Contactless Payments at Mass

myshirt

Can't find anything online, but apparently the Catholic Church will now be accepting contactless payment at mass on Sunday.

Goodbye to those days of tapping the pockets saying you have no change.

Barry Badrinath

The can get f.ucked

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Yeah, dream on.

snowflaker

Sure tap your club card off it!

LirW

Goodbye to those days of tapping the pockets saying you have no change.

"ahhh forgot me card mate"

ravima

There is no 'payment' for either attending or requesting a Mass.

If you are in congregation, there is a collection usually for the running costs of the parish. Believe it or not, but is costs money to provide heat, light, insurance, cleaning, priests living expenses and the other expenses such as candles, altar wine, communion hosts etc. Oft times there might be a second collection for renovation/maintenance of the church as well. All the collections are voluntary.

RayM

ravima wrote: »

Oft times there might be a second collection for renovation/maintenance of the church as well.

Usually a new church roof. What do they make those things out of? Plasticine?

nkav86

Senor Fancy Pants wrote:

The can get f.ucked

Don't tempt them with that again!

nkav86

ravima wrote:

Believe it or not, but is costs money to provide heat, light, insurance, cleaning, priests living expenses and the other expenses such as candles, altar wine, communion hosts etc. Oft times there might be a second collection for renovation/maintenance of the church as well. All the collections are voluntary.

Believe it or not but the guys in the Vatican are sh1ting money, can they not have a whip around

myshirt

ravima wrote: »

There is no 'payment' for either attending or requesting a Mass.

If you are in congregation, there is a collection usually for the running costs of the parish. Believe it or not, but is costs money to provide heat, light, insurance, cleaning, priests living expenses and the other expenses such as candles, altar wine, communion hosts etc. Oft times there might be a second collection for renovation/maintenance of the church as well. All the collections are voluntary.

I am not buying it sir.

Anecdotal evidence, yes, but we have a young lad in the office, he is not on much and all he can afford to give the church is 300 quid for the wedding and they complained.

You often get asked for 150 for a funeral or anniversary mass.

Our church back home published a list of houses that had not returned their offerings as a reminder, but really a roundabout way of creating a bold boys list and peer pressure.

Are Am Eye

So long as they still accept I.O.U.s in the basket.

vicwatson

They can swipe the cards between the cheeks of ones arsehole

lifeandtimes

ravima wrote: »

There is no 'payment' for either attending or requesting a Mass.

If you are in congregation, there is a collection usually for the running costs of the parish. Believe it or not, but is costs money to provide heat, light, insurance, cleaning, priests living expenses and the other expenses such as candles, altar wine, communion hosts etc. Oft times there might be a second collection for renovation/maintenance of the church as well. All the collections are voluntary.

The amount of property the church have they could sell 30% of it and set them up for at least 50 years easily

Arghus

There finally putting some of that Holy Ghost tech to use.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

lifeandtimes wrote: »

The amount of property the church have they could sell 30% of it and set them up for at least 50 years easily

That doesn't negate the fact that the collection at mass is purely voluntary.

myshirt

myshirt wrote: »

but apparently the Catholic Church will now be accepting contactless payment at mass on Sunday.

Well, I suppose it must be a blessing in disguise that it's 'contactless' - if only they had thought of such things in industrial schools in the 1950s.

To put it ever so mildly, I can think of more worthy causes...

Ageing orders have land and property worth billions of euro

Church’s asset portfolio included 10,700 properties

etc etc etc

retalivity

tap, tap, DOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!

byhookorbycrook

myshirt wrote: »

I am not buying it sir.

Anecdotal evidence, yes, but we have a young lad in the office, he is not on much and all he can afford to give the church is 300 quid for the wedding and they complained.....

You often get asked for 150 for a funeral or anniversary mass.

Is he a parishioner? If he were to hire somewhere of similar size, I doubt he'd get it any cheaper- and no-one is forcing him to use that church in any case.

As to €150 for either anniversary mass or funeral, not true either. I have recent experience of both in a few different parishes. There is no charge for either. but people often give an offering.

myshirt

Kolten Tiny Veterinarian wrote: »

That doesn't negate the fact that the collection at mass is purely voluntary.

As Lionel Hutz would say, there is voluntary and 'voluntary'.

Can be a big peer pressure element to it when the basket goes around, especially when it goes around twice.

Presumably when they go contactless the minimum donation will be a tenner, which I am ok with as I have a family there, but perhaps others may not be and that's the point.

Nervous Wreck

ravima wrote: »

There is no 'payment' for either attending or requesting a Mass.

If you are in congregation, there is a collection usually for the running costs of the parish. Believe it or not, but is costs money to provide heat, light, insurance, cleaning, priests living expenses and the other expenses such as candles, altar wine, communion hosts etc. Oft times there might be a second collection for renovation/maintenance of the church as well. All the collections are voluntary.

Which collection tray is for the rape cases down the years?

myshirt

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Is he a parishioner? If he were to hire somewhere of similar size, I doubt he'd get it any cheaper- and no-one is forcing him to use that church in any case.

