RTE slams "secret" producer for telling the truth?

super_furry

Still not convinced this whole thing isn't a spoof. There's nothing been released so far that you couldn't already infer or that wasn't already in the public realm. There's no way to verify what they're saying at all unless they get in touch with an investigative journalist and really blue the whistle

keith_sixteen

super_furry wrote: »

Still not convinced this whole thing isn't a spoof.

If it's a spoof, why are RTE giving it so much credibility?

AndrewJRenko

Billy86 wrote: »

Pretty much, if NT or the Indo want to fly their cleaning staff in by helicopter on a daily basis that's their own prerogative; it's not like they'd be looking for the taxpayer to foot the bill for their own private taxis.

leggo wrote: »

Newstalk and the Indo are private entities, though, not paid for by tax payers and live and die based on market demands (which are much harsher and typically force companies to be more stringent than the likes of RTE), so we've actually no right to demand this level of accountability from them, whereas we do of RTE.

More stringent? Yeah, sure - remind me what happened when Anglo was ready to go off and die based on market demands? Who was it that got stuck with the bill? And who was it that got massive write-downs on debt when somebody with a close relationship to Newstalk and the Indo was taking them over?

Billy86

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

More stringent? Yeah, sure - remind me what happened when Anglo was ready to go off and die based on market demands? Who was it that got stuck with the bill? And who was it that got massive write-downs on debt when somebody with a close relationship to Newstalk and the Indo was taking them over?

The Indo and Newstalk got write downs on debt? Anglo Irish own these companies? Should be burn the bondholders while we're at it?

seamus

keith_sixteen wrote: »

If it's a spoof, why are RTE giving it so much credibility?

That's pretty much it. Saying nothing or calling the thing out as a hoax would have been a far better choice than promising to "punish" them. Basically they've said that it's not a hoax, and that means there's at least some truth in what the producer is revealing.

Tbh, s/he's not really saying anything we didn't already know. Programming at RTE has been a shambles for 2 decades. They occasionally get lucky with the likes of "Love/Hate", but for the most part they just show the same old nonsense with the Late Late, Winning Streak, Ear to the Ground, etc. The same tired old stuffy presenters, the same safe, parochial content.

There's a reason why all of the best Irish TV talent and comedians go to the UK - because RTE is an old boys' club with no imagination.

Greybottle

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

An interesting alternative perspective - follow the thread;

https://twitter.com/c_macge/status/909484614699319297

The spin doctors are starting to earn their money.

Expect attack after attack on this person, with plenty of 'inside sources' saying that they know the person and it's a disgruntled somebody who was passed over for something or other.

Wagons would normally be circled, but nobody is doing it as they're all out trying to cover their own arses.

leggo

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

More stringent? Yeah, sure - remind me what happened when Anglo was ready to go off and die based on market demands? Who was it that got stuck with the bill? And who was it that got massive write-downs on debt when somebody with a close relationship to Newstalk and the Indo was taking them over?

What are you on about pal?

AndrewJRenko

Billy86 wrote: »

The Indo and Newstalk got write downs on debt?

THis should help cure your confusion.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/04/26/a-e140-million-write-off-from-bank-of-ireland-and-aib/

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/siteserv-acquired-by-denis-o-brien-1.483423

leggo

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

THis should help cure your confusion.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/04/26/a-e140-million-write-off-from-bank-of-ireland-and-aib/

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/siteserv-acquired-by-denis-o-brien-1.483423

What has any of this got to do with RTE?

Sorry mate, but you sound like someone on social media ranting about how nurses don't earn as much as footballers. You're fundamentally missing the point of the entire discussion.

Cienciano

steddyeddy wrote: »

I knew a camera woman who works there who told me that they hire certain cameras and equipment for big events like Eurovision. She said they refuse to buy them in and save money in the long run. Also like a lot of the Irish public service, nepotisim is rife. Whose vagina you came out of supercedes talent.

Ah here, Lottie Ryan is a damn good interviewer.

Billy86

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

THis should help cure your confusion.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/04/26/a-e140-million-write-off-from-bank-of-ireland-and-aib/

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/siteserv-acquired-by-denis-o-brien-1.483423

It has, thanks - they didn't. I can't stand either entity nor The Nameless Man but your posts seem to have a strange agenda to them.

VinLieger

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

THis should help cure your confusion.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/04/26/a-e140-million-write-off-from-bank-of-ireland-and-aib/

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/siteserv-acquired-by-denis-o-brien-1.483423

Has absolutely nothing to do with RTE's mismanagement and the twitter account.

Again i find it ironic when people accuse the twitter account of having an agenda based solely on the fact their own agenda isn't being talked about.

ButtersSuki

Cienciano wrote: »

Ah here, Lottie Ryan is a damn good interviewer.

