Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

OOnegative · 31-12-2018 10:46pm

https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006628/article/antonio-brown-skipped-walkthrough-left-game-early?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Daround-the-league%3Bteam%3Dcin%3Bteam%3Dpit%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bdvsn%3Dacn%3Bplyr%3Dbenjamin_roethlisberger%3Bplyr%3Dantonio_brown%3Bplyr%3Djohn_smith-schuster&p.ct=Around+the+NFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23fff&p.bgc1m=%230964bf&p.bgc2m=%23053a74&sr=amp

More unwanted controversy.

The_Honeybadger · 31-12-2018 11:20pm

OOnegative wrote: »

https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006628/article/antonio-brown-skipped-walkthrough-left-game-early?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Daround-the-league%3Bteam%3Dcin%3Bteam%3Dpit%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bdvsn%3Dacn%3Bplyr%3Dbenjamin_roethlisberger%3Bplyr%3Dantonio_brown%3Bplyr%3Djohn_smith-schuster&p.ct=Around+the+NFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23fff&p.bgc1m=%230964bf&p.bgc2m=%23053a74&sr=amp

More unwanted controversy.

Bust up with Rothliesberger allegedly. They had been sniping at each other on the field earlier in the season too so I wouldn’t be surprised.

Apparently left at half time on Sunday in the most important game of the year. Crazy if true.

Itssoeasy · 01-01-2019 3:54am

That kind of controversy is very un steeler like. The Steelers normally run a very tight ship.

The_Honeybadger · 01-01-2019 1:34pm

Is it that tight? AB went awol earlier in the season as well and it was only last January he put a private teamtalk out on Facebook live. He is also being sued for off the field issues where he threw a telly out a window and nearly hit a pedestrian, whatever that was about. Not to mention the group of players that ransacked Le’Veon’s locker and put it out on social media.

OOnegative · 01-01-2019 1:52pm

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

Is it that tight? AB went awol earlier in the season as well and it was only last January he put a private teamtalk out on Facebook live. He is also being sued for off the field issues where he threw a telly out a window and nearly hit a pedestrian, whatever that was about. Not to mention the group of players that ransacked Le’Veon’s locker and put it out on social media.

Santonio Holmes won MVP at 2008 Super Bowl & seemed bullit proof, next thing he’s traded to the Jets. Don’t be surprised if AB is catching passes somewhere else next season. One thing that is for definite, Tomlin has lost control of the locker room.

The_Honeybadger · 01-01-2019 2:30pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Santonio Holmes won MVP at 2008 Super Bowl & seemed bullit proof, next thing he’s traded to the Jets. Don’t be surprised if AB is catching passes somewhere else next season. One thing that is for definite, Tomlin has lost control of the locker room.

AB’s contract makes him virtually untradeable and the Steelers go from a possible contender to average without him we saw that on Sunday. Best thing all around would be for him to sort his head out he is my favourite player but the guy is clearly a bit nuts.

OOnegative · 01-01-2019 3:02pm

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

AB’s contract makes him virtually untradeable and the Steelers go from a possible contender to average without him we saw that on Sunday. Best thing all around would be for him to sort his head out he is my favourite player but the guy is clearly a bit nuts.

Not disagreeing with anything you say apart from the untradeable bit, every player has a price. It’s going to an interesting off-season in the Steel City.

OOnegative · 01-01-2019 3:51pm

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/ContentGallery/Pittsburgh-Steelers-announce-2019-opponents-127074503/Amp/

Opponents for 2019.

The_Honeybadger · 01-01-2019 4:34pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Not disagreeing with anything you say apart from the untradeable bit, every player has a price. It’s going to an interesting off-season in the Steel City.

There are so few that could afford him and even then what would you give up for a 30 year old with all his baggage. I don’t think you’d get all that much for him tbh. Jets might be a good fit but I can’t see him being traded.

OOnegative · 01-01-2019 7:53pm

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Antonio-Brown-trade-request-127148046/Amp/

Didn’t take long.

