Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

Crash Bang Wall

tanko wrote: »

Looked well wide on TV also.

Would also say that the pen was a great tackle by the keeper.....knocked the ball out of his hands first.....the tangle after is irrelevant for me

Boom__Boom

munster87 wrote: »

Think Gavin Crowley will have a big year, missing as well yesterday?

I knew there was someone I was forgetting.

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Would also say that the pen was a great tackle by the keeper.....knocked the ball out of his hands first.....the tangle after is irrelevant for me

In fairness O'Rourke agrees with you.

http://examiner.ie/sport/gaa/malachy-orourke-admits-penalty-call-was-harsh-on-kerry-467328.html

Boom__Boom

D'Agger wrote: »

Enter Mikey Geaney, stage right

There will be unholy war if Fitzmaurice reverts to the older guys en masse for the championship.

Still a fair bit of disgruntlement around the place over last year.

DDC1990

Great effort from Murphy to be fair.

Fr Tod Umptious

Boom__Boom wrote: »

There will be unholy war if Fitzmaurice reverts to the older guys en masse for the championship.

Still a fair bit of disgruntlement around the place over last year.

So if the championship was to start on Sunday who would you pick from the recent league games ?

Murphy over Kelly in goals ?

Foley over Griffin ?

Brian Beaglah on the wing instead of Young ?

I'd definitely have O' Shea in the half forward line over M. Geaney or Walsh.

Not sure about anyone else.

The_Honeybadger

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

So if the championship was to start on Sunday who would you pick from the recent league games ?

Murphy over Kelly in goals ?

Foley over Griffin ?

Brian Beaglah on the wing instead of Young ?

I'd definitely have O' Shea in the half forward line over M. Geaney or Walsh.

Not sure about anyone else.

If championship starts Sunday I’d go with

Murphy (Just)
O’Beaglaoich, Foley, Enright
G. Crowley, P. Crowley, Murphy
Barry, Moran
Burns, O’Shea, O’Brien
Clifford, Geaney, JOD

You could switch people and put Morley, Shanahan or Tom O’Sullivan in at 2, 5 or 6 without weakening the team, Morley will probably be in the half back line come the summer tbh. Things could change a lot when everyone is back and a few games under their belt.

JOD is the big question, if he could get back fit and anywhere near his form of years ago we are a different team. Really hope he gets back on track this year it must be soul destroying for him.

There’s 7 players above that weren’t starting last year which would be a huge turnover. There will be a lot of pressure on Eamon to keep the young lads on the team now, unless they tank completely during the rest of the league. Either way the experience they have gained will be very valuable in the years to come.

Claregaafan18

Big news that the Corn Ui Mhuiri final between PCD and Tralee CBS due to take place tomorrow has been called off due to "unforeseen circumstances".

Details of the re-fixture will be announced early next week.

DDC1990

The Kerry Senior Football Team v Galway AFL Round 4 Sunday 25th February 2018



1 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion

2 Shane Enright Tarbert

3 Jason Foley Ballydonoghue

4 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks

5 Paul Murphy Rathmore

6 Peter Crowley Laune Rangers

7 Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht

8 Jack Barry Na Gaeil

9 Barry O’Sullivan Dingle

10 Micheál Burns (Captain) Dr. Crokes

11 Séan O’Shea Kenmare

12 Stephen O’Brien Kenmare

13 David Clifford Fossa

14 Paul Geaney Dingle

15 Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys



Fir Ionaid:

16 Shane Murphy Dr. Crokes

17 Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia

18 Éanna Ó Conchúir An Ghaeltacht

19 Tom O’Sullivan Dingle

20 Dáithí Casey Dr. Croke

21 Michael Geaney Dingle

22 Killian Spillane Templenoe

23 Matthew Flaherty Dingle

24 Brian Ó Seanacháin Ballydonoghue

25 Fionn Fitzgerald Dr. Crokes

26 Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore

27 Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys

28 Cormac Coffey Kerins O’Rahillys

ShamoBuc

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Big news that the Corn Ui Mhuiri final between PCD and Tralee CBS due to take place tomorrow has been called off due to "unforeseen circumstances".

Details of the re-fixture will be announced early next week.

