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Fine Geals 10 year plan includes talk of infrastrucure

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    #92
    Chivito550
    Registered Users Posts: 7,694 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    bk wrote: »
    Yes, I agree completely, it will make the tunnel much easier to swallow.

    If you think about it, it is a bit like how they built the intercity motorway network. Had anyone said up front that it would all cost 8 billion, it would never have gotten off the ground. But instead they broke it down into lots of smaller projects and phases that were easier to sneak under the radar.

    Also by then Dublin Metro should be built and I expect a big success, which should also make the idea of another tunnel much easier. Just like Luas Cross City was accepted once the two original Luas lines proved themselves.

    It's a poor reflection on us as people if this is how important infrastructure needs to be sold to us.


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    #93
    ClovenHoof
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    Muahahaha wrote: »
    It'll be a long time before the Metro gets to Sandyford.

    Dart Underground is the real game changer though, more so than the Metro to the airport imo.

    The metro does not only go to the airport. The green line is already metro ready.

    No way will CIE provide a decent sevice on DART Underground. Where are the ten min darts now ffs...


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    Zebra3
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    http://m.independent.ie/business/budget/tax-cuts-are-number-one-priority-in-budget-say-fg-branches-36183314.html

    Small bit towards the end there of FG members wanting MN, and a couple of other projects.


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    #95
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    LXFlyer wrote: »
    That's far from the main reason on a suburban railway.

    The main reason is the more trains you add to a schedule, the longer the gates will be closed to traffic - there is a limit to how long they can be shut.

    Where the gates are at a station they have to close when the train is approaching the station and is at the platform lest the train overshoots - that adds extra time.

    Just wondering is there a standard time that the gates need to be closed at level crossings? Recently I went over the Coolmine one and was waiting eight minutes in total for one train. It is an automated crossing so it seemed ridiculous for the gates being closed that long, I would have thought 2-3 minutes max. Any ideas what kind of technology is used, is it a case that the train triggers the gates when it is 1km away or does it need human oversight?


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    #96
    LXFlyer
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    If it was an outbound train, the gates have to close well before the train arrives in the station, in case the train overshoots the platform. They need to be closed before the train enters the signalling section immediately before the level crossing - the Maynooth line hasn't been resignalled and the sections may be longer than elsewhere - hence the long wait.

    The crossings are controlled by a signaller using CCTV.


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    Muahahaha
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    Thats interesting. What can make a train overshoot a platform, is it driver error or can the wheels slip on wet days? Is it less likely to happen on trains that are electrified or is the risk the same? Either way it certainly makes a good case for level crossings to be grade separated where possible.


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    #98
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,542 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Thats interesting. What can make a train overshoot a platform, is it driver error or can the wheels slip on wet days? Is it less likely to happen on trains that are electrified or is the risk the same? Either way it certainly makes a good case for level crossings to be grade separated where possible.
    Either of the above reasons would apply.


    The railway works on the basis of safety first - hence you take protective action.


    No difference between degree of risk between diesel and electric trains.


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    Middle Man
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    FG Plan - there's a missing element that is essential:

    Combating NIMBYism!

    Today, Dublin's North Runway is being challenged in the High Court over the extended planning permission granted by Fingal Co. Co.

    The Field II
    Coming to an airport near you!


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    patrickbrophy18
    Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭patrickbrophy18


    Middle Man wrote: »
    FG Plan - there's a missing element that is essential:

    Combating NIMBYism!

    Today, Dublin's North Runway is being challenged in the High Court over the extended planning permission granted by Fingal Co. Co.

    The Field II
    Coming to an airport near you!

    This is really typical in this country. It's an international airport with one of the busiest routes in Europe, Dublin to London. While poor waste management is unacceptable, it shouldn't be used as a basis for stalling what I would consider an infrastructure improvement with national importance. Don't get me wrong. The developers should make good of their waste management misgivings. However, it shouldn't cost Ireland's main Airport an extra runway given how busy it already is.


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