor off back in '95 (if he's still open lol) and see his range. But if we were to buy new I'd like to have arrange to check out if you get my drift.
    It's going to be one used for quite some time so there'll be a lot of thought put into it, also means I'll have to learn about tractors....arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Start looking on donedeal and seeing what’s out there. Put 10-20k in the search brackets. Some good clean tractors and bring a mechcanic when you have something sourced.

    Buy a tractor and loader. Be mad not to.
    Will you keep the zetor or sell it
    Ye are forgetting I know nothing about them so wouldn't know if I was buying shíte tbh!
    First thing we're doing in the NY is going to the chap we got the Zetor off back in '95 (if he's still open lol) and see his range. But if we were to buy new I'd like to have arrange to check out if you get my drift.
    It's going to be one used for quite some time so there'll be a lot of thought put into it, also means I'll have to learn about tractors....arse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Mr321


    Ye are forgetting I know nothing about them so wouldn't know if I was buying shíte tbh!
    First thing we're doing in the NY is going to the chap we got the Zetor off back in '95 (if he's still open lol) and see his range. But if we were to buy new I'd like to have arrange to check out if you get my drift.
    It's going to be one used for quite some time so there'll be a lot of thought put into it, also means I'll have to learn about tractors....arse.


    Most decent dealers will give out a tractor for a couple of days and see what you think of them.

    But that yoke there wont lift a round bale of silage, look at there website alone shows it lifting a very very small bale of straw, narrow wheels on them also so if you were in wet ground etc you would be sitting in the mud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    That's why I was asking about them, had never heard of the make before and stockist is up in Louth so if it wasn't worth the drive there's no point looking at them.
    Honestly don't know if I'd need a loader Lakill, we've never had one and have managed fine, be pressed to think of what we'd use it for bar stacking bales 2 high & we have a spare area that holds 100+ which is all we need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    That's why I was asking about them, had never heard of the make before and stockist is up in Louth so if it wasn't worth the drive there's no point looking at them.
    Honestly don't know if I'd need a loader Lakill, we've never had one and have managed fine, be pressed to think of what we'd use it for bar stacking bales 2 high & we have a spare area that holds 100+ which is all we need.

    Talk to malone on twitter . He bought his kioti in ardee

    I was like you , saying why would I need a loader. But 2nd hand it will only cost 2/3k more than the same tractoe without it. And Wear and tear wouldn’t be much extra.

    I don’t know how I ever managed without a loader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭mancity1


    in the pic above the lift capacity is stated at 1605kg would this be sufficent to lift a round silage bale with out tractor been up in the air?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    That's why I was asking about them, had never heard of the make before and stockist is up in Louth so if it wasn't worth the drive there's no point looking at them.
    Honestly don't know if I'd need a loader Lakill, we've never had one and have managed fine, be pressed to think of what we'd use it for bar stacking bales 2 high & we have a spare area that holds 100+ which is all we need.

    I'm no tractor nut either but there an necessity I suppose.
    I have to agree with lakill, the tractor here is nothing fancy but gets through some amount of work. It's something like the pic I've attached. What would you use a loader for? Everything. A tractor without a loader is only half a tractor. They really are so handy once you get used to um.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    I'm no tractor nut either but there an necessity I suppose.
    I have to agree with lakill, the tractor here is nothing fancy but gets through some amount of work. It's something like the pic I've attached. What would you use a loader for? Everything. A tractor without a loader is only half a tractor. They really are so handy once you get used to um.

    Totally agree, something that isn't fancy would do and would do very well seeing as it's used for so little work here. We've just had the same Zetor since 97 so we're a bit 'stockholm-syndromed!'
    Seriously though, the only thing I can think of us using a loader for is cleaning out the calving pens and being something else that I'll probably break :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Yesterday only thing was stacking bales 2 high.

    Now cleaning out calving pens

    In 3 years the loader hasn’t being off my tractor. Used 60% of time of time tractor is going.

    Also get the hook arms not the old standard ones. And if you can a way of lifting the lift arms from outside.



    Totally agree, something that isn't fancy would do and would do very well seeing as it's used for so little work here. We've just had the same Zetor since 97 so we're a bit 'stockholm-syndromed!'
    Seriously though, the only thing I can think of us using a loader for is cleaning out the calving pens and being something else that I'll probably break :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Yesterday only thing was stacking bales 2 high.

