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Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

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    #3872
    Kevhog1988
    Registered Users Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    The identity of the guy who started the whole thing would raise a few eyebrows

    Heard a name today from a fella who would know and its surprising his name hasnt been mentioned so far.


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    #3873
    mystic86
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    Can ye tell us the name? Or is that breaking some rule?


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    #3874
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    mystic86 wrote: »
    Can ye tell us the name? Or is that breaking some rule?

    it wont be said on here who the guy is.. it is well known in Kerry who is being referred to... so if you have any friends or associates from Kerry who are into football.. they'll tell u


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    #3875
    Gael85
    Registered Users Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭Gael85


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    it wont be said on here who the guy is.. it is well known in Kerry who is being referred to... so if you have any friends or associates from Kerry who are into football.. they'll tell u

    A current or former player?


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    #3876
    Kevhog1988
    Registered Users Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Gael85 wrote: »
    A current or former player?

    Current.


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    #3877
    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Their appealing their conviction. Their solicitor is also representing the Healy Raes in their appeal so maybe he'll try and get both cases heard on the 1 day.

    The 3rd footballer who initiated events leading to the assault is a coward in my opinion. He knocked the injured parties food on the ground. Some role model. Should be kicked off the Kerry panel


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    #3878
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Their appealing their conviction. Their solicitor is also representing the Healy Raes in their appeal so maybe he'll try and get both cases heard on the 1 day.

    The 3rd footballer who initiated events leading to the assault is a coward in my opinion. He knocked the injured parties food on the ground. Some role model. Should be kicked off the Kerry panel

    that wont happen... personally i think the 3 lads involved should be tied up get a good hiding. maybe spend a few days in hospital recovering and then can we all move on....

    has anyone seen the cctv footage of the incident...??

    what goes around comes around... a former kerry footballer savagely assaulted a pensioner in killarney a good few years back.. it didnt bring him any luck


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    #3879
    mystic86
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    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Their appealing their conviction. Their solicitor is also representing the Healy Raes in their appeal so maybe he'll try and get both cases heard on the 1 day.

    The 3rd footballer who initiated events leading to the assault is a coward in my opinion. He knocked the injured parties food on the ground. Some role model. Should be kicked off the Kerry panel

    A bit of perspective, knocking someone's food out of their hands when you're drunk is a scumbag move, but it's not even in the same hemisphere as what the others did. Still fairly pathetic. But if you do that and the person who bought that food reacts and verbally retorts, you don't pummel him, that's where the line is. And the ones convicted are the ones who crossed that line.


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    #3880
    Forge83
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    Anyway, What team do we all hope will start against Clare?

    For me it’s as follows even including some players I have slated in the past.
    Most likely Murphy will start ahead of Breen, Geaney in the forwards and Moran in midfield but I am hoping not.

    1. K Fitzgibbon
    2. B O Beaglaoich
    3. J Foley
    4. T O Sullivan
    5. M. Breen
    6. G Crowley
    7. G White
    8. A Spillane
    9. D O Connor
    10. S O Brien
    11. S O Shea
    12. P Murphy
    13.P Clifford
    14. D Moynihan
    15. D Clifford

    Subs-
    16. S Ryan
    17. D Moran
    18. P Geaney
    19. K Spillane
    20. J Barry
    21. T Walsh
    22. T Morley
    23. R Buckley
    24. J Sherwood
    25. Micheal Burns


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    #3881
    beakerjoe
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    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I read that. What do you do with people like this? They are obviously scumbags but should a conviction mean that they cannot represent the county..

    Yes. GAA should have no room for thugs.


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    #3882
    beakerjoe
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    Marty1983 wrote: »
    No point us being judge and jury here folks, this was nearly 3 years ago and has been hanging over them sense.

    Mindless stuff but they have no been before the courts so let them put it behind themselves. Harsh lesson to learn at a young age.

    Harsh?

    Are you for real? The assaulted someone unprovoked.

    They should be locked up. These thugs dont deserve to pull on a Kerry shirt again.


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    #3883
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users Posts: 4,518 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Harsh?

    Are you for real? The assaulted someone unprovoked.

    They should be locked up. These thugs dont deserve to pull on a Kerry shirt again.

    The mans face just got in the way of their fist.


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    #3884
    beakerjoe
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    Kerry_2008 wrote: »
    If we both heard the same person it would in fairness. Don't understand how he was kept out of it.

    I am unsure whether these lads should be banned from playing from Kerry or not. We have the case of another lad being let go from the panel for similar repeat offences.

