UFC 215: Johnson vs Borg

Paully D

Date: Saturday 9th September
Times: Fight Pass Prelims (11:30pm, Fight Pass), Prelims (1am, Fight Pass & BT Sport), Main Card (3am, BT Sport)
Venue: Edmonton, Canada
Odds: Johnson (1/9) vs Borg (15/2)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijLchFuux4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2x2H0Om4rA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy8_Uw6Cx6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jER7eQKf0RY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7LC30alRY

Zero-Cool

Borg via Submission

War Borg!!!

Paully D

I cannot understand the hate and disrespect Mighty Mouse gets.

One of the best to ever do it, he has literally cleaned out his division nearly twice over, stylish and classy, and seems like such a decent man outside of the octagon too. So under appreciated, yet you have utter, utter **** like Jon Jones who are idolised.

Super fights would be cool, sure, but if I was him I think I'd focus on racking up a number of title defenses so high that it will likely never be broken in our lifetimes. That to me would mean more for his legacy than perhaps beating say Dillashaw.

Keep doing what he's doing.

mdwexford

I don't care if he gets 50 defenses.

Much more impressive to beat a few high level fighters.

Wrongway1985

Borg via KO/TKO

Admit it lads Borg missing weight again here would be mad entertainment

Fromvert

Fight is off, Borg is sick

fermanagh_man

Can't make this a PPV now surely?

ricero

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Admit it lads Borg missing weight again here would be mad entertainment

You cursed it !

Jds v ngannou cancelled and now the main event off is pure ****tery.

The womens fight is what i want to see but now i have to stay awake a little later.

Did the weight cut cause borg to pull out ? If it is then enough is enough and something needs to be done asap in regards to the rules for cutting weight

smilerf

Borg via Submission

They should bump Cejudo vs Reiss up to the main card. Could be a good scrap

Wrongway1985

Borg via KO/TKO

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Admit it lads Borg missing weight again here would be mad entertainment

Whoopsie, could see it happening said a while back should've taken on TJ for the more attractive fight he never competed at 125 sure but he doesn't have a history of not making weight like Borg. (Remains to be seen if weight is the issue in this instance, fight off regardless)

The next instalment is for TJ to be a champion before DJ gets to defend right??

Zero-Cool

Borg via Submission

Borg has a viral illness, nothing to do with the weight cut as per ufc doctors. Cejudo reiss moved to main card and and Nunes Shevchenko moved to main event. Karma really as Dana said no way will Nunes main event her next fight.

TJ already rubbing it in.

https://twitter.com/TJDillashaw/status/906023143998767104

mdwexford

It's a joke how many fights fall through.


Had no interest in the main event though so couldn't care less.

D.Q

Contender for the worst numbered card ever?

DrPhilG

D.Q wrote: »

Contender for the worst numbered card ever?

UFC 95

Never mind the fact that it was full of future stars and the event itself is still probably top 3 or 4 that I've been to, on paper at the time it was a complete turd.

Wrongway1985

Borg via KO/TKO

Prob not even in the top 5 worst if we delve into it, UFC 177 was pretty bad main event had Dillashaw face off against Soto who was meant to be on the prelims.

Gamebred

Scrap the whole division nobody cares about it literally was not one bit disappointed about the cancellation of this fight a total mismatch in the first place.

Gamebred

Gamebred wrote: »

Scrap the whole division nobody cares about it literally was not one bit disappointed about the cancellation of this fight a total mismatch in the first place.

Yeah I agree, screw this division! This whole thing of 'beating the title defenses record'.... how many grown men can realistically make 125 healthily? DJ had a chance to fight someone with actually talent in TJ and he threw a strop and refused the fight :rolleyes: DJ irriates the feck out of me. I generally am more into divisions 155+ but I do take a keen interest in 145 and 135.

ASOT

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah I agree, screw this division! This whole thing of 'beating the title defenses record'.... how many grown men can realistically make 125 healthily? DJ had a chance to fight someone with actually talent in TJ and he threw a strop and refused the fight :rolleyes: DJ irriates the feck out of me. I generally am more into divisions 155+ but I do take a keen interest in 145 and 135.

