General gaming discussion

McFly85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540812#Comment_123540812

South of Midnight did quite well I think considering it’s a AA game. And Fable isn’t even out yet!

I’m still not sure I fully understand your point anyway. Are you saying games are inherently more fun with only impossibly attractive women included or are you trying to say the primary reason games fail is that gamers as a whole are so unbelievably shallow that they won’t buy a game based on the look of a character, even an NPC?

Penn

Many games will base a character model on a real person and then modify it to create their own new character rather than a 1:1 translation. This gives them more ownership over the character moving forward.

Does not mean the character model is ugly/more masculine, and absolutely does not correlate to any of the issues with that game (of which there were many very notable issues).

CatInABox

Man, this conversation was stupid the last time it came up, and yeah, it's still exceptionally stupid.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540857#Comment_123540857

The point is that people who design ugly characters because … character are the type of people who suck the fun out of everything. This is how we end up with these bland safe and unfun games that seems to originate out of a corporate HR meeting. There must be a reason almost all good actors are also at least handsome, way above the general population. People like to look at attractive people, and not always in a sexualized way.

And yes this is a stupid conversation, I will let it go.

Retr0gamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541388#Comment_123541388

How good a character looks is even less important than story and lore to how good a game is. You're just swallowing that gamergate outrage and you don't even realize how dumb it sounds. Wasn't it you that told us assassin's creed would be a flop because of gamergate nonsense?

ancapailldorcha

Looks like Final Fantasy Tactics is coming to PC at long last!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1004640/Final_Fantasy_Tactics__The_Ivalice_Chronicles/

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541557#Comment_123541557

Wasn't it you that told us assassin's creed would be a flop because of gamergate nonsense?

No. We're not a collective. I told you Dragon Age: The Veilguard will flop because of "gamergate nonsense" which turned out to be true. Why? See below.

How good a character looks is even less important

And I'm trying once more: it's not how the character looks by itself being a problem, but when it looks bad, more often than not, indicates that there are much bigger problems.

So, less of this

And more of this

And games will be great again. Yes, I'm repeating gamergate nonsense.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541639#Comment_123541639

"I told you Dragon Age: The Veilguard will flop because of "gamergate nonsense" which turned out to be true."

God... if only there was a well researched article with numerous sources from a highly respected games journalist posted recently which went through the troubled development of the game from start to end and outlined the numerous reasons for the game's failure, none of which centered around "gamergate nonsense".

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541678#Comment_123541678

Well, it was predicted based on "gamergate nonsense" - you know well which part. And it turned out to be true. And the gaming journalists, those highly respected ones, those who back then praised the game and the "return to form" are now investigating its failures and finding the reasons for it. Sorry, I'd rather listen to gamergaters before any of these "highly respected games journalist"

super_furry

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541639#Comment_123541639

Why don't the metallic-skinned horned  half-orc humanoids look like sexy French women?

I bet it's because of WOKE! right?

Cordell

I give up 🙄

Retr0gamer

When the gamergaters talk about the hot girls in Clair Obscura why do they always show the underage 15 year old?

johnny_ultimate

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541713#Comment_123541713

Why are so many of these kind of arguments based on easily demonstrable lies? Here’s Jason Schreier on Dragon Age: The Veilguard at the time of release.

“I must confess: I’ve bounced hard off Dragon Age: The Veilguard. I’ve given it a few chances to grab me, but I find the combat and level design monotonous and the story hasn’t hooked me enough to make me want to keep going.”

So no, this particular highly respected games journalist did not praise the game before investigating its failures. That’s putting aside the fact that Jason had been reporting on the game’s troubled development for a half decade or more across multiple publications.

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-11-01/-dragon-age-the-veilguard-faced-turbulent-development-high-stakes-at-bioware

Cordell

Yes I even linked here his investigation which turns out to be a just shill for the studio, repeating the CEO's blaming the market and not the game. Highly respectable my arse.

Also this piece of highly respectable carry on:

Retr0gamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542212#Comment_123542212

He's right though. They are chuds.

OptimusTractor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538825#Comment_123538825

The buggy, decal included, he drives at the beginning is a straight rip from CoD.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542497#Comment_123542497

GAMERGATE DONE IT!!!

Sorry thats how the threads been 😅

Seen side by sides with GTA 4 and it's not even close 😐

Potential-Monke

I just looked up gooner just to be sure what it was, and i was kinda right. But I've a question; is it any game with sexualised characters, or just specific ones? Like, yes, SB is considered it, but is it only a recent thing? Was Tomb Raider not a gooner game back in the day (if the graphics weren't enough, the advertising definitely was, I remember the magazine covers!)? Or is it only game that allow changing of clothes to... more revealing outfits? In which case, Bayonetta? Overwatch? Nearly every fighting game ever?

And also not to be mixed with gooner drinkers, who drink boxed wine...

Higgo84

I hate how people sexualise game character's like Mario and others. The amount of people jacking it off to Mario is crazy. What they should have done is made him a short fat plumber.

johnny_ultimate

what

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123543201#Comment_123543201

.…

J Mysterio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540767#Comment_123540767

Are you mental

Azza

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542743#Comment_123542743

Yeah what is it with Arsenal fans and Stellar Blade!

Retr0gamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123543201#Comment_123543201

You joke but whatever you do don't look up what the sonic fandom is up to.

Exclamation Marc

Me not having been on this thread for a few days

Jordan 199

I am having another play through of L.A. Noire. A great game. Phelps 1247.

MikeRyan87

Beat Clair Obscuir E33 yesterday. Thought it was great but was definitely ready for it to be over near the end. Seemed to go on and on. Didn't bother with any of the side stuff after(might go back if there's DLC eventually).

Think some of the praise is a bit over hyped but in fairness the game kinda came out of nowhere and way made by 50 or less people.

Had the same problem with Doom The Dark Ages. Games seem to outstay their welcome more and more and I just decide to blast through it and finish it by two thirds of the way through.

Happened with FF7 Rebirth, Split Fiction, Indiana Jones as well recently.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123547043#Comment_123547043

There were definitely some areas that I felt went on too long, especially since you end up having multiple fights against the same few enemy types but just in different configurations. That can start to feel repetitive, but is also more tied in to the final story missions/areas. When you have the freedom and are capable enough to do more of the endgame stuff, you have a lot more freedom to jump between different areas and keep it fresh with different enemies.

I think it all mostly ends up being about how much you enjoy the combat. Some of the side stuff like high-level Chromatic bosses, unique boss fights and even the Endless Tower can provide a great challenge and you really have to be on top of your game to complete.

johnny_ultimate

Not surprised to see the scathing reviews of MindsEye filtering through, but really interested in the inevitable exposè on how the heck IO Interactive ended up publishing it. Disastrous launch of their publishing wing - couldn’t have picked a worse game to get into that business with.

Retr0gamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123550397#Comment_123550397

I'd say they took a gamble on the ex GTA producer. Every ex GTA producer game seems to have been a massive overly ambitious flop. All Points Bulletin anyone?