    Now cleaning out calving pens

    In 3 years the loader hasn’t being off my tractor. Used 60% of time of time tractor is going.

    Also get the hook arms not the old standard ones. And if you can a way of lifting the lift arms from outside.

    Loader is grand. Only a few k more for it . then you have to buy bale handler,bucket,pallet forks . all adds up and then wear on front axle especially smaller tractors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Totally agree, something that isn't fancy would do and would do very well seeing as it's used for so little work here. We've just had the same Zetor since 97 so we're a bit 'stockholm-syndromed!'
    Seriously though, the only thing I can think of us using a loader for is cleaning out the calving pens and being something else that I'll probably break :p

    Ya I hear ya. But hey times change!
    I've a neighbour 70 odd years old that is always popping over to borrow the tractor for jobs the 2 main jobs always were 1 feeding bales (that his own tractor wouldn't lift) and pulling poles. He bought a Ford with a front loader this year finally convinced of there usefulness.
    There great for feeding bales and breaking up bales.
    Stacking straw.
    Carrying timber
    Extra height.
    Clearing branches.
    Lifting down cows.
    Lifting anything heavy around the yard.
    Lifting the quad outta holes.
    Lifting machinery to get at it.
    Pushing up silage.
    Lifting cows outta boggy spots( you have experience there iirc)

    Yere probably feeding the bales with a spike on the back of the zetor, if all you did with it was feed bales then you'd see they make sense.

    Christ I sound like I'm trying to sell one to you, but seriously there a good job. We have a handy quicke 2300 loader on ours. It's a grand tidy loader that doesn't block your view like one of those gigantic rossmore loaders.

    You be plenty of time to look around anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Ya I hear ya. But hey times change!
    I've a neighbour 70 odd years old that is always popping over to borrow the tractor for jobs the 2 main jobs always were 1 feeding bales (that his own tractor wouldn't lift) and pulling poles. He bought a Ford with a front loader this year finally convinced of there usefulness.
    There great for feeding bales and breaking up bales.- So is a graipe and a Karen :D
    Stacking straw.- 2 bales max is about all we use per calving season.
    Carrying timber- To where? Fencing posts on back of quad/tractor box & vintage tractor if we need a light terrain vehicle lol.
    Extra height.- Am confused by this one, for what, picking apples?
    Clearing branches.- Ladder, when it's not being used to block weanlings jumping :P
    Lifting down cows.- Rare occasion here, only had one in last 5yrs,
    Lifting anything heavy around the yard.- ......tractor. Actually don't really have anything heavy in the yard, bar meself :D
    Lifting the quad outta holes. 1Zetor does/has done this.
    Lifting machinery to get at it.- That's what the mechanic is for, also blocks to balance things on.
    Pushing up silage.- See answer No 1
    Lifting cows outta boggy spots( you have experience there iirc) We don't lift, we drag!

    Yere probably feeding the bales with a spike on the back of the zetor, if all you did with it was feed bales then you'd see they make sense.

    Christ I sound like I'm trying to sell one to you, but seriously there a good job. We have a handy quicke 2300 loader on ours. It's a grand tidy loader that doesn't block your view like one of those gigantic rossmore loaders.

    You be plenty of time to look around anyway.

    Yep we feed with a spike, line up three bales, one at each pen, then fork out. Tbh, it keeps me fit as well while Dad takes the lazy way out & ad lib feeds. Anything mentioned above that we'd need it for would be very occasional and we'd just get my cousins or uncles with their massive tractors (contract folk) to do it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Loader is grand. Only a few k more for it . then you have to buy bale handler,bucket,pallet forks . all adds up and then wear on front axle especially smaller tractors

    Bucket and spike is a good start.

    Then add to the collection over time. Haven’t had powerbox. On tractor in 3 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Yep we feed with a spike, line up three bales, one at each pen, then fork out. Tbh, it keeps me fit as well while Dad takes the lazy way out & ad lib feeds. Anything mentioned above that we'd need it for would be very occasional and we'd just get my cousins or uncles with their massive tractors (contract folk) to do it.