Cant really use the TJ thing as a stick to beat DJ with when we could be sitting here moaning about him not making weight which could have been the case, i agree the division is useless though.

ricero

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah I agree, screw this division! This whole thing of 'beating the title defenses record'.... how many grown men can realistically make 125 healthily? DJ had a chance to fight someone with actually talent in TJ and he threw a strop and refused the fight :rolleyes: DJ irriates the feck out of me. I generally am more into divisions 155+ but I do take a keen interest in 145 and 135.

The 135 division has some great fighters in it at the moment. 145 and 155 are my two favorite divisions. So much talent in both.

I agree the 125 division would be no loss if cut

kwestfan08

If they stuck the 125'ers on the main card from time to time instead of burying them on the prelims people might start to care about the division. Otherwise the lads DJ fights are anonymous nobody's to the casual (and even not so casual) fan. It's very hard to care when even the UFC won't get behind them and promote them.

Paully D

Flyweight division is entertaining IMO. Certainly no worse than other divisions for the amount of entertaining fights over the last while.

Pettis, Elliott, Smolka, Moreno, Benavidez, Pantoja for example all been in fun fights recently.

ASOT

ASOT wrote: »

Cant really use the TJ thing as a stick to beat DJ with when we could be sitting here moaning about him not making weight which could have been the case, i agree the division is useless though.

Borg has missed weight a lot so either way he was taking a risk of someone miss weight. Reality of the situation in my opinion was DJ didn't want to risk fighting TJ before he broke the record of most title defenses. He keeps complaining about not getting paid enough, then when he gets the chance for a fight that will earn him a little more he turns it down :mad:

DJ says they dont promote him enough? They built a fecking TUF serious around him, always have him near the top of pound for pound rankings etc. Reason no one cares about DJ is because he is 125 pounds (what % of the male population can realistically make that weight), he is boring as all hell (no personality) and he is so whiny.

kwestfan08

Deleted User wrote: »

Borg has missed weight a lot so either way he was taking a risk of someone miss weight. Reality of the situation in my opinion was DJ didn't want to risk fighting TJ before he broke the record of most title defenses. He keeps complaining about not getting paid enough, then when he gets the chance for a fight that will earn him a little more he turns it down :mad:

DJ says they dont promote him enough? They built a fecking TUF serious around him, always have him near the top of pound for pound rankings etc. Reason no one cares about DJ is because he is 125 pounds (what % of the male population can realistically make that weight), he is boring as all hell (no personality) and he is so whiny.

Say DJ fights TJ and loses. Then what? TJ is going right back to 135 anyway and I don't see him defending the 125 strap so he drops the belt. You've blew up an entire division for what, maybe 25-50k extra PPV's? What's the point. It's not like fans are clamouring for the fight so why make it.

They certainly aren't promoting him correctly. He's got a pretty popular twitch stream. Why not get him on some gaming/nerd culture podcasts. Build him up as the champion of the geeks. Ass kicker but also a gamer too. It's his niche and a handy way to introduce him to an audience who may not have gravitated to the sport yet.

CatFromHue

smilerf wrote: »

They should bump Cejudo vs Reiss up to the main card. Could be a good scrap

Why not chuck the three of them in there at once and see who comes out the winner

In fairness DJ's reasons for not taking the TJ fight were legit too.

kwestfan08

kwestfan08 wrote: »

Say DJ fights TJ and loses. Then what? TJ is going right back to 135 anyway and I don't see him defending the 125 strap so he drops the belt. You've blew up an entire division for what, maybe 25-50k extra PPV's? What's the point. It's not like fans are clamouring for the fight so why make it.

They certainly aren't promoting him correctly. He's got a pretty popular twitch stream. Why not get him on some gaming/nerd culture podcasts. Build him up as the champion of the geeks. Ass kicker but also a gamer too. It's his niche and a handy way to introduce him to an audience who may not have gravitated to the sport yet.

Its not DJs concern what TJ does if he beats him, if TJ can make the weight and UFC want to match them up then DJ should fight him. DJ would get some more support if he beat someone like TJ or Garbrandt.