Yeah, looks like it's developed into a very serious situation, right decision.

ciarriaithuaidh

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Yeah, looks like it's developed into a very serious situation, right decision.

Is that the young lad who got injured during the week? Terrible if it's serious enough to postpone game.

ShamoBuc

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Is that the young lad who got injured during the week? Terrible if it's serious enough to postpone game.

Yes.

Kerrydude1981

Kerry Senior Hurling Team v Meath

Allianz Hurling League Round 4 Sunday February 25th, 2018



1 Martin Stackpoole Lixnaw

2 John Buckley Lixnaw

3 Bryan Murphy Causeway

4 Sean Weir Crotta O’Neills

5 Tomás O’Connor Crotta O’Neills

6 Mikey Boyle Ballyduff

7 Daniel Collins Kilmoyley

8 Brandon Barrett Causeway

9 Dáithí Griffin St. Brendans Ardfert

10 Paudie O’Connor Kilmoyley

11 Padraig Boyle (captain) Ballyduff

12 Brendan O’Leary Abbeydorney

13 Jack Goulding Ballyduff

14 Shane Conway Lixnaw

15 Jordan Conway Crotta O’Neills



Fir Ionaid:

16 Stephen Murphy Causeway

17 James O’Connor Abbeydorney

18 Darren Dineen St Brendans Ardfert

19 Colum Harty Causeway

20 Shane Nolan Crotta O’Neills

21 Maurice O’Connor Kilmoyley

22 Daniel O’Carroll Ballyduff

23 Barry O’Mahony Crotta O’Neills

24 Philip Lucid Ballyheigue

25 Pa Kelly Clarecastle

26 Tom Murnane Kilmoyley

SecretsOfEarth

I'm aware that this game isn't over but listening on Radio Kerry it seems like the more things change, the more they stay the same. Galway walking through the defence and creating at least 4 blatant goal chances - what is this persistent issue of us being cut open completely? It's so exasperating and demoralising.

dobman88

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Yeah, looks like it's developed into a very serious situation, right decision.

Very sad. 2 young lives lost in 24 hours. Young man from PSCD and Amy O Connor from Killarney who lifted the cup at the club final with Johnny Buckley. Always hard to hear about children passing away. RIP to both.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Jesus awful to hear about that young fella from Dingle. Really puts things into perspective. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.
Heard it was a collision of some sort - hopefully the other young lad involved doesn't suffer any lasting effects. Can only imagine what it would be like to be involved in an incident like that.

ShamoBuc

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

Jesus awful to hear about that young fella from Dingle. Really puts things into perspective. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.
Heard it was a collision of some sort - hopefully the other young lad involved doesn't suffer any lasting effects. Can only imagine what it would be like to be involved in an incident like that.

Awful news. Only 14.

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a h-anam.

DDC1990

Obviously with the sad news from Dingle and Killarney it puts the disappointment of losing the game in context.

Management need to sort out the defensive structure.

The kickput plan of "pull the backs so there can't be any short kickouts" is bizzare and ugly. Effective today though.

Pace is a huge issue in defence with our backs matching up man to man. We must have given away 10 frees for pushing a Galway man in the back as well. Its a basic rule but we give away so many frees for it.

The Monaghan game had a huge effect on our legs. Struggled midway through the second half before getting a bit of energy back late.

We could do with the snow next week and the match next Saturday being put off a week. To have to reload and go again against Dublin will be very difficult.

The_Honeybadger

DDC1990 wrote: »

Obviously with the sad news from Dingle and Killarney it puts the disappointment of losing the game in context.

Management need to sort out the defensive structure.

The kickput plan of "pull the backs so there can't be any short kickouts" is bizzare and ugly. Effective today though.

Pace is a huge issue in defence with our backs matching up man to man. We must have given away 10 frees for pushing a Galway man in the back as well. Its a basic rule but we give away so many frees for it.

The Monaghan game had a huge effect on our legs. Struggled midway through the second half before getting a bit of energy back late.

We could do with the snow next week and the match next Saturday being put off a week. To have to reload and go again against Dublin will be very difficult.

