Will Rickie Fowler ever win a Major?

marbless

So 2017 saw first Major wins by Sergio Garcia, Brooks Koepka and Justin Thomas.

Makes me wonder if Rickie Fowler will ever win a Major. He's been close a few times, but is he mentally strong enough to make the big breakthrough?

Rikand

Ye he will - too good a player not too and has been close a few times already. it's coming

FortuneChip

The only thing that's stopping him is strong competition.

There's no guarantee he will win one, but he's got the game and I don't think he suffers mentally to get it done.

rooney30

Capable of winning any one of the four which is not what you can say about every player, e.g. Kaymer not suited to Augusta, Bubba can't get his head around links golf . You would think it's only a matter of time , though like Stenson and Garcia it may take a while

Deeper Blue

I'd be very surprised if he didn't win one in the next three years.

He's a great putter so you'd imagine that should get him over the line at some stage.

I certainly hope he does anyway, very likeable is Rickie.

red ears

His chipping is very good too. He had a baf few holes at the end of day 3 that put him out of real contention this year. I don't think he will win leading after day 3 though. He suits making a bit of a charge from a few shots back.

Kauto

Would be suprised if he was to win one. Always hanging around but the type of player who never gets the job done. Very similar to Lee Westwood. You can always rely on him to mess up when in contention.
A player I always lay when in contention. Money making machine.

valoren

He has won the Players Championship. You don't win that if you don't have the game to win a Major.

He's 28. Assuming he stays healthy, maintains form and plays to his late 30's, he has 40 chances to win one. I like those odds

nc6000

Just saw on CNN that the last four major winners all have six letters in their first and last names.

Sergio Garcia
Brooks Koepka
Jordan Spieth
Justin Thomas

Maybe Rickie Fowler will be next.........

martinkop

nc6000 wrote: »

Just saw on CNN that the last four major winners all have six letters in their first and last names.

Sergio Garcia
Brooks Koepka
Jordan Spieth
Justin Thomas

Maybe Rickie Fowler will be next.........

:rolleyes: busy morning for the stats guys at CNN:o

Rikand

nc6000 wrote: »

Just saw on CNN that the last four major winners all have six letters in their first and last names.

Sergio Garcia
Brooks Koepka
Jordan Spieth
Justin Thomas

Maybe Rickie Fowler will be next.........

Rory never had a chance!

Minderbinder

I don't think he has genuinely contended in enough majors. I wouldn't compare him to Lee Westwood who was knocking on the door regularly for a number of years. He seems likeable but harmless enough. More like Ian Poulter for me.

Russman

I'd really like to see him win a major or two, by all accounts he's a really good guy, but I'm not convinced he will. Its harder and harder to have that good week with the competition so strong these days, and if any of the top guys play well, Rickie doesn't beat them.
Its tricky to know which major he might win, possibly a windy/stormy Open might be his best bet.

marbless

Russman wrote: »

I'd really like to see him win a major or two, by all accounts he's a really good guy, but I'm not convinced he will. Its harder and harder to have that good week with the competition so strong these days, and if any of the top guys play well, Rickie doesn't beat them.

That sums up my own opinion perfectly. It's so hard to win a Major, as seen by the length of time it took Sergio to finally succeed (I'd given up on him, to be honest).

I remember Butch Harmon being critcial of Fowler (at this year's Masters, I think) for his lack of focus and tendency to hit some rank bad shots which took him out of contention.

In general, it's no surprise that certain players failed to win a Major: Montgomery, for example, simply lacked the bottle when the pressure mounted, and Westwood's short game wasn't good enough.

Then you think of guys like Kite, Couples, Pavin and Love - just one Major each, which proves how tough it is. Toms is another with one, when his great putting might have been expected to bring at least one more.

I hope very much Rickie puts it all together over 72 holes in a Major before too much longer.

kieran.

nc6000 wrote: »

Just saw on CNN that the last four major winners all have six letters in their first and last names.