    Fair enough, I had an explanation/counter argument for each of your highlighted points, and i should have explained afew of um better aswell. but I digress.

    What do you even need a tractor for anyway? I'm sure with the proper application of a few ratchet straps you could pull them up to the barriers. Better still, cut the bales where they stand and barrow the silage to um.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Fair enough, I had an explanation/counter argument for each of your highlighted points, and i should have explained afew of um better aswell. but I digress.

    What do you even need a tractor for anyway? I'm sure with the proper application of a few ratchet straps you could pull them up to the barriers. Better still, cut the bales where they stand and barrow the silage to um.

    Sarcasm doesn't become you Titanium! I was only jesting with you on a few points and I can see how it would be useful on bigger farms. But I just can't justify the extra cost for the usage I'd see it getting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Sarcasm doesn't become you Titanium! I was only jesting with you on a few points and I can see how it would be useful on bigger farms. But I just can't justify the extra cost for the usage I'd see it getting.

    Ah im only having the craic myself.
    At the end of the day nobody knows a farm like the man or woman working it. By the way I meant to ask you how that quad mulcher got on on the heavy rushes? Recommend yes/no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Sarcasm doesn't become you Titanium! I was only jesting with you on a few points and I can see how it would be useful on bigger farms. But I just can't justify the extra cost for the usage I'd see it getting.

    We’re very small scale but have used a loader for last 30 years. Can’t imagine not having one.
    I can’t lift or maul anything so the loader is a godsend, two lifting straps and it handles everything that’s to be lifted.

    Don’t underestimate how useful it is to have one, even on a small farm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Ah im only having the craic myself.
    At the end of the day nobody knows a farm like the man or woman working it. By the way I meant to ask you how that quad mulcher got on on the heavy rushes? Recommend yes/no?

    Definite recommend, though can't see us living(well, dad living anyway) without the quad now. Mulcher is great for all the spots that we couldn't get to for the last 15yrs or so with the tractor :o Seems to be less regrowth in the areas too! All got a once over when we got it and heavier got 2 cuts, just waiting on a dry day now to go out with the licker and give them a good final blast before spring.
    It's a bit heavy on fuel though but can't complain how it leaves a field looking.

    What'd be the main thing you'd use a loader for now Brian, that you'd have done manually before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I'd fully agree on the loader. It's when you have one that you'll wonder how you managed all along without one. If only to save on your back from lifting, they are worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Floki


    Well LH did you see the kioti in the flesh yet so to speak?

    I'd agree with everyone on this thread that a tractor with a loader is a necessity.
    Can't believe I said that now in this day and age. But sure anyway.

    I bet when you go to price that kioti it'll be a lot dearer than the price quoted in the paper. Ring up first for a price before traveling if the journey will be out of your way.

    Your best bet imo is to get a case, mf, nh second-hand with a loader. And you will get good ones for your budget. Keep an eye out on DD. I'd imagine you won't have a big lot of work for it so a good clean one should last a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Mr321


    Amazed at all the people that would recommend a front loader. Farming a long time here without one and the majority of farms around don't have a front loader. (Big and small sized farms)
    The dairy men would have a teleporter in more recent years or a JCB digger but that's only for to fill a diet feeder since they came into play.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    A front loader is a far more useful tool than a quad imo

    If I was you Haywire I would be looking for something very similar to what Titanium posted - in fact I would say that is perfect for what it sounds like you need


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Floki


    Here's a few to get your eye in.

    1990 ford 7610.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-7610/16479984

    1995 Fiat 8894.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-8894/17003854

    2000 JD 6310. (No loader on this)
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-6310-se-power-quad/11549137

    Edit: Good tractors with a loader in this price range don't stay on DD very long so you need to keep a constant watch.
    Kill tractors had a tidy looking case with a loader up a few days ago and it's gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Mr321 wrote: »
    Amazed at all the people that would recommend a front loader. Farming a long time here without one and the majority of farms around don't have a front loader. (Big and small sized farms)
    The dairy men would have a teleporter in more recent years or a JCB digger but that's only for to fill a diet feeder since they came into play.

    I was the same No loader. Then I changed tractoe and only looked for one with a loader.

