RTE slams "secret" producer for telling the truth?

VinLieger

super_furry wrote: »

Yeah but there's nothing there that wasn't already in the public realm or could be easily assumed. Things like producers being cornered in toilets and what not have already been out there - Graham Linehan told that story. Same with the taxis, long coffee breaks and your man Craig Doyle.

I still don't see any 'smoking gun' to say it's genuine.

This Times article summed things up for me https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/why-we-should-be-wary-of-the-secret-rt%C3%A9-producer-1.3226782

I agree with the article being anonymous makes it impossible to verify and trust by itself, however its RTEs reaction to it by attacking the person and not the claims that gives it credence

Seth Brundle

osarusan wrote: »

If RTE started disputing/refuting certain claims, they'd start a precedent of engaging with specific claims and thus put themselves in an awkward position regarding the other claims that were not disputed or refuted.

Of course they could. It's called PR!
By staying silent on the message and only atracking the messenger they are fuelling speculation about them. They could have simply said that it's all untrue but they didn't.
The fact that others like Lenihan have agreed with the message only further strengthen the messages.

Seth Brundle

super_furry wrote: »

Yeah but there's nothing there that wasn't already in the public realm or could be easily assumed. Things like producers being cornered in toilets and what not have already been out there - Graham Linehan told that story. Same with the taxis, long coffee breaks and your man Craig Doyle.

I still don't see any 'smoking gun' to say it's genuine.

This Times article summed things up for me https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/why-we-should-be-wary-of-the-secret-rt%C3%A9-producer-1.3226782

If it's all already out there then why are RTE management getting worked up about it?

osarusan

kbannon wrote: »

They could have simply said that it's all untrue but they didn't.

My point is that just because they are not saying it's all untrue, that doesn't mean we can infer that it's all true.

Seth Brundle

osarusan wrote: »

My point is that just because they are not saying it's all untrue, that doesn't mean we can infer that it's all true.

True but people speculating will usually look at a potentially damaging scenario. They will assume that the allegations are true and RTE just want to stay quiet.
RTE could have said that it was all lies and left it to the messenger to validate their claims. They failed to and we're now here still assuming they're true (or debating it) rather than debating whether the messenger is lying.
Its all aesthetics!

osarusan

kbannon wrote: »

RTE could have said that it was all lies and left it to the messenger to validate their claims.

And then if the messenger can verify even one claim, RTE's statement that it's 'all lies' falls flat.

Huexotzingo

super_furry wrote: »

Yeah but there's nothing there that wasn't already in the public realm or could be easily assumed. Things like producers being cornered in toilets and what not have already been out there - Graham Linehan told that story. Same with the taxis, long coffee breaks and your man Craig Doyle.

I still don't see any 'smoking gun' to say it's genuine.

This Times article summed things up for me

That Irish Times article is just an opinion piece. It's clearly a genuine account or otherwise RTE wouldn't have got so irked about it.

super_furry

kbannon wrote: »

If it's all already out there then why are RTE management getting worked up about it?

Are they though? I mean the person behind the account is making all kinds of wild claims about Private Detectives but RTE seem to have just issued what I would assume is a fairly standard statement.

VinLieger

osarusan wrote: »

And then if the messenger can verify even one claim, RTE's statement that it's 'all lies' falls flat.

Which indicates that at least one thing they say is true and can be proven if RTE arent willing to do that

VinLieger

super_furry wrote: »

Are they though? I mean the person behind the account is making all kinds of wild claims about Private Detectives but RTE seem to have just issued what I would assume is a fairly standard statement.

Im just another anonymous internet person but i do know someone who works there and apparently management lost their heads when this all started. They have deffinitely calmed in the last few days due to im guessing Terry Prone grabbing a firm hold of the reigns and putting her clout to work which is why we are seeing only negative articles in the media

osarusan

VinLieger wrote: »

Which indicates that at least one thing they say is true and can be proven if RTE arent willing to do that

I'm sure RTE know some of it to be true, so why would they react by saying it's all lies - that's just setting themselves up to be proven wrong.

My point has only ever been that we can't infer that it's all true from RTE's lack of response that it's all lies.

super_furry

VinLieger wrote: »

Im just another anonymous internet person but i do know someone who works there and apparently management lost their heads when this all started. They have deffinitely calmed in the last few days due to im guessing Terry Prone grabbing a firm hold of the reigns and putting her clout to work which is why we are seeing only negative articles in the media

I don't doubt that their management freaked out, but I'd bet it being more about what they feared would or could come out if it was a genuine whistle blower.

For me personally, I still don't see any smoking gun, leading me to doubt how genuine the account is. Now that it almost seems to be blowing over, I don't think there will be one.

I might be wrong but I think this will all fade away quietly and we'll all be none the wise.

maudgonner

RTE TV building was evacuated due to a bomb threat this afternoon. Those private detectives are taking scare tactics to a whole new level!

Hotblack Desiato

What RTE should have done:

Studiously ignore the whole thing and instruct all employees to do the same. When pressed by the media, say 'we do not comment on anonymous internet speculation'

What they did do:

Lose their collective shit, allow or instruct their employees to attack this person on twitter, have official spokespersons attack them on the media, issue threats to any other employees tempted to speak out, start a manhunt.

I think RTE's reaction speaks volumes, more than 'rte secret producer' has so far.
Mission accomplished on their part!

Hotblack Desiato

And, RTE, I coulda told you this for waaay less than Terry Prune charges

CollyFlower

Any updates on this?... Has he/she been silenced?

Ardent

Looks like it. Was probably only a matter of time.

Purple Mountain

Storm in a teacup.

senordingdong

Would think there would be a media sensation if this person had been discovered and sacked.

Or at least a copy cat account.

The silence is peculiar.

Purple Mountain

senordingdong wrote: »

Would think there would be a media sensation if this person had been discovered and sacked.

Or at least a copy cat account.

The silence is peculiar.

Thread move to Conspiracy Theories??

senordingdong

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Thread move to Conspiracy Theories??

Or missing persons

Freindly

Hello, Sorry about the sudden absence. With the investigation, the media reaction, and the threats, I got scared. This place is my livelihood. So I stopped. But I shouldn't have. Just the reaction was so much more than I expected. But now I have a pretty new phone. I with good security. But it's work time. I have to go for now. Dms open. It is nice to be tweeting again

https://twitter.com/rtesecretpro

And we are back

liam7831

Freindly wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtesecretpro

And we are back

We have Twitter too

senordingdong

Excelsior!

Purple Mountain

Copycat?

OldMrBrennan83

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