The defence has been porous since Marc and Aidan O’Mahoney left. We don’t have any leaders back there. The amount of unnecessary frees we give away is very worrying and I have no confidence that it will be fixed for the summer. We could have given away five goals today but for some good saves by Kelly and some wasteful shooting by Galway.

Galway are well ahead of us in terms of fitness and preparation at this stage if today is anything to go by so I would not be overly concerned about the result. We will improve far more than they will by May. I was very impressed with them all the same.

Kerry have serious work to do between now and the championship. We need to hold on to Div 1 status as well, so we need to beat Kildare and / or Tyrone. I wouldn’t give us a prayer against Dublin in Croker but I hope I’m wrong.

Special mention to Clifford today, thought he was excellent and kicked some lovely scores despite being well watched. I was worried that he was being promoted too soon but he looks well able for it.

Jim Gazebo

dobman88 wrote: »

Very sad. 2 young lives lost in 24 hours. Young man from PSCD and Amy O Connor from Killarney who lifted the cup at the club final with Johnny Buckley. Always hard to hear about children passing away. RIP to both.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1803170556401994&id=143259019059831 sorry for jumping into your thread, but saw this today and it brought a tear to my eye. Heartbreaking. RIP.

DDC1990

All matches this weekend postponed.

An extra week to prepare for the Dubs it is.

Bonniedog

"The Weather Watchers Watchful Committee (WWWC) met by tele-conference this morning as most members were snowed in or asleep, and voted by 6 votes to 5, to postpone all the weekend's matches, despite an amendment which proposed that the decision be left to the referee at each venue up to half an hour before throw-in.

"One member expressed the view that they would wake up on Saturday and the snow will all have melted, and that 'we'll look like right fkn eijits then'."

dobman88

Bonniedog wrote: »

"The Weather Watchers Watchful Committee (WWWC) met by tele-conference this morning as most members were snowed in or asleep, and voted by 6 votes to 5, to postpone all the weekend's matches, despite an amendment which proposed that the decision be left to the referee at each venue up to half an hour before throw-in.

"One member expressed the view that they would wake up on Saturday and the snow will all have melted, and that 'we'll look like right fkn eijits then'."

Please tell me that's satire?

Bonniedog

dobman88 wrote: »

Please tell me that's satire?

You would never know with them boys

Derry CB acted under the assumption that a blazing sun was going to miraculously appear, and thaw out Celtic Park a few weeks ago despite it still being frozen two hours before the match, by which stage the Offaly team and supporters had arrived.

dobman88

Bonniedog wrote: »

You would never know with them boys .

This was my first thought unfortunately.

Same As

Good frank interview with Bryan Sheehan on this week's RTE GAA Podcast, worth a listen.

Boom__Boom

Same As wrote: »

Good frank interview with Bryan Sheehan on this week's RTE GAA Podcast, worth a listen.

Once again the general vibe here seems all wrong in terms of lads deciding to retire under Fitzmaurice.

Bryan seems to be the latest to come out and say it was pretty much his decision to retire as opposed to being told by Fitzmaurice that his time was up.

Seems to be the same vibe in terms of deciding to retire that was there with Galvin, Marc, Cooper, Aidan, Declan. I don't think Fitzmaurice has told one of the older guard that their time was up. Maybe a small thing but just drives me spare.

JohnBoy26

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Once again the general vibe here seems all wrong in terms of lads deciding to retire under Fitzmaurice.

Bryan seems to be the latest to come out and say it was pretty much his decision to retire as opposed to being told by Fitzmaurice that his time was up.

Seems to be the same vibe in terms of deciding to retire that was there with Galvin, Marc, Cooper, Aidan, Declan. I don't think Fitzmaurice has told one of the older guard that their time was up. Maybe a small thing but just drives me spare.

I think if some of them stayed on I could see him still picking them ahead of the younger players come championship.

