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Extratropical Storm Ophelia - Technical Analysis Only - MOD NOTE post #1

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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,511 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Does anybody else have that urge to tell friends and family there could be a very significant storm coming,but you don't won't to end up looking a fool,if it doesn't come off.

    I'm saying nothing until closer to the event. I'm not going to make a langer of myself if this misses us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    Will i take the washing in so?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,121 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Does anybody else have that urge to tell friends and family there could be a very significant storm coming,but you don't won't to end up looking a fool,if it doesn't come off.


    I’ve already done that and got the usual “arra it won’t happen!”


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Does anybody else have that urge to tell friends and family there could be a very significant storm coming,but you don't won't to end up looking a fool,if it doesn't come off.


    Most rags and the internet beat you to it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    Does anybody else have that urge to tell friends and family there could be a very significant storm coming,but you don't won't to end up looking a fool,if it doesn't come off.

    That counts for every event thread here.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Hang on so it's now a CAT 2 hurricane and the NHC have it as a hurricane over Ireland ?

    Any of the experts here want to give any advice as to how this could change by Monday for the better for us ?

    They have hurricane force winds over us but not a hurricane(once it changes to a white circle its no longer a hurricane), big difference in terms of rainfall and organisation of winds, even the wind is just about borderline category 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Comparison between the 4pm and 10pm forecasts:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Kalyke




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Looks like the nhc are thinking gfs has it too far West.....and not for the first time have they gone against the US model.

    In fact the gfs has been very poor this Autumn


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,522 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Does anybody else have that urge to tell friends and family there could be a very significant storm coming,but you don't won't to end up looking a fool,if it doesn't come off.

    I'll be warning my elderly neighbours to stock up on torches/candles anyway, or letting them know I'll have some if they need them. It doesn't take much to knock the power out and it's dark early this time of year. At least it should stay relatively warm.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    They have hurricane force winds over us but not a hurricane(once it changes to a white circle its no longer a hurricane), big difference in terms of rainfall and organisation of winds, even the wind is just about borderline category 1.

    Thanks, you summed up the difference much better than my meandering nattering. Still though, 120km/h sustained winds is not to be sniffed at.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Ophelia to head straight for Hamlet states weatherman


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭scooby77


    aisling86 wrote: »
    If a level 3 warning is issued, do schools close? It wouldn't have been something I had to think about previous years....

    "Status Red Weather Warning for Wind

    Schools should note in particular Status Red weather warnings where strong winds or storm
    conditions are forecasted. Due to the high degree of unpredictability as to the impact of the
    weather associated with such a Status Red warning on local conditions schools should use the
    following guidance to assist them in making their assessment.
    Status Red weather warning for wind related conditions may be given in advance of a school
    opening or it may arise during the day while a school is underway.

    Advance Warning of Status Red
    Following consultation at a national level with the Office of Emergency Planning and the
    management bodies for schools, the Department of Education and Skills’ advice to schools is
    that they should consider not opening where a Status Red weather warning related to wind is
    forecast to coincide with the period/s during which students and staff would be expected to be
    travelling to and from school.
    Whether the school should open later in the day where an improvement to the weather is
    forecast is a decision which should be taken in consultation with An Garda Síochána, the local
    authorities, school transport services and other appropriate agencies based in the school’s area."
    From Dept guidance in 2015. They rarely orders closure, but this as near as it gets!


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭JiffyJ


    Ophelia to head straight for Hamlet states weatherman

    To be, or not to be. That is the question...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    JiffyJ wrote: »
    To be, or not to be. That is the question...

    Soft you now,The fair Ophelia?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,071 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    This weekend might be a good time to make a little emergency box for the house.
    Torches /batteries/ candles etc. Sort out my camping stove and buy some water.

    I've a well, so no power, means no water.

    Or am I over reacting ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 589 ✭✭✭Chicken Run


    mikeecho wrote: »
    This weekend might be a good time to make a little emergency box for the house.
    Torches /batteries/ candles etc. Sort out my camping stove and buy some water.

    I've a well, so no power, means no water.

    Or am I over reacting ?
    IMO you can never be too prepared....
    (Plenty of biscuits too....)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    This shows just how bizarre this event is.

    https://twitter.com/splillo/status/918588394682437632


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    18Z GFS at +96 hrs. Still not playing ball with the other models it seems. Sending it on a more westerly track.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    You can see how Ophelia is sandwiched between two areas of HP, each area would help to give it rotation and the jet perfectly poised to steer it in towards us.

    NOAA

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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,137 ✭✭✭✭km79


    GO WEST there are no people there



    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Just sticking the 5pm (EDT) NHC chart in here as a screen shot for future reference. I've never seen a 'H' over Ireland before, even if it is showing the system as extra-tropical by then.

    Mam's Mam remembered Debbie in 1961. She was in Westport in Co. Mayo at the time. Her abiding memory was the sheer amount of stuff flying around. Roof slates etc.

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    I live underneath that H:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,522 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    mikeecho wrote: »
    This weekend might be a good time to make a little emergency box for the house.
    Torches /batteries/ candles etc. Sort out my camping stove and buy some water.

    I've a well, so no power, means no water.

    Or am I over reacting ?

    Imo always a good idea to have that kind of thing around, and one of those big 5l water bottles that you can store empty and fill just before any weather event is going to happen. None of it is perishable, and it doesn't take up a whole lot of room. Very rare that you'd have to use it in Ireland, but having it already beats having to rush out last minute to grab it, or not having it at all.

    I remember I knew some families on the US East coast, and when they knew there was some heavy snowfall on the way, they'd fill the bathtubs with water, just in case!


  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭xii


    is it time to dust off Monopoly, and candles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I'm torn between staying at home on Monday to keep an eye on things and going in to work, I'm starting to fear I could come back to a ruin!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    18Z GFS at +96 hrs. Still not playing ball with the other models it seems. Sending it on a more westerly track.

    It seems to me that it is a bit more E than the last run. The GFS is not showing winds as strong as the European models at this stage.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,897 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Fire up the powerbanks. Get a few batteries for the torches, a few candles (and matches!), I never remember to have them. Water is unlikely to be cut off but no harm to get a few bottles anyway. Food that you can eat without cooking it. If you only have electricity that is.

    That's my priority prepping!

    Getting very worried now, but have to park it till Saturday. We might know more tomorrow though.

    Thank you to all who have the knowledge to interpret all the charts, and the inside track and are keeping us posted. Will be keeping an eye on this thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Soccarboy11


    So the general consensus is that Cork will get a hammering? Have a house in West cork, by Rosscarbery so wondering if I need to scrap my plans and go down there this weekend to tie everything down! Directly across from the Ocean in Owenahinca!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭xii


    So the general consensus is that Cork will get a hammering? Have a house in West cork, by Rosscarbery so wondering if I need to scrap my plans and go down there this weekend to tie everything down! Directly across from the Ocean in Owenahinca!

    I think Japan will be OK. :D


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