    Then there is the well cited case of Connolly in dubln. I would be in favour of keeping him on the panel unless something like this occurs again

    Connolly shouldnt have been allowed back. These lads should be no where near GAA after this incident. No room in GAA for thugs. An example should be made.


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    #3885
    Bass Reeves
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    Forge83 wrote: »
    Anyway, What team do we all hope will start against Clare?


    1. K Fitzgibbon
    2. J Foley
    3. T Morley
    4. T O Sullivan
    5. P. Murphy
    6. G Crowley
    7. G White
    8. D Moran
    9. D O Connor
    10. Jack Barry
    11. S O Shea
    12. S O' Brien
    13.P Clifford
    14. D Clifford
    15. D Moyihan/P Geany

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #3886
    dobman88
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    Forge83 wrote: »
    Anyway, What team do we all hope will start against Clare?

    For me it’s as follows even including some players I have slated in the past.
    Most likely Murphy will start ahead of Breen, Geaney in the forwards and Moran in midfield but I am hoping not.

    1. K Fitzgibbon
    2. B O Beaglaoich
    3. J Foley
    4. T O Sullivan
    5. M. Breen
    6. G Crowley
    7. G White
    8. A Spillane
    9. D O Connor
    10. S O Brien
    11. S O Shea
    12. P Murphy
    13.P Clifford
    14. D Moynihan
    15. D Clifford

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    16. S Ryan
    17. D Moran
    18. P Geaney
    19. K Spillane
    20. J Barry
    21. T Walsh
    22. T Morley
    23. R Buckley
    24. J Sherwood
    25. Micheal Burns

    Think you're close enough but could see Murphy at 5, Geaney at 12 and Breen back on the bench.

    I'm happy with any team that keeps the pace in it. I think Moran will start but unfortunately he holds the team back now. A midfield with any combination of O Connor, Spillane and Barry would be good. Quick, agile footballers capable of getting around the pitch and delivering quality ball when needed.

    Moran still needed to come on late and settle things down to see out a result but I think his starting days are numbered.


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    #3887
    Forge83
    Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Forge83


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    1. K Fitzgibbon
    2. J Foley
    3. T Morley
    4. T O Sullivan
    5. P. Murphy
    6. G Crowley
    7. G White
    8. D Moran
    9. D O Connor
    10. Jack Barry
    11. S O Shea
    12. S O' Brien
    13.P Clifford
    14. D Clifford
    15. D Moyihan/P Geany

    Is this the team you hope will start or the team you think will start?


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    #3888
    Arealred
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Arealred


    Most of us Kerry fans are critical of certain northern teams and their behaviour on and off the field. There has been numerous high profile incidents over the years. We are no better if we allow these thugs near a Kerry panel what they did was unforgivable. Glad the judge called it out for what it is.


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    #3889
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Forge83 wrote: »
    Anyway, What team do we all hope will start against Clare?

    For me it’s as follows even including some players I have slated in the past.
    Most likely Murphy will start ahead of Breen, Geaney in the forwards and Moran in midfield but I am hoping not.

    1. K Fitzgibbon
    2. B O Beaglaoich
    3. J Foley
    4. T O Sullivan
    5. M. Breen
    6. G Crowley
    7. G White
    8. A Spillane
    9. D O Connor
    10. S O Brien
    11. S O Shea
    12. P Murphy
    13.P Clifford
    14. D Moynihan
    15. D Clifford

    Subs-
    16. S Ryan
    17. D Moran
    18. P Geaney
    19. K Spillane
    20. J Barry
    21. T Walsh
    22. T Morley
    23. R Buckley
    24. J Sherwood
    25. Micheal Burns



    id say your on the money there chap.... as u said i think Murphy will be at 5. Moran at 8 and Geaney at 12.. this management have no time for the Spillanes so i dont expect any of them to start..


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    #3890
    jimmytwotimes 2013
    Registered Users Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Arealred wrote: »
    Most of us Kerry fans are critical of certain northern teams and their behaviour on and off the field. There has been numerous high profile incidents over the years. We are no better if we allow these thugs near a Kerry panel what they did was unforgivable. Glad the judge called it out for what it is.

    "We" have no control over them losing their place on the panel.

    Haven't heard anyone defending them round here anyway and anyone I've spoken to expects they'll lose right to place on county panel as a result of assault.


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    #3891
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,196 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Forge83 wrote: »
    Is this the team you hope will start or the team you think will start?

    Well the question was what team we liked to start.