Kerrydude1981

The Kerry Senior Football Team v Dublin



AFL Round 5 Sunday 11th March 2018



1 Shane Murphy (Captain) Dr. Crokes

2 Shane Enright Tarbert

3 Jason Foley Ballydonoghue

4 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks

5 Paul Murphy Rathmore

6 Peter Crowley Laune Rangers

7 Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht

8 Jack Barry Na Gaeil

9 Barry O’Sullivan Dingle

10 Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes

11 Séan O’Shea Kenmare

12 Adrian Spillane Templenoe

13 David Clifford Fossa

14 Paul Geaney Dingle

15 Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin



Fir Ionaid:

16 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion

17 Barry John Keane Kerins O'Rahillys

18 Tom O’Sullivan Dingle

19 Éanna Ó Conchúir An Ghaeltacht

20 Matthew Flaherty Dingle

21 Dáithí Casey Dr. Crokes

22 Michael Geaney Dingle

23 Fionn Fitzgerald Dr. Crokes

24 Mark Griffin St. Michaels/Foilmore

25 Jack Savage Kerins O'Rahillys

26 David Moran Kerins O'Rahillys

Kerrydude1981

Kerry Senior Hurling Team v Westmeath

Allianz Hurling League Round 5 Sunday March 11th, 2018



1 Martin Stackpoole Lixnaw

2 John Buckley Lixnaw

3 Bryan Murphy Causeway

4 Sean Weir Crotta O’Neills

5 Tomás O’Connor Crotta O’Neills

6 Mikey Boyle Ballyduff

7 Daniel Collins Kilmoyley

8 Brandon Barrett Causeway

9 Paudie O'Connor Kilmoyley

10 Dáithí Griffin St. Brendans Ardfert

11 Padraig Boyle (captain) Ballyduff

12 Brendan O’Leary Abbeydorney

13 Jordan Conway Crotta O'Neills

14 Shane Conway Lixnaw

15 Jack Goulding Ballyduff



Fir Ionaid:

16 Stephen Murphy Causeway

17 Darren Dineen St. Brendans Ardfert

18 Tom Murnane Kilmoyley

19 James O'Connor Abbeydorney

20 Barry O'Mahony Crotta O'Neills

21 Daniel O’Carroll Ballyduff

22 Pa Kelly Clarecastle

23 Maurice O'Connor Kilmoyley

24 Philip Lucid Ballyheigue

25 Colum Harty Causeway

26 Shane Nolan Crotta O'Neills

Kerrydude1981

Also this weekend is a massive weekend for the clubs and the club players of the county,County League starts,

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/125261/

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/125264/

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/125262/

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/125265/

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/125263/

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/league/125266/

mystic86

We really need a change in management.

orangerhyme

Kerry were good for first 1/4 but in 2nd and 3rd 1/4s Dublin turned on the turbo and were lethal.
They're pace when running at Kerry was too hot to handle.

Dublin could've had at least 4 more goals.

acequion

mystic86 wrote: »

We really need a change in management.

This x 1.000!

Jesus we got Paudi to step down and at the time Paudi was doing a way better job than what's being done now.

It's extremely depressing how pedestrian Kerry football has become, for a county who were once the torch bearers. And yet our county board insists on keeping the same unsuccessful incumbent for the past four years.

And sorry but one league and one A1 in this county in 4 years is unsuccessful or are we grateful for crumbs now!

I'm so very glad I didn't renew my season ticket this year.

Same As

mystic86 wrote: »

We really need a change in management.

The players need to take some responsibility also for the complete capitulation in the second half.

Some of the substitutions completely boggled me.

acequion

Same As wrote: »

The players need to take some responsibility also for the complete capitulation in the second half.

Some of the substitutions completely boggled me.

Players reflect how they are managed. A top class management team reflects itself in top class performances on the field, leadership and chemistry between players.In short quality management makes for a quality team. Especially where there is talent and this Kerry squad have talent.

Our management is useless. No point blaming the chickens for being headless.

Prop Joe

Kerry train 3 nights a week for 90mins...What the hell are the management coaching these guys??

Beechwoodspark

Will there be pressure on the management team after this?

The_Honeybadger

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Will there be pressure on the management team after this?

No chance. Fitzmaurice is there until the end of the year at least. It’s March and we are missing experienced first team men like Morley and Moran who would have made a big difference today. Half the team are in their debut season. We are also clearly weeks behind Dublin in terms of preparation and fitness.

The result is really not all that surprising given the above. We have huge room for improvement and there is great potential in this team. I have reservations myself, but people need to lay off the management and get behind the team. I dread to think what Terrace talk will be like tomorrow evening!!