Sergio Garcia
Brooks Koepka
Jordan Spieth
Justin Thomas

Maybe Rickie Fowler will be next.........

His real name is Rick Fowler so I think hes out of the double 6 letter name gang!!

Johnny_Fontane

remember Phil didn't win until a major until his 13th year on tour. It aint ever easy! Phil had over 20 pga tour wins at that stage and was 34....plenty of time for Rickie!

marbless

Any further thoughts on the Fowler question at the end of another Majorless year?

Russman

marbless wrote: »

Any further thoughts on the Fowler question at the end of another Majorless year?

I'm gone from thinking/hoping he might sneak one at some point, to thinking, no, he'll probably finish up with none (brilliant career notwithstanding).
I think he needs too many players to have an off week for him to have a real chance. IMO if any of DJ, Koepka, Day, Rory, JT, Speith, Rose turn up and play well, they beat him. And at least one of them almost always plays well.

Hope he does though !

GreeBo

Russman wrote: »

I'm gone from thinking/hoping he might sneak one at some point, to thinking, no, he'll probably finish up with none (brilliant career notwithstanding).
I think he needs too many players to have an off week for him to have a real chance. IMO if any of DJ, Koepka, Day, Rory, JT, Speith, Rose turn up and play well, they beat him. And at least one of them almost always plays well.

Hope he does though !

What do you reckon he needs? Whats missing from his game?
Or is it all upstairs....

kiers47

Id imagine if you ran this poll again the result would be entirely different.

I enjoy Rickie but he has not won enough to be talked of in the way that he is.
He has won 4 times on the pga tour in over 200 starts. But is regularly considered on the same level as Spieth, Thomas, etc... probably just because they are buddies.
He has plenty time left in his career now but at the moment he is at the same level as a Gary Woodland or Kevin Kisner type. Regularly in contention but rarely wins.

Pa8301

I've gone from the he definitely will camp to the not a chance side on numerous occasions, usually because anytime I back him he lets me down!
I actually think he will win a major at some stage but it will come from a final day charge from 4 or 5 shots back as opposed to sleeping on a 54 hole lead or being in the final group.

rickis tache

of course he will.....as long as he don't get rid of me...

Russman

GreeBo wrote: »

What do you reckon he needs? Whats missing from his game?
Or is it all upstairs....

Honestly, I've no idea. He seems to have all the tools, or at least his game is as good as many major winners, yet you always feel he's not really at the level of a DJ or JT etc. I think his driving can be crooked at times, but there's none of the top guys particularly accurate with the driver anyway.
He just seems to hit a real bad shot at the worst possible time. I'd love to see him win one, maybe he just needs a bit of luck at the right time.

Minderbinder

As I said last year, the American Poulter.

kiers47

Minderbinder wrote: »

As I said last year, the American Poulter.

I was thinking Paul Casey myself. Capable of winning if he gets in the house an hour before anyone else.
Fills the trousers if in front to early in the final groups

Adamocovic

Call me foolish but I still believe he can do it.

Was hoping the Masters would fall together for him but shows he's still in contention. He had a poor spell but over the last 8th Majors he has 3 top 5 finishes and his worse result was 28th.

People thought for a long time Garcia would never win one. It's mad to think Rickie is still not 30 years old, but if he can continue his form and it can fall together for him he should win won. Has the talent necessary.

Deeper Blue

I think he's too talented not to win one, he's still got time on his side so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

I found it interesting that he's the only automatic qualifier for the US Ryder cup team that hasn't won a major.

GreeBo

NDWC wrote: »

I think he's too talented not to win one, he's still got time on his side so I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

I found it interesting that he's the only automatic qualifier for the US Ryder cup team that hasn't won a major.

I dont think talent = major

Just ask Monty or Donald

Deeper Blue

GreeBo wrote: »

I dont think talent = major

Just ask Monty or Donald

Fair point, I just think Rickie's putting is good enough to get him over the line at some point. Then again Donald was an excellent putter too.