    The team that will start I think will be much the same with Geany in for the third midfielder. I expect Moran to start or if not Jack Barry with O'Connor. My big fear is we have too many light players that will be.opwrating between the two forties. While Murphy, Crowley, White, Paudie Clifford, Moyihan and Geany are all decent footballers they lack physical presence. Against most teams we will manage but against Dublin we must extract a price for whatever way they try to manage Clifford

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #3892
    brocbrocach
    Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭brocbrocach


    Is Paudie Clifford really that good that he's our championship starter now instead of Geaney, Tommy, Burns, Brosnan, Spillane? He's been grand in the league and obviously for EK but it's been a long time since a fella came from the fringes at his age. Galvin maybe the last who really kicked on after being overlooked early.


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    #3893
    mystic86
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    brocbrocach wrote: »
    Is Paudie Clifford really that good that he's our championship starter now instead of Geaney, Tommy, Burns, Brosnan, Spillane? He's been grand in the league and obviously for EK but it's been a long time since a fella came from the fringes at his age. Galvin maybe the last who really kicked on after being overlooked early.

    Yes he is. He was MOTM in one of those games you said he was grand in, and he was up there in the others.


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    #3894
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    mystic86 wrote: »
    Yes he is. He was MOTM in one of those games you said he was grand in, and he was up there in the others.

    I agree, it might mean allot to a fella that comes along abit later aswell. He's been one of our top performers in fairness and great at linking play. Gets through a fair amount of work aswell.we needed a player like him .


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    #3895
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,196 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    brocbrocach wrote: »
    Is Paudie Clifford really that good that he's our championship starter now instead of Geaney, Tommy, Burns, Brosnan, Spillane? He's been grand in the league and obviously for EK but it's been a long time since a fella came from the fringes at his age. Galvin maybe the last who really kicked on after being overlooked early.

    He is quite good, he has a fast turn of pace and is gets into good positions. He seems to have sixth sense about his positioning with his brother. I rate him above Moyihan and Geany. He is well ahead of Burns. I think Brosnan is a tidy player but I have not really seen him perform on the heat of championship. The only think stopping Killian Spillane starting is he is too good coming on. With the need to bring on 5-6 substitute's to finish games it's important to have scoring potential coming on remember McMenanin.

    If I have any criticism it's his shot selection. There was 1-2 instances in the first game's against Galway and Dublin and again the last day against Tyrone when he over played the ball looking to try to score a goal when he should have taken a point. If we reach an All Ireland Final against Dublin an instance like that could win or lose the match.

    Last player that came late into the system was Paul Murphy in 2014 I think he was 22 when he got his chance.

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #3896
    cms88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭cms88


    brocbrocach wrote: »
    Is Paudie Clifford really that good that he's our championship starter now instead of Geaney, Tommy, Burns, Brosnan, Spillane? He's been grand in the league and obviously for EK but it's been a long time since a fella came from the fringes at his age. Galvin maybe the last who really kicked on after being overlooked early.

    He's ahead of Geaney as a half forward anyway. Tommy Walsh days as a stater are over and he's impact is better coming on. Spillane is the same seems to be much bettter coming on in a game. Burns imo has been given more than enough chances at this stage and just hav.t done it. Clifford is a very different sort of player to Tony Brosnan a well.


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    #3897
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Not a good look for these lads

    https://twitter.com/Aidanthehack/status/1407968649269350402?s=19


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    #3898
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    dobman88 wrote: »
    Not a good look for these lads

    https://twitter.com/Aidanthehack/status/1407968649269350402?s=19

    Not a good look for Kerry GAA if true.


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    #3899
    mystic86
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Not a good look for Kerry GAA if true.

    How can 'kerry gaa' have anything to do with the actions of two individuals in their own time..?


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    #3900
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    mystic86 wrote: »
    How can 'kerry gaa' have anything to do with the actions of two individuals in their own time..?

    Easy.

    Its says two prominent GAA figures. Its not saying the accused did it.

    Kerry GAA or the clubs in which the accused play have a lot to gain from this complaint going away, so its reasonable to assume that the "2 prominent" may have had a connection to either a GAA club in Kerry or Kerry GAA themselves.

    The 2"individuals in their own time" were GAA Figures according to the article, so hardly 2 private individuals.


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    #3901
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭dobman88


    mystic86 wrote: »
    How can 'kerry gaa' have anything to do with the actions of two individuals in their own time..?

    In fairness, the way the article is written it sounds like someone from Kerry GAA made contact with Dan to offer the bribe, citing the potential the footballers had as excuse. It doesnt read like they contacted him themselves and offered to pay him off.


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