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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    splinter65 wrote: »
    I know exactly where you are. Irish country and western ****e too. Hours and hours and hours of that ****e punctuated by that insanely grinning voice.
    Nightmare.

    Country on RTE Gold. So what???

    there's no harm in the state broadcaster having a random station that plays a mix of any genre ....that is what is missing in stations these days.
    I guess 2FM used to be like that for its first 15 years, trad, country, irish country (as recent as 1999), irish, metal, pop, dance...no format no pre-selected playlist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,651 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Country on RTE Gold. So what???

    there's no harm in the state broadcaster having a random station that plays a mix of any genre ....that is what is missing in stations these days.
    I guess 2FM used to be like that for its first 15 years, trad, country, irish country (as recent as 1999), irish, metal, pop, dance...no format no pre-selected playlist.

    Re your guess above - Simple answer - No

    Country music on gold - no thank you imho


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Country on RTE Gold. So what???

    I think you may have taken the comment out of context :) It was in reference to a local radio station which seems to broadcast hours of country & Irish music.
    There's no harm in the state broadcaster having a random station that plays a mix of any genre ....that is what is missing in stations these days.
    I guess 2FM used to be like that for its first 15 years, trad, country, irish country (as recent as 1999), irish, metal, pop, dance...no format no pre-selected playlist.

    That's bringing back bad memories of that Up ya boy ya Alan Corcoran show on 2fm back in the 1980s. It stuck out like a sore thumb on what was a decent pop music station at the time. It had no business being on 2fm and was probably there only because there was no room for it on Radio 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Presumably the station bosses will already notice if the new schedule is working, given that unlike FM, stream volumes are the principal audience measurements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Phat Dick


    Heard a bit of O Shea today, doesn't sound like he has many listeners and he has a producer. Christ on a bike


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  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,120 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
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    Phat Dick wrote: »
    Heard a bit of O Shea today, doesn't sound like he has many listeners and he has a producer. Christ on a bike
    Well, it's early days yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    sorry to sound like a stuck record but they might get more listeners if they go nationwide on DAB ...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    sorry to sound like a stuck record but they might get more listeners if they go nationwide on DAB ...

    ....or FM!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Phat Dick


    sorry to sound like a stuck record but they might get more listeners if they go nationwide on DAB ...

    Rolling out dab across the country right now would literally bankrupt rte


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Phat Dick wrote: »
    Rolling out dab across the country right now would literally bankrupt rte

    This is where I fail to see how it could, after all RTE must own the main transmitters and relays dont they so they mostly have that on their side. Is it the DAB broadcasting transmitting equipment that they would have to put on the relay towers that would bankrupt them?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Norway, which has a population of 5.2 million, has nationwide DAB coverage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Norway, which has a population of 5.2 million, has nationwide DAB coverage.

    And a lot more money than us.

    RTE can't do it. It would be politicial suicide for the government to fund it because of the way politics works here.

    So it's nothing to do with population, it's just the way it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    And a lot more money than us.

    RTE can't do it. It would be politicial suicide for the government to fund it because of the way politics works here.

    So it's nothing to do with population, it's just the way it is.

    the government to run it? - RTE takes licence fee and advertising doesnt it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    They managed to roll out Saorview and turn off analogue TV, did they not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 872 ✭✭✭More Music


    Norway, which has a population of 5.2 million, has nationwide DAB coverage.

    That doesn’t make them right.

    Norway still has a local FM network.

    Some countries have postponed or halted plans for DAB roll out.

    Others have stopped in the middle of roll out with only partially built networks.

    We’re probably 10 years late to the party.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    So some parts of the country are getting RTE radio stations the rest of us don't, even though we're all paying the same taxes and TV licence fee?


  • Registered Users Posts: 872 ✭✭✭More Music


    Phat Dick wrote: »
    Heard a bit of O Shea today, doesn't sound like he has many listeners and he has a producer. Christ on a bike

    It’s the national broadcaster, a producer or broadcast assistant isn’t much to ask.

    You might as well put some effort into attracting and retaining listeners if you’re going to the bother.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    from an advertising perspective , advertiser want as much of an audience as possible listening to radio ads - so if RTE rolled out nationwide DAB radio signal it could mean more listeners to the advertisers ads. I know RTE Gold dont run adverts (at the moment) but with the other RTE radio stations that do rely on advertising as the licence fee income I would say thats a pretty good selling point to Irish advertisers - FM is old hat now, old technology , bad reception a lot of the time , out of date - Digital clear stereo is where it is at now which for the masses DAB radio's can be really picked up cheap across Ireland in the shops now, however the whole of Ireland cannot receive DAB signal (so thank goodness a lot of the time they include FM on radios and hifi equipment) but you watch not too long off now I reckon manufacturers will drop FM off their audio products soon (as analog TV has been dropped) presuming that everyone can receive a DAB signal nationwide in their country - then we will all be stuffed .

    Sure you can tune in by wi-fi radio's (they are still expensive to buy, not as cheap as DAB Radios) you can listen on on your laptop I suppose, but then you got to have a laptop to hand, you can listen on your phone , but has everyone got enough data in their package to listen to it constantly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 872 ✭✭✭More Music


    So some parts of the country are getting RTE radio stations the rest of us don't, even though we're all paying the same taxes and TV licence fee?