The "boards.ie Post of the Decade Competition" is now closed as we have a winner.

AndrewJRenko

VinLieger wrote: »

Has absolutely nothing to do with RTE's mismanagement and the twitter account.

Again i find it ironic when people accuse the twitter account of having an agenda based solely on the fact their own agenda isn't being talked about.

Billy86 wrote: »

It has, thanks - they didn't. I can't stand either entity nor The Nameless Man but your posts seem to have a strange agenda to them.

leggo wrote: »

What has any of this got to do with RTE?

Sorry mate, but you sound like someone on social media ranting about how nurses don't earn as much as footballers. You're fundamentally missing the point of the entire discussion.

I didn't bring up the question of Newstalk / INM / Siteserv, others did. I'm simply pointing out that the 'private sector minds its own business' myth is just that.

Billy86

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I didn't bring up the question of Newstalk / INM / Siteserv, others did. I'm simply pointing out that the 'private sector minds its own business' myth is just that.

No, it was you who brought them in post #115. The only mention of either before was a passing comment about George Hook getting bad publicity recently.

AndrewJRenko

Billy86 wrote: »

No, it was you who brought them in post #115. The only mention of either before was a passing comment about George Hook getting bad publicity recently.

Eh no, I didn't. I posted a link to a Twitter thread. The Twitter thread brought them up, and others weighed in on the matter, so I added some facts for context.

loyatemu

keith_sixteen wrote: »

If it's a spoof, why are RTE giving it so much credibility?

it's a long-game publicity campaign for next summer's Late-Late replacement "Saturday Night with the Secret Producer". He'll be presenting with a paper-bag-with-eye-holes on his head and at the end of the series the bag will dramatically be removed to reveal none other than.... Craig Doyle!

VinLieger

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I posted a link to a Twitter thread. The Twitter thread brought them up

LOL, some amazing mental gymnastics in operation here

optogirl

Was following when there were circa 9000 followers - then saw the Journal.ie article with RTE statement and went back - circa 17000 followers...

VinLieger

optogirl wrote: »

Was following when there were circa 9000 followers - then saw the Journal.ie article with RTE statement and went back - circa 17000 followers...

Its 24.4k now

Billy86

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Eh no, I didn't. I posted a link to a Twitter thread. The Twitter thread brought them up, and others weighed in on the matter, so I added some facts for context.

And you brought it from there to here, so yes you did bring it up in this discussion. Because you're posts have a very clear and transparent agenda to shift the conversation, for whatever reason...

AndrewJRenko

VinLieger wrote: »

LOL, some amazing mental gymnastics in operation here

You can LOL all you like, that doesn't change the facts of what happened.

VinLieger

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You can LOL all you like, that doesn't change the facts of what happened.

Yes you brought that topic into the thread, or did the twitter thread link to itself?

AndrewJRenko

I posted a link to the Twitter thread, which raised a number of issues, including a Newstalk perspective. Others commented on the Newstalk angle, and I added some facts for context. Now what's the problem?

Ash.J.Williams

I wish all this effort would go towards ensuring rapists get the sentences they deserve etc...

Ineedaname

Cienciano wrote: »

Ah here, Lottie Ryan is a damn good interviewer.

Billy86

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I posted a link to the Twitter thread, which raised a number of issues, including a Newstalk perspective. Others commented on the Newstalk angle, and I added some facts for context. Now what's the problem?

The problem is you bringing something up in this discussion then turning around and saying you never brought it up. Again, nobody here commented on the Newstalk angle - you brought it up before anyone had mentioned Newstalk or the Indo beyond George Hook getting bad publicity lately. Nobody is saying you can't bring it up, but just be honest about it rather than pretending it was being discussed when a quick search through the posts before your linking to it shows that to be completely false.

AndrewJRenko

Billy86 wrote: »

The problem is you bringing something up in this discussion then turning around and saying you never brought it up. Again, nobody here commented on the Newstalk angle - you brought it up before anyone had mentioned Newstalk or the Indo beyond George Hook getting bad publicity lately. Nobody is saying you can't bring it up, but just be honest about it rather than pretending it was being discussed when a quick search through the posts before your linking to it shows that to be completely false.

If you want to search this thread and see who started talking about Newstalk, you'll see it wasn't me.

http://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?thread=2057787536&sort=oldest&date_to=&date_from=&query=newstalk

I only mentioned Newstalk to deny that I was talking about Newstalk, funnily enough.

I did link to the Twitter thread that does indeed mention Newstalk. For me, the Newstalk angle was probably the least interesting bit of that thread, though maybe that's different for others.

OldMrBrennan83

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AndrewJRenko

Patww79 wrote: »

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I'm glad you asked me that, Miriam.