GreeBo

NDWC wrote: »

Fair point, I just think Rickie's putting is good enough to get him over the line at some point. Then again Donald was an excellent putter too.

His short putting is pretty immense, I do wonder how it will last as he gets older though, that style doesnt suit an older guy (especially one searching for a major!)

Remember the curious case of Phil Mickelson? Somewhat into his thirties before getting over the line, after a legion of near misses. Rickie will eventually make the breakthrough, competition at elite level is plentiful these days.

Deeper Blue

GreeBo wrote: »

His short putting is pretty immense, I do wonder how it will last as he gets older though, that style doesnt suit an older guy (especially one searching for a major!)

True it's very much a younger man's stroke, I can't see him using it once the nerves get a bit more frayed!

bobwilliams

I think it's ridiculous to say no he won't win one,the chances are he probably won't win one but that's only because there are only 4 a year and you need to peak in all parts of the game on a given week.
People said the same about Garcia and he proved them wrong.
There are many different ways to win a major..remember Ogilvy in the U.S Open,having a sandwich in the clubhouse thinking..nice 1 ..top 5 finish then everyone in contention messes up including Monty and Phil and he's handed the trophy almost by fluke.. different pressure levels than the last few groups.

My own opinion is he will win at least one as I think he's probably the best putter on tour on his day,probably win the British open.

Russman

bobwilliams wrote: »

I think it's ridiculous to say no he won't win one,the chances are he probably won't win one but that's only because there are only 4 a year and you need to peak in all parts of the game on a given week.
People said the same about Garcia and he proved them wrong.
There are many different ways to win a major..remember Ogilvy in the U.S Open,having a sandwich in the clubhouse thinking..nice 1 ..top 5 finish then everyone in contention messes up including Monty and Phil and he's handed the trophy almost by fluke.. different pressure levels than the last few groups.

My own opinion is he will win at least one as I think he's probably the best putter on tour on his day,probably win the British open.

That’s fair.
But if someone said back in 1999 that Sergio would finish up with one major, he’d have been laughed out of it. Everyone would have assumed he’d pick up a handful. You just never know.
I used to think Rickie’s best chance would be a bad weather Open as he can really flight the ball in the wind, but now I kinda think it might be doing something like he did when he won The Players, some sort of crazy back nine finish on Sunday. Maybe coming home in 30 shots at Augusta while the leaders struggle in Amen Corner.

Bottle

I think he is a good golfer, but seems seems to have problems winning. He has 8 professional wins in total, 4 on the PGA, 2 in Europe and 2 others. That doesn’t sound great for somebody who has been mooted over the years as a major winner. For some reason he has not been able to close out the normal competitions where he has been in a good position, so it is hard to see him doing it for a major. Saying that, he has put some cracking rounds together over the years, just needs to do them all over the 1 weekend.

RoadRunner

Always high up the leaderboard. Seems to have a good attitude. His putting is excellent. His first major will begin a string of them.

He'll have a Garcia masters w/end sometime and win one - won't take as long as Garcia either.
Lucky Garcia got that one considering his form since.
Even Darren Clarke got one!

Rikand

glasso wrote: »

He'll have a Garcia masters w/end sometime and win one - won't take as long as Garcia either.
Lucky Garcia got that one considering his form since.
Even Darren Clarke got one!

Sometimes the stars just align.

Garcia, like Lowry, has more important things(kids) in his life atm.

Mysterypunter

He will for sure. Didn't play well this year and was still second in the Masters. Reed did well to win, but had a huge slice of luck on the 17th in the final round. The ball was going 15ft past, and hit the hole. He was left with a 5 footer. If it was any longer he may have missed. Reed only won by one in the end, that was the one. Fowler will win at least one, probably three or more in the wind up. The downside is he is just hitting 30 years old, time doesn't stand still for anyone