Football Hooligans and their stupid flags.

RobbieTheRobber

GLaDOS wrote: »

Tbf, the fighting usually happens on the pitch in GAA

Except when its on the train.

Oranage2

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Oranage2 wrote: »

Almost the same thing if you go to a shamrock rovers game, these people are usually not the most intelligent and are out to cause trouble no matter what.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

What recent shamrock rovers game has been marred by hooligan trouble?
When have shamrock rovers fans been involved in hooliganism abroad?

Are you a bit of a daft c?

It's well known Rovers have a bad reputation, you can see a lot of small scuffles around tallaght village and Sean Walsh park during games against rivals. My mother's friend is afraid to bring her children to games because some area of the stands are shouting profanities and an a general unfriendly atmosphere.

And if you're unable to have a conversation without insults then I guess you're the standard unintelligent LOI football supporter I mentioned in my original post.

RobbieTheRobber

Oranage2 wrote: »

It's well known Rovers have a bad reputation, you can see a lot of small scuffles around tallaght village and Sean Walsh park during games against rivals. My mother's friend is afraid to bring her children to games because some area of the stands are shouting profanities and an a general unfriendly atmosphere.

And if you're unable to have a conversation without insults then I guess you're the standard unintelligent LOI football supporter I mentioned in my original post.

:D:D

Now now who is really throwing insults about there pal?
Seems your first recourse is to be a hypocrite. Oranage2 the sophisticate!


Yeah I too live in fear that my child may be struck dead from hearing a profanity spoken at a sports game. :eek:

Mint Sauce

Lol, not every flag waver is a hooligan, nor is every Ultra or Forza, but there is definitely a few dickheads amongst nearly all of them.

As for the Shams fans, nearly anytime time they come to The Showgrounds, home of the real Rovers btw, there is nearly always one or two of them ejected or arrested. Never hear this happening to 'fans' of other clubs, not sure if that is down to travelling in higher numbers so higher chance if incident, or maybe they are genuinely are being a tit.

Fratton Fred

redcup342 wrote: »

So in Dusseldorf a few weeks ago there were some English lads over for a football game.

I was walking back from the shops and saw a priest trying to take down some flags from their Rectory, some football hooligan meathead watched him for a few minutes then gets up and walks over from the Irish Pub and starts pushing the Priest around the place screaming all sorts of abuse at him.



Anyway the Priest went off pretty rattled and the guy went back with his arms raised to his mates sitting outside the Irish Pub with them all cheering and laughing on his way back.

I went home, thinking it's yet another stupid football hooligan incident and thought that was the end of it.

Reading the news then I saw this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4726758/Aston-Villa-supporters-attacked-Dusseldorf-pub.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQhA21cOCA

Daily Fail is saying it was just out of nowhere and unexpected.

What do you think? Do you think if you go hanging flags in a foreign country on walls all over the place around the bar you are drinking in you are asking for trouble ?

Or is it just an English Problem ?

Edit: It's gotten so bad now that for any big games involving the English, the bars close 30 minutes before the game ends, many of the Cities/Towns around the area completely close up shop as they don't want the hassle.

Dusseldorf is becoming the same because they just don't want to waste the police sitting around watching the English lads.

pretty much every news report of that incident seems to claim that it was Dusseldorf fans that attacked Villa fans? Which isn't surpricing, seeing as German fans have a very bed reputation for violence

http://www.dw.com/en/dortmund-fans-attack-leipzig-supporters-ahead-of-tense-match-police/a-37421717

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/05/burnley-vs-hannover-friendly-called-off-due-to-german-football-fans-violence-6831794/

BillyBobBS

Not big into football but a few years back i was in London on business and Manchester United where playing in a european final against Barcelona i think it was and a few of their "fans" decided to hang banners outside the bars across the road from my hotel whilst they sank pints and sang some pretty embarrassing songs. Some of the stuff on the banners was like something a 15yo scumbag would come up with but these seemed to be groups of grown men. They then decided to attack a group of three Barcelona supporters who walked by one of the bars even though the Spanish fans looked intent on being friendly and taking photos. This all took place at 2pm god knows what state they must have been by the start of the match!!

Beefy78

Bringing your flag over and pinning it all around town and pubs is pretty obnoxious behaviour. Said as an English football fan. It's an attempt at intimidation.

I've only been to one LOI game, a Rovers vs Bohs derby, but it was (for better or worse) like going to an English game in the early 90s. Very loud atmosphere but a genuinely threatening under-current and the Guards were all over everyone on the way out.

Beered-up, loud arseholes aren't exclusive to either country.

uch

Oranage2 wrote: »

It's well known Rovers have a bad reputation, you can see a lot of small scuffles around tallaght village and Sean Walsh park during games against rivals. My mother's friend is afraid to bring her children to games because some area of the stands are shouting profanities and an a general unfriendly atmosphere.

And if you're unable to have a conversation without insults then I guess you're the standard unintelligent LOI football supporter I mentioned in my original post.