    I known broadband isn’t great in some parts of Ireland. I’m confident though that anybody who’s heard of RTÉ Gold and wants to listen could manage a 96kbps stream.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    More Music wrote: »
    I known broadband isn’t great in some parts of Ireland. I’m confident though that anybody who’s heard of RTÉ Gold and wants to listen could manage a 96kbps stream.

    could it eat into your data plan streaming it by broadband or on your phone?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 872 ✭✭✭More Music


    could it eat into your data plan streaming it by broadband or on your phone?

    Watch one less HD cat video on YouTube. You’ll get a lot of RTE Gold for that.

    Seriously. People watch Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Prime, stream IPTV, download content to their Sky box, use BBC and RTE Players, message videos and photos, watch videos on social media platforms.

    Don’t forget Tunein, Spotify, Apple Music et al.

    We consume so much content now, the list is endless.

    A 96kbps audio stream is pretty insignificant in real terms.

    It’s only an issue for the folks who want to give out about RTE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    More Music wrote: »
    Watch one less HD cat video on YouTube. You’ll get a lot of RTE Gold for that.

    Seriously. People watch Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Prime, stream IPTV, download content to their Sky box, use BBC and RTE Players, message videos and photos, watch videos on social media platforms.

    Don’t forget Tunein, Spotify, Apple Music et al.

    We consume so much content now, the list is endless.

    A 96kbps audio stream is pretty insignificant in real terms.

    It’s only an issue for the folks who want to give out about RTE.

    Yep. If you're unwilling to stream it on your phone, then you won't be falling over yourself to go out and buy a DAB radio.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    from an advertising perspective , advertiser want as much of an audience as possible listening to radio ads - so if RTE rolled out nationwide DAB radio signal it could mean more listeners to the advertisers ads. I know RTE Gold dont run adverts (at the moment) but with the other RTE radio stations that do rely on advertising as the licence fee income I would say thats a pretty good selling point to Irish advertisers - FM is old hat now, old technology , bad reception a lot of the time , out of date - Digital clear stereo is where it is at now which for the masses DAB radio's can be really picked up cheap across Ireland in the shops now, however the whole of Ireland cannot receive DAB signal (so thank goodness a lot of the time they include FM on radios and hifi equipment) but you watch not too long off now I reckon manufacturers will drop FM off their audio products soon (as analog TV has been dropped) presuming that everyone can receive a DAB signal nationwide in their country - then we will all be stuffed .

    Sure you can tune in by wi-fi radio's (they are still expensive to buy, not as cheap as DAB Radios) you can listen on on your laptop I suppose, but then you got to have a laptop to hand, you can listen on your phone , but has everyone got enough data in their package to listen to it constantly.

    Adding to that,a lot of people spend most of their time in cars so it would be nice to have it there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Believe it or not, there are parts of the country where people would dearly love to be able to watch cat videos on YouTube. I was in a relative's house last night and the only Internet signal they have is a snail slow Vodafone one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Believe it or not, there are parts of the country where people would dearly love to be able to watch cat videos on YouTube. I was in a relative's house last night and the only Internet signal they have is a snail slow Vodafone one.

    No doubt, but if the government started rolling out DAB, the first thing you'd hear would be "why are they wasting time and money on DAB when they can't even get rural broadband rolled out?"

    Then you'd have;
    "We can't house the homeless and they're wasting money on DAB"
    "They're killing old people by shutting down LW 252. How is my 90-year old mother going to work a DAB radio?"
    "That's not much use to the diaspora, is it?"
    "I live between two mountains and reception is patchy. I bet it's crystal clear in Dublin though".
    "This will be the death of local radio, not that anyone in Dublin 4 cares about that"

    The list is endless.

    No one really wants DAB and spending more public money on it is opening a wasp's nest and sticking your honey-covered face right in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    It's not just rural areas where broadband is poor or non existent. I'd much rather see that be sorted. RTE already has the masts though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Phat Dick


    could it eat into your data plan streaming it by broadband or on your phone?

    Yes, if you haven't updated your data plan since about 2006


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Try being on Vodafone in an area where you can't get more than Edge on other networks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Phat Dick


    No doubt, but if the government started rolling out DAB, the first thing you'd hear would be "why are they wasting time and money on DAB when they can't even get rural broadband rolled out?"

    Then you'd have;
    "We can't house the homeless and they're wasting money on DAB"
    "They're killing old people by shutting down LW 252. How is my 90-year old mother going to work a DAB radio?"
    "That's not much use to the diaspora, is it?"
    "I live between two mountains and reception is patchy. I bet it's crystal clear in Dublin though".
    "This will be the death of local radio, not that anyone in Dublin 4 cares about that"
    Further
    The list is endless.

    No one really wants DAB and spending more public money on it is opening a wasp's nest and sticking your honey-covered face right in.

    In fairness it would be a waste of tax payers money if the government rolled out Dab so that a few housewives down the country could hear rte gold.... if they'd even buy a dab radio


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Phat Dick


    Try being on Vodafone in an area where you can't get more than Edge on other networks.

    Vodafone were always the most expensive but they are are currently doing 5gb for €15 a month, more than enough for a few hours a day of internet radio


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