The_Honeybadger · 02-01-2019 10:49pm

OOnegative wrote: »

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Antonio-Brown-trade-request-127148046/Amp/

Didn’t take long.

He isn’t taking calls from the team or owner supposedly. The whole thing is very ugly and will be hard to come back from.

Difficult to know what you could get for him at his age. He will be 31 at the start of the 2019 season. 49ers or Jets might be interested but would they give up a top 5 pick for him? I doubt it.

OOnegative · 02-01-2019 11:06pm

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

He isn’t taking calls from the team or owner supposedly. The whole thing is very ugly and will be hard to come back from.

Difficult to know what you could get for him at his age. He will be 31 at the start of the 2019 season. 49ers or Jets might be interested but would they give up a top 5 pick for him? I doubt it.

He ain’t going to be there next year, weather it’s via trade or the Steelers cut there losses with him. Nobody wants a locker walking on eggshells afraid of what they say/do in case they hurt AB’s feelings.

dfx- · 02-01-2019 11:57pm

OOnegative wrote: »

He ain’t going to be there next year, weather it’s via trade or the Steelers cut there losses with him. Nobody wants a locker walking on eggshells afraid of what they say/do in case they hurt AB’s feelings.

Tomlin's press conference seemed like he was pretty fed up with him.

I'm more concerned right now that the OL coach is being interviewed by and could go to Denver.

OOnegative · 03-01-2019 12:04am

dfx- wrote: »

I'm more concerned right now that the OL coach is being interviewed by and could go to Denver.

They can have Butler no bother!!

The_Honeybadger · 03-01-2019 5:21pm

OOnegative wrote: »

He ain’t going to be there next year, weather it’s via trade or the Steelers cut there losses with him. Nobody wants a locker walking on eggshells afraid of what they say/do in case they hurt AB’s feelings.

It seems the cap hit is €6m if he is traded and not the €20m + initially touted so it’s very feasible to trade him if they can get a reasonable offer. It seems his relationship with Tomlin and certain teammates has completely broken down so maybe it’s the best thing all around.

If SF would trade picks in the first round and give Pittsburgh their second round pick I’d take it, although it’s a bit of a stretch from a SF point of view. Their offence with Garoppolo Kittle and Brown would be awesome and they still keep a first round pick. Steelers could either trade back or get Bens eventual replacement unless they think Rudolf is going to be good enough. It would also free up lots of Cap space for FA to try to give the team a bit more balance.

Foxtrol · 03-01-2019 6:10pm

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

It seems the cap hit is €6m if he is traded and not the €20m + initially touted so it’s very feasible to trade him if they can get a reasonable offer. It seems his relationship with Tomlin and certain teammates has completely broken down so maybe it’s the best thing all around.

If SF would trade picks in the first round and give Pittsburgh their second round pick I’d take it. Their offence with Garoppolo Kittle and Brown would be awesome and they still keep a first round pick. Steelers could either trade back or get Bens eventual replacement unless they think Rudolf is going to be good enough. It would also free up lots of Cap space for FA to try to give the team a bit more balance.

Think you’re dreaming if you believe you’re getting that high pick for AB. He’ll be a 31 year old WR, causing a ton of drama at his current team, with one of the most expensive contracts for the position. I’d be shocked if you got more than something like a late 1st round or a high 2nd round in 2019 or a 2020 1st and to me any of those would be still over paying for him.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have AB on the 49ers but giving the #2 pick would be utter madness and I can’t see them doing that. You’d have needed to trade him 2 years ago to get that sort of pick.

The_Honeybadger · 03-01-2019 6:30pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

Think you’re dreaming if you believe you’re getting that high pick for AB. He’ll be a 31 year old WR, causing a ton of drama at his current team, with one of the most expensive contracts for the position. I’d be shocked if you got more than something like a late 1st round or a high 2nd round in 2019 or a 2020 1st and to me any of those would be still over paying for him.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have AB on the 49ers but giving the #2 pick would be utter madness and I can’t see them doing that. You’d have needed to trade him 2 years ago to get that sort of pick.