As to €150 for either anniversary mass or funeral, not true either. I have recent experience of both in a few different parishes. There is no charge for either. but people often give an offering.

Well maybe they just think I have money. Now look, I have never been strong-armed into paying or anything, but I have been asked and seen it being asked often. This is Limerick.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

myshirt wrote: »

As Lionel Hutz would say, there is voluntary and 'voluntary'.

Can be a big peer pressure element to it when the basket goes around, especially when it goes around twice.

Presumably when they go contactless the minimum donation will be a tenner, which I am ok with as I have a family there, but perhaps others may not be and that's the point.

That's pure BS. I'm a collector and there is definitely no peer pressure. Many people don't put anything in the basket, no problem, no hassle, no big deal. As for a second collection, we'd have perhaps only 3 a year.

GarIT

I still can't comprehend why the world's richest organisation begs for change from vulnerable people it claims it is there to help

donegaLroad

did you hear the one about the Cavan man who was watching mass on RTE one Sunday morning?

When the collection came round he changed the channel



*I know that joke is as old as tea*

Ken.

I've looked on line and all I can find is that the Church of England are introducing it.

https://www.ft.com/content/2e803942-5817-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f

lazybones32

Makey-uppy thread...

Tuesday night boredom, OP?

GarIT

Kolten Tiny Veterinarian wrote: »

That's pure BS. I'm a collector and there is definitely no peer pressure. Many people don't put anything in the basket, no problem, no hassle, no big deal. As for a second collection, we'd have perhaps only 3 a year.

Of course there is peer pressure. Everyone worries about looking bad by not putting anything in. And if you don't put money in the plate there will be the oul wans who tell the whole parish about how tight you are.

Liam McPoyle

myshirt wrote: »

Can't find anything online, but apparently the Catholic Church will now be accepting contactless payment at mass on Sunday.

Goodbye to those days of tapping the pockets saying you have no change.

I was in NY last December and as part of the trip we went on a Harlem Gospel Tour (as an aside I cannot recommend this highly enough, if I ever go back I will do it again, it was amazing) and part of the tour involves sitting in on a religious ceremony.

It was all singing, all dancing, pure, unadulterated joy and happiness from the get go, exactly like I'd seem in the movies, then came the collection time.

Basically a row of tables were set up at the very front of the church with baskets and the parishioners went up rank and file to make their contributions.

Before this kicked off the pastor announced that that of folk didn't have cash on them they were happy to accept all major credit cards and that they had the little CC machines for people to use.

We couldn't believe what we were seeing.

Permabear

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4068ac1elhodqr

Revelation 13:

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Welcome to RFID 'Tap n' burn' payment system

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

GarIT wrote: »

Of course there is peer pressure. Everyone worries about looking bad by not putting anything in. And if you don't put money in the plate there will be the oul wans who tell the whole parish about how tight you are.

Not in real life. But, keep the fallacy going.

myshirt

lazybones32 wrote: »

Makey-uppy thread...

Tuesday night boredom, OP?

How is it a makeyuppy thread? I discussed this with a neighbour. Someone on this thread was able to find a story about the Church of England. Cool the heels, I didn't pull this from my arse.

Kolten Tiny Veterinarian

Kolten Tiny Veterinarian wrote: »

Not in real life. But, keep the fallacy going.

in fairness, just because you collect the money, doesn't mean you can speak for people who may feel pressured to pay, and embarrassed if they can't afford it. You dont know how everyone feels, and I can well believe many would be embarrassed to be seen not contributing.

I know this can be an issue in very small congregations. My local CoI church would have no more than 40 people attending on a Sunday, and you'd have to be deliberately staring at the ceiling to avoid seeing what people put in.

It's such a small congregation that some people put in 20 euro, and others - e.g. widows - might only be able to afford a few euro. The worst thing is, the collection plate is silver, so if you do put in coins, you get that inglorious clinking!

The pressure is real man! I seen it!

byhookorbycrook

GarIT wrote: »

Of course there is peer pressure. Everyone worries about looking bad by not putting anything in. And if you don't put money in the plate there will be the oul wans who tell the whole parish about how tight you are.

You may need to work on your self-esteem. I certainly don't care what people think I put in any form of collection boxes, be they the bag packing buckets at supermarket check out, Daffodil Day collection or church ones. In any case, with the envelope system in many churches, people not of that parish don't usually contribute and those who are in the parish use the envelopes, so the "auld ones" you fear so much haven't a clue.

RayM

I used to think the second collection at mass was for Cher.

There's a joke for the Catholics.

lifeandtimes

Im just so surprised so many people still go to mass. Anyone under 30 still going?

The collection plate is a shake down and I fail to see how a multibillion euro cult don't have money to pay for all theirs need when they have thousand and thousands of hecters of land and their leader is drinking out of gold chalice' s everyday.