I've been bringing my kids to Rovers matches for 20 years and never had any problems, if you are worried about a bit of bad language at a sporting event then perhaps a solo sport such as fishing is more suited. Try standing on Hill 16 at any game, be it Hurling or football and you'll hear some lovely colloquial language, it's live sport, it happens.
As for the daft flags, I have to agree with Beefy, it's just an intimidation tactic and should be banned outside all stadia.

Mint Sauce

uch wrote: »

I've been bringing my kids to Rovers matches for 20 years and never had any problems, if you are worried about a bit of bad language at a sporting event then perhaps a solo sport such as fishing is more suited. Try standing on Hill 16 at any game, be it Hurling or football and you'll hear some lovely colloquial language, it's live sport, it happens.
As for the daft flags, I have to agree with Beefy, it's just an intimidation tactic and should be banned outside all stadia.

Bad language is part of the course at a lot sporting events. But it's the intimidating, and physical behaviour that's on discussion here I thought.

I too have no issue with chants against opposing players or officals, unless it's about Race/Sexuality, etc. But what I don't want is to have abuse hurled at me just because I am wearing an opposing shirt, 'fans' running onto the pitch to hurl abuse, or missels being thrown into the field.

scopper

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Ah come on man there is plenty of links and evidence of rovers fans in violence.

https://youtu.be/I7XwnFpG174

https://youtu.be/2VrL8h0hE48

To be fair that is what, 30-40 people, being generous? I've seen bigger brawls at school discos

Have to say enjoyed the colour and edginess Rovers fans brought to Turners X back in the 00s when I went to a lot of Cork City games. Ended up drinking with their Ultras after an Irish international game. A few months later, was standing outside a pub near the Cross after a Cork City - Rovers game, watching the Gardai trying to corral a group of them. As the bottles flew a few of them spotted me and heard shouts of "howya Conor" from a few of their hardcore and had to laugh.

Oranage2

uch wrote: »

Oranage2 wrote: »

It's well known Rovers have a bad reputation, you can see a lot of small scuffles around tallaght village and Sean Walsh park during games against rivals. My mother's friend is afraid to bring her children to games because some area of the stands are shouting profanities and an a general unfriendly atmosphere.

And if you're unable to have a conversation without insults then I guess you're the standard unintelligent LOI football supporter I mentioned in my original post.

I've been bringing my kids to Rovers matches for 20 years and never had any problems, if you are worried about a bit of bad language at a sporting event then perhaps a solo sport such as fishing is more suited. Try standing on Hill 16 at any game, be it Hurling or football and you'll hear some lovely colloquial language, it's live sport, it happens.
As for the daft flags, I have to agree with Beefy, it's just an intimidation tactic and should be banned outside all stadia.

And would you bring your kids to to a bohs or pats game?

I've no kids myself but I certainly wouldn't want them to grow up with a yobish mentality that its acceptable to call grown men w*nkers because he may have made a wrong call.

I'm from tallaght myself and I think they should sell the Rovers season tickets at the welfare office, kill two birds with one stone.

Arghus

Because football is the most popular sport in the world it's going to attract a few morons.

SEPT 23 1989

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Not big into football but a few years back i was in London on business and Manchester United where playing in a european final against Barcelona i think it was and a few of their "fans" decided to hang banners outside the bars across the road from my hotel whilst they sank pints and sang some pretty embarrassing songs. Some of the stuff on the banners was like something a 15yo scumbag would come up with but these seemed to be groups of grown men. They then decided to attack a group of three Barcelona supporters who walked by one of the bars even though the Spanish fans looked intent on being friendly and taking photos. This all took place at 2pm god knows what state they must have been by the start of the match!!

Women and kids

It's the united way

testaccount123

Some amount of sad sacks on this thread. Pathetic stuff

AllGunsBlazing

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Lol, not every flag waver is a hooligan, nor is every Ultra or Forza, but there is definitely a few dickheads amongst nearly all of them.

As for the Shams fans, nearly anytime time they come to The Showgrounds, home of the real Rovers btw, there is nearly always one or two of them ejected or arrested. Never hear this happening to 'fans' of other clubs, not sure if that is down to travelling in higher numbers so higher chance if incident, or maybe they are genuinely are being a tit.

In absolute fairness we've had a few young ones showing up at The Showgrounds (or sneaking in to be more accurate) who were intent on nothing else but acting the maggot. This was mostly around the time when we were challenging for titles a few years back. Ironically it's much quieter now that we're struggling...

testaccount123

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

In absolute fairness we've had a few young ones showing up at The Showgrounds (or sneaking in to be more accurate) who were intent on nothing else but acting the maggot. This was mostly around the time when we were challenging for titles a few years back. Ironically it's much quieter now that we're struggling...

Jesus its a reasonable Sligo Rovers fan on the internet, Im amazed!

Mint Sauce

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

In absolute fairness we've had a few young ones showing up at The Showgrounds (or sneaking in to be more accurate) who were intent on nothing else but acting the maggot. This was mostly around the time when we were challenging for titles a few years back. Ironically it's much quieter