Gamebred

RDA didnt look great against Saffedine, I can see him starting well and lighting magnys leg on fire but Magny is relentless can take a hell of a beating reckon he can pull out a win due to better cardio.

tinpib

Luis "The Hypetrain Derailer" Henrique to win here, hopefully.

The White Feather

I liked Bhullar there.If he keeps progressing he could do really well

The White Feather

Clarke getting battered in round 2 here against Alex White.

Yes it is stopped as I write!!

tinpib

Tucker was very short fav there, got an awful beating.

The White Feather

Ref shoulda stopped it or else his corner should have stepped in. No need to take that beating

tinpib

30:25, and 30:24. Christ, ironically it would have been less embarrassing for him had it been stopped, as it should have been.

The White Feather

tinpib wrote: »

30:25, and 30:24. Christ, ironically it would have been less embarrassing for him had it been stopped, as it should have been.

One ref had it 29-27. He/she should be fired

The White Feather

This makes me sad and angry at the same time. Awful to see a guy get battered

https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/906683276575698949

Paully D

The good old Edmonton commission. :rolleyes:

The White Feather

Paully D wrote: »

The good old Edmonton commission. :rolleyes:

When you think of Tim Hague it is even worse.Ariel meant Edmonton Commission here

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/906685601688150016

tinpib

The White Feather wrote: »

When you think of Tim Hague it is even worse.Ariel meant Edmonton Commission here

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/906685601688150016

Yep, that Kyle Cardinal fella thought he was in the Thunderdome.

tinpib

Yikes. That looked nasty. She was tapping like crazy there.

The White Feather

That was a lovely sub there

tinpib

Joe: "Looks like you dislocated the arm there"
Sarah: " Ya, I hope so"

:pac::pac:



:eek:

The White Feather

The usual keyboard warriors having a go at Mitch Clarke. Awful to see

https://twitter.com/MitchClarkeMMA/status/906687504316751872

BOHtox

It's actually a decent enough card. It would have been a very good card had the Ngannou fight and DJ fight not fallen through

Paully D

Most underrated thing about PPV's - no need for filler in between fights. It's straight on to the next fight almost immediately.

The breaks to keep to the schedule for FOX and Fight Pass are a killer at this time.

Sooner it hits 3am, the better.

The White Feather

BOHtox wrote: »

It's actually a decent enough card. It would have been a very good card had the Ngannou fight and DJ fight not fallen through

I agree about Ngannou but DJ is no loss. Not really interested in his fights

tinpib

Some arms on Sarah McMann there.

tinpib

Some night for upsets in the betting, I think Alex White was the only fav who has won so far from 6 fights.

edit: Nope, Arjan Bhullar was fav as well.

wonderfullife

tinpib wrote: »

Some night for upsets in the betting, I think Alex White was the only fav who has won so far from 6 fights.

There's some weird pricing from what I can see.

I mean, he may not win but how is Jeremy Stephens v Gilbert Melendez an even money fight? Melendez is going to be massively depleted at 145lbs and is a shot fighter IMO on a streak of losses and inactivity, I could easily see Stephens walking through him. Neil Magny is a ridiculously long price relative to his chances too.

Also, what's up with the Main Event? Did people miss the part where Amanda Nunes obliterated Miesha and Ronda and pretty convincingly beat Valentina the last time? I can see why people are giving Valentina a solid chance (and I want her to win) but it's baffling how Amanda is the underdog.

As I said, it's fighting so anything can happen but if I had any money I'd definitely be putting it on Stephens & Magny to finish their opponents.

Jamiekelly

His leg is completely gone

tinpib

Jeremy needs to just focus on the leg, obvious I know, he badly needs a win.

wonderfullife

Still can't believe Stephens was a slight underdog. Crazy. Was confident he'd destroy him. Melendez really needs to call it a day. 0-4 in his last 4 fights, only one win in 6 UFC fights. He's done.

The White Feather

Yeah I agree, Melendez should retire.

Stephens power is way overrated though. Couldn't get the finish against a one legged man.