Powerhouse

acequion wrote: »

This x 1.000!

Jesus we got Paudi to step down and at the time Paudi was doing a way better job than what's being done now.

It's extremely depressing how pedestrian Kerry football has become, for a county who were once the torch bearers. And yet our county board insists on keeping the same unsuccessful incumbent for the past four years.

And sorry but one league and one A1 in this county in 4 years is unsuccessful or are we grateful for crumbs now!

I'm so very glad I didn't renew my season ticket this year.

To be fair to the manager Kerry have one League and one AI in EIGHT years. These issues did not necessarily begin on his watch.

It might also be argued that Kerry have actually been very good for most of Fitzmaurice's reign but ran into an exceptional Dublin team a lot of the time.

JohnBoy26

Powerhouse wrote: »

To be fair to the manager Kerry have one League and one AI in EIGHT years. These issues did not necessarily begin on his watch.

It might also be argued that Kerry have actually been very good for most of Fitzmaurice's reign but ran into an exceptional Dublin team a lot of the time.

An all ireland and a league is a good achievement no matter what county it is, but he has made some big blunders too and was too slow and too stubborn in bringing youth into the squad.

DDC1990

1: Murphy : 7 Some nice kickouts. Good speed at times. Great save from Howard. Then kicked balls over the sideline. Kicked a 50/50 towards Paul Murphy who had Brian ****ing Fenton making him. Palmed the ball weakly for Dublin's second goal.

2: Enright: 7 Some crucial shoulders on players running through, stopping a bad situation becoming worse. Basquel was quiet, but kicked 2 points off him.

3: Foley: 7 Considering the amount of ball that was coming in, handled Rock reasonably well from play. Still looks very light.

4: Shanahan: 7 Though he was Kerry's man of the match while in Croke Park, but I've since read that Andrews got 3 points from play off him. Visually looked very good though, got hands in well and made some excellent tackles. A bit slow for Croker I fear.

5: Murphy: 5 Cleaned out by Kilkenny, who played way more advanced then he has all year. This kept Murphy back like a corner back and he really struggled to get into the game. Missed him out the field around the breaks. Perhaps moving him back the the half forward line might be the answer.

6. Crowley: 6 Some highlight big hits, including one on Fenton as Fenton tried to clean him out in a third man tackle. He won't be trying that again in a hurry. Pace a massive worry especially through the middle.

7. Brian O'Beaglaoich 7 Charged forward well but couldn't buy a break especially in the second half. Scully didn't cause much damage.

8. Jack Barry 7 Like most KErry players mixed the good with the anonymous. Spent periods of the game chasing shadows back thruogh the middle. A few good attacking bursts were halted by the crippling lack of support.

9 . Barry O'Sullivan: 6 I haven't seen the replay of the black card but at the game (from the far side) it seemed like a pretty awful call. Two lads competing for the ball. Fenton won the mark and BO'S was adjudged to have pulled him down. Little impact on the game apart from that. McAuley caused him a bit of trouble, but caused substitute Eanna O'Connor a lot more.

10. Micheal Burns: 6 Little flashes early on, but has that irritating tendency to kick unnecessarily with the outside of his boot, leading to several stupid turnovers today.

11. Seán O'Shea : 5 Welcome to the bigtime. Seanie went off injured (unsurprising given the hiding he was getting from John Small for 35 mins). The open goal missed was a huge moment in the match. He'll have better days in Croker.

12. Adrian Spillane: 5 Looked like he was lacking match fitness. Struggled with the pace of the game. Ran himself into the ground, but was no attacking threat.

13. David Clifford: 8 Tore into Dublin early and was all over Cian O'Sullivan. Johnny Cooper gave him a tougher time of it. Struggled to score in the second half with no support runners to help him. Our only forward threat.

14. Paul Geaney: 5 Missed a hatful of chances before going off injured. Great chance for goal, foiled by the butt of the post.

15. Kevin McCarthy: 5 Like Spillane, looks well off match fitness. Ran a fair bit, but with 20 minutes gone he looked wrecked and didn't seem to ever get his second wind. Tipped over a point after Geaney's missed goal chance.