    Moving bales, loading trailer with stone or clay, lifting pallets ( fert spreader on pallet and last Monday put it into shed before storm). Feeding bales. Great job in the bog for filling trailer.

    Make sure it has a Euro head on the loader and if at all possible “ soft ride “ though 200e will add it to a loader.

    My dad is mid 50s. Grew up on farm but never farmed. 2 mins of a lesson on bog and he was flying with shuttle , and joystick loader.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Floki wrote: »
    Here's a few to get your eye in.

    1990 ford 7610.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-7610/16479984

    1995 Fiat 8894.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-8894/17003854

    2000 JD 6310. (No loader on this)
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-6310-se-power-quad/11549137

    Edit: Good tractors with a loader in this price range don't stay on DD very long so you need to keep a constant watch.
    Kill tractors had a tidy looking case with a loader up a few days ago and it's gone.

    all of those are great tractors, from my little knowledge I would say that the Fiat and JD are bullet proof. Only small question over the 7610 was the engines went porus on some of them, but there are still a load of them around the country doing Trojan work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Floki


    Panch18 wrote: »
    all of those are great tractors, from my little knowledge I would say that the Fiat and JD are bullet proof. Only small question over the 7610 was the engines went porus on some of them, but there are still a load of them around the country doing Trojan work

    You'd roughly know if the Ford changed the engine block by a change in paint colour in the block compared to the rest of it (bar it hasn't been resprayed). I had a 7610 here and it was a great tractor but I put the already diluted coolant from jd in it. Never had an issue with a porous block but I reckon the block was changed in mine before I got the tractor. That 7610 on DD is a series 3 and I think the porus blocks only really effected the series 1 especially and some 2's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Floki wrote: »
    Here's a few to get your eye in.

    1990 ford 7610.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-7610/16479984

    1995 Fiat 8894.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-8894/17003854

    2000 JD 6310. (No loader on this)
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-6310-se-power-quad/11549137

    Edit: Good tractors with a loader in this price range don't stay on DD very long so you need to keep a constant watch.
    Kill tractors had a tidy looking case with a loader up a few days ago and it's gone.

    Those are the sort I'd be happy with alright, I just don't want to be spending extra on a loader if it's never going to be used.
    Titanium did make valid points, but certain things he's mentioned can't/won't be done here due to space & land type.

    1- we only stack bales in singles as we've a waste patch behind the shed just for this purpose, it's useless otherwise. Except in the future may add a dry shed on to it but that's yeeeeeears down the line.
    2- Machinery is stored outside/put away straight after use, on pallets, using the spikes and reversing (we are very good at reversing now haha)
    3- Stones/soil moving here is minimal, and i mean extremely rare indeed! Turf is collected with an old wooden trailer, thrown up onto it. I do see the use for a loader here but wouldn't that mean extra chance of getting bogged down? Our bog is quite wet & have to traverse over fields to get to it.
    4- Our shed layout means we can't feed bales by reversing or pushing it in, reversing in with the three bales on spikes is best we can get. Three bay shed with dry shed built opposite, two calving pens mean no tractor can turn with bales in the shed.


    Now I'm not meaning to knock all your suggestions! But nobody around here really has or uses one at all. Only the larger farmers- dairy or contractor fellas- have them. I'm just trying to get the tractor that's most suitable to our needs without all the frills and fancies cause there's always some other hole to fill with spare money!!:)

    No, haven't gone to see the kioti (yet) but it does seem to have very narrow tires, so would look like a strikeout immediately, you'd almost lose the narrow front ones on the Zetor here betimes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Good tractors linked above by others. They are all around 100hp except the 88-94 @85hp. I think LH would manage with a 70 to 80 hp tractor ? The 5211 is around 50-55hp. A 70/80hp tractor would be less likely to have had multiple drivers in their younger years or have spent a large amount of time working on large farms clocking 600 -1000 hrs per year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Floki


    Anyone know where Reggie's tractor went?;)

    Good 70 - 80hp are like hens teeth though.

    Sounds like a lighter type of tractor then would be suitable so that rules out the Ford. Although I like them.

    Case 4240? If you can get a good one.
    I'm still thinking of that case 4240 that was up on DD with a loader from Kill that would have been perfect. 2 days it was up on DD and it was gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Floki


    Not sure if this'll work.
    Maher's in dunshaughlin have a clean one.
    linking from phone.