You’re right a late first round pick or an early second pick and a later one is probably as good as we should expect. Looks like he is done in Pittsburgh anyway so we’ll know soon enough I suppose.

OOnegative · 03-01-2019 6:33pm

For an organisation that normally runs a steady, controversy free ship there has been some major bust ups between the Steelers and some great players in the past 12 months. Harrison, Bell and now AB.

The_Honeybadger · 03-01-2019 7:06pm

OOnegative wrote: »

For an organisation that normally runs a steady, controversy free ship there has been some major bust ups between the Steelers and some great players in the past 12 months. Harrison, Bell and now AB.

Harrison just wanted more (or any) snaps, and with Bell it was purely about money. I can understand where both were coming from and why they felt undervalued by the organisation even if they were in the wrong.

Brown is different, he has gotten the big contract and is the undisputed star of the team, he really has no reason to be throwing his toys out of the pram.

OOnegative · 03-01-2019 8:05pm

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

Brown is different, he has gotten the big contract and is the undisputed star of the team, he really has no reason to be throwing his toys out of the pram.

He’s throwing the toys out of the pram cause Ju Ju won MVP for the Steelers had more catches & receiving yards this season. He feels threatened so hence throwing a wobbler when the young dog shows him up a bit & takes some of his spotlight and glory away.

The_Honeybadger · 03-01-2019 8:53pm

OOnegative wrote: »

He’s throwing the toys out of the pram cause Ju Ju won MVP for the Steelers had more catches & receiving yards this season. He feels threatened so hence throwing a wobbler when the young dog shows him up a bit & takes some of his spotlight and glory away.

I think the issues go back further but who knows what’s really going on with him he’s obviously a bit of a headcase. He was on some reality TV karaoke show the last night dressed in a hippo suit FFS. This must have been filmed during the season when the team was very much still in contention and he should have had other priorities.

Frankie Cortese · 04-01-2019 11:19am

I remember a lot of NFL teams & scouts getting grief because AB went down to the 6th round the year he was drafted.

Now, maybe Pitt get a 1st rounder for him, I don’t know, but did he dropped that far down because teams knew about him & didn’t like the mans personality & didn’t want to take the risk?

dfx- · 04-01-2019 12:39pm

This is also the first time AB has been really challenged at WR by Juju in terms of personality (being chosen as player of the year by his teammates) and the amount of times Ben went to Juju at key times this season. The revisionism of previous stuff has to be seen in that light.

I don't think there's enough depth at WR to be immediately dumping him as last Sunday showed. Juju as no 1 WR means he'll be covered out of the game by the likes of Belichick.

There are also so many other replacements needed...

OOnegative · 04-01-2019 6:17pm

Getting rid of Joey Porter as linebackers coach, he ain’t the problem on the Defense!!

The_Honeybadger · 05-01-2019 1:56am

OOnegative wrote: »

Getting rid of Joey Porter as linebackers coach, he ain’t the problem on the Defense!!

More changes expected as well. What is the status of Butlers contract I can’t find anything about it online?

The team is crying out for a clearout and a fresh start on defence.

dfx- · 06-01-2019 11:56pm

Looking at the Baltimore LA game and think the Steelers put up 30 points on the LA defense:(

Although a good sign that Jackson isn't the second coming yet. Mayfield said last week the two of them are going to dominate the AFC North for years to come..

OOnegative · 07-01-2019 10:34pm

RB coach James Saxon after getting the bullet.

Tom Mann Centuria · 08-01-2019 12:16am

Steelers just don't like sacking head coaches do they?

OOnegative · 08-01-2019 12:20am

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Steelers just don't like sacking head coaches do they?

Whatever about Tomlin, if Keith Butler doesn’t walk this off-season it’s a joke.

Itssoeasy · 08-01-2019 12:47am

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Steelers just don't like sacking head coaches do they?

Three head coaches in 50 years suggests no.

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