Sideline: -4 (Yes minus four) Mikey Geaney on at half time to rescue the game. Enough said. It took him just 2 minutes to make his impact marking absolutely nobody while Dublin tapped over their first point of the second half. Looked left and right for his man who was gone in behind him. BJK chased and worked back a bit but i'm not sure he actually touched the ball at all. Eanna O'Connor charged forward a bit but left McAuley run riot.

Dublin were awesome. Fitter, faster, tougher, better football. Great movement. Great awareness and understanding. A proper team.

Less said about the referee the better.

(Note these ratings may be revised after watching the match back)

acequion

Powerhouse wrote: »

To be fair to the manager Kerry have one League and one AI in EIGHT years. These issues did not necessarily begin on his watch.

It might also be argued that Kerry have actually been very good for most of Fitzmaurice's reign but ran into an exceptional Dublin team a lot of the time.

I'm not usually so harsh and up to this year I had a season ticket renewed each year from 2010,so I was at every match. I,too wanted to believe in Fitzmaurice and give him every chance.

But the time for excuses is over and with respect,your comments above come across as mere excuses.

In a county with 37 AIs,one AI and one league in eight years is a dismal return. We really need to stop this lowering of our formerly very high standards.

And I cannot agree that Kerry have been mostly good under Fitzmaurice. Look at all the implosions, all the let downs on big days, all the wrong decisions on the sideline, all the years when we had to fight relegation in the League. I've lost count of all the long journeys home from matches with my heart in my boots. Apart from Dublin,Mayo has been the only other county vying for the honours at the business end. So it's not like we've had to beat loads of great teams.

Yes Dublin are exceptional,fair play to them. But that's no excuse either. Or as I asked earlier, are we resigned to playing second,or even third, fourth,fifth fiddle from here on in?? We, the original aristocrats with all our titles.

The time for excuses really is over!

wazzer1

mickeyk wrote: »

No chance. Fitzmaurice is there until the end of the year at least. It’s March and we are missing experienced first team men like Morley and Moran who would have made a big difference today. Half the team are in their debut season. We are also clearly weeks behind Dublin in terms of preparation and fitness.

The result is really not all that surprising given the above. We have huge room for improvement and there is great potential in this team. I have reservations myself, but people need to lay off the management and get behind the team. I dread to think what Terrace talk will be like tomorrow evening!!

How are they weeks behind in fitness? Dublin should be weeks behind after their team holiday. Sorry lad but the excuses are wearing thin

keane2097

It's more a case of years behind than weeks behind.

The_Honeybadger

wazzer1 wrote: »

How are they weeks behind in fitness? Dublin should be weeks behind after their team holiday. Sorry lad but the excuses are wearing thin

What excuses? Dublin are miles ahead of Kerry in terms of fitness and general conditioning. Are you seriously trying to tell me you couldn’t see that today in the second half?

The_Honeybadger

keane2097 wrote: »

It's more a case of years behind than weeks behind.

Yes, probably true. Most of the Dublin squad have incredible levels of fitness and conditioning acquired over many years and it is going to take time to get youngsters to that level.

mystic86

mickeyk wrote: »

Yes, probably true. Most of the Dublin squad have incredible levels of fitness and conditioning acquired over many years and it is going to take time to get youngsters to that level.

Agree, but I think EF is not the man to do it. A freshness in approach is needed, along with some clarity of thought.

Amprodude

Kerry are light years behind Dublin since 2011. Not going to change anytime soon.

The_Honeybadger

mystic86 wrote: »

Agree, but I think EF is not the man to do it. A freshness in approach is needed, along with some clarity of thought.

Oh I agree, I thought he should have walked away last year after the Mayo replay. It was obvious the team needed major surgery and would not be competing for Sam this year. A lot of the fans have turned on him and he is doing his legacy further damage by staying on. It would have been an ideal time to change manager and sell it as a 2-3 year project of building a new team. That is the reality of what we are facing in to and I don’t think Eamon will get that time.

That said, while he is there I will support the team and hope that he succeeds.

Bass Reeves

I think the problem with changing manager is that Jack O'Connor is the only other choice and that he is not flavour of the month with the county board. Cian O'Neill and EF were a good combination but apart they do not seem to be as good.