    Link.http://www.farmandplant.ie/inventory/?/listings/farm-machinery/for-sale/18853071/1998-case-ih-4240?dlr=1

    Shuttle box too.

    Nice handy light tractor.
    What ever it's like to drive.

    Edit :just spotted a glass panel missing.
    But if it was mechanically good you could get it included in the deal.
    Looks like all they did was take off the wheels and sand and paint and new tyres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Floki wrote: »
    Anyone know where Reggie's tractor went?;)

    Good 70 - 80hp are like hens teeth though.

    Sounds like a lighter type of tractor then would be suitable so that rules out the Ford. Although I like them.

    Case 4240? If you can get a good one.
    I'm still thinking of that case 4240 that was up on DD with a loader from Kill that would have been perfect. 2 days it was up on DD and it was gone.

    Landini blizzard 85 or landini 8880
    Zetor 6341 or 6441
    Fiat 8894 or NH 6635 ( practically, if not completely identical mechanically)
    John Deere 6110 ( think Buford had one of these)
    Massey 375 or possibly 390

    All of the above are credible options.
    If Lady haywire had a spin in a blizzard 85 I could nearly guarantee that she would buy it. Would be popular in the NW I would think too.

    I wouldn't be a fan of those Case's. From what I know of them, you are as likely to get a lemon as a bombproof one. It's 50/50 with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Years ago feck all had quads and before that all cattle were kept outside.

    Nice 80/100hp tractor with loader would be a lifetime investment.

    Think of the back and especially being female and hurting yourself. No shed here you can turn a tractor in either. Drive in reverse out.

    And a loader on a tractor once out of feeding season should only warrant a premium of maybe 2/3k



    Those are the sort I'd be happy with alright, I just don't want to be spending extra on a loader if it's never going to be used.
    Titanium did make valid points, but certain things he's mentioned can't/won't be done here due to space & land type.

    1- we only stack bales in singles as we've a waste patch behind the shed just for this purpose, it's useless otherwise. Except in the future may add a dry shed on to it but that's yeeeeeears down the line.
    2- Machinery is stored outside/put away straight after use, on pallets, using the spikes and reversing (we are very good at reversing now haha)
    3- Stones/soil moving here is minimal, and i mean extremely rare indeed! Turf is collected with an old wooden trailer, thrown up onto it. I do see the use for a loader here but wouldn't that mean extra chance of getting bogged down? Our bog is quite wet & have to traverse over fields to get to it.
    4- Our shed layout means we can't feed bales by reversing or pushing it in, reversing in with the three bales on spikes is best we can get. Three bay shed with dry shed built opposite, two calving pens mean no tractor can turn with bales in the shed.


    Now I'm not meaning to knock all your suggestions! But nobody around here really has or uses one at all. Only the larger farmers- dairy or contractor fellas- have them. I'm just trying to get the tractor that's most suitable to our needs without all the frills and fancies cause there's always some other hole to fill with spare money!!:)

    No, haven't gone to see the kioti (yet) but it does seem to have very narrow tires, so would look like a strikeout immediately, you'd almost lose the narrow front ones on the Zetor here betimes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    Nekarsulm wrote: »

    Christ that Same tractor looks great value if it's right. And it looks like it's been well minded.
    The oversized tyres are a great job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Same looks the best of those 2, clutch can be an issue in those Valmets.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Same looks the best of those 2, clutch can be an issue in those Valmets.

    all the same needs is a beacon and a set of front fenders/mudguards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Floki wrote: »

    My pick of those would be the fiat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Muckit wrote: »
    My pick of those would be the fiat

    It’s not cheap for a nearly 23 year old piece of machinery.

    That said I’ve heard very little said against them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Lots of food for thought here for me. I'm wondering if I should just release my cousin & uncle up north and see what they find. That's how I came by the quad and it's in fantastic nick :D
    Quite like the 2000 JD 6310 up there, would be my pick of them all so far. Dad says no to Same tractors though, they're 'too long'! And they say women are choosey! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭annubis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    annubis wrote: »

    Expensive considering 24 years old. No loader and not many frills on them zetors.


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