The leader is good,the leader is great, we surrender our will as of this date

Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah batman....i mean leaderrrrrrrrrr

freshpopcorn

I find most people just put in coins.
Some people have the envelopes. I think think they've something to do with claiming back through tax!

RayM

lifeandtimes wrote: »

Im just so surprised so many people still go to mass. Anyone under 30 still going?

I was about to answer this and then I remembered that I turned 30 over five years ago. But yeah, I still go the very odd time. Anniversaries and sometimes Christmas or Easter. I find it weirdly comforting and nostalgic.

WoollyRedHat

The amount of times I held up the procession because I didn't know which way it was coming. Absolutely morto so I stopped going. That and the hand shaking, making a holy eejit of myself trying to shake Tom's hand only for him to go for Sam's and then the person on the other side with their hand already engaged so I'm just left there like a wet floppy fish. That all in a 10 minute time frame, couldn't be handling that... plus all those dirty hands after touching the germ riddled change anyway... No thank you!

lifeandtimes

RayM wrote: »

I was about to answer this and then I remembered that I turned 30 over five years ago. But yeah, I still go the very odd time. Anniversaries and sometimes Christmas or Easter. I find it weirdly comforting and nostalgic.

Swisssshhhh, nothing but net!

RayM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

The amount of times I held up the procession because I didn't know which way it was coming. Absolutely morto so I stopped going. That and the hand shaking, like you just touched your filthy change and then other people's dirty hands, get up our of tyat

Not to mention touching the holy water in the font that every bastard and his mother has been dipping their scabby hands into.

WoollyRedHat

RayM wrote: »

Not to mention touching the holy water in the font that every bastard and his mother has been dipping their scabby hands into.

Like what the peanut dish was to a bar. Communal and disease ridden!

Nettle Soup

Are they back selling indulgences yet?

lmimmfn

As much as I knock the church, back in the 80/90s collected money was used e.g. for housing for poor sods who spent 5+ years building houses and had them destroyed in storms, etc. The book on collections and expenditure was publicly available for anyone to view.
Its one of the only things I can think that's good from the church here.

Victor

myshirt wrote: »

Our church back home published a list of houses that had not returned their offerings as a reminder, but really a roundabout way of creating a bold boys list and peer pressure.

Potentially defamatory, but definite data protection issues.

GarIT wrote: »

Of course there is peer pressure. Everyone worries about looking bad by not putting anything in. And if you don't put money in the plate there will be the oul wans who tell the whole parish about how tight you are.

Doesn't make sense when some churches do direct debits, etc.

LETHAL LADY

Can I donate by singing a hymn?
Amos the leper is a personal fave.

Donald Trump

Ah would yiz ever get some hobbies for yourself.

The Op decides that the Catholic Church is facilitating the use of modern technology as a new additional method of making voluntary payment to already existing and established collections.

Turns out it's not even the Catholic Church but sure there's the usual eejits on here giving out.

If Hindus start accepting donations in gold or Scientologists start accepting bitcoin, to be honest, less of a fuck could I, or any sane person, not give.

Some people giving out that some fella had to contribute to use the church for his wedding. Why do some people feel so entitled to having everything given to them for free? Is it a hangover from dole and welfare state mentality? You'll probably find that the loudest complainers are also the loudest "sneerers" who probably don't have anything to do with the church anyway.

I have nothing to do with the local soccer club. I'm not going to expect them to give me the use of their hall for free. Even though I'm sure that FIFA are a wealthy organisation with a lot of money and property. And I'm sure there are cases of soccer coaches who molested kids somewhere on the globe over the last 100 years. And still the bastards won't give me the hall for free........ I mean should I not be entitled to it because Pedro and the rest of his under 12's mexico city soccer team got bummed by Jose the local paedo coach back in the '70s?

discobeaker

My local church posts out a booklet with the names of EVERYONE from the parish who has donated during the year and the exact amount they donated through the little envelopes or cheques.

It's pretty disgusting. Some people are struggling with money but then you see people donating 4 or 5k a year but thanks to the church everyone knows who doesn't donate enough and names and shames them in the yearly booklet

Lucy8080

I've heard tell that the Rev. Ian Paisley was famous for his " silent collections".

Who needs coins dropping onto plates and disturbing the peace of the congregation?

Politics/religion/philosophy...people contribute to what they think/believe is in their own interests.

Donald Trump

Lucy8080 wrote: »

I've heard tell that the Rev. Ian Paisley was famous for his " silent collections".

Who needs coins dropping onto plates and disturbing the peace of the congregation?

Politics/religion/philosophy...people contribute to what they think/believe is in their own interests.

If the Catholic Church did not publish their figures sure people would be complaining too. - "Wait they're taking money off all the people and nobody knows how much".

That's nice that Mr Paisley decided not to publish how much money he was raking in to his own church....kind of like those US TV evangelicals with their "private churches".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg

Lucy8080

Rosalyn Sharp Crater wrote: »

Revelation 13:

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Welcome to RFID 'Tap n' burn' payment system

This should be posted in the thread about being left handed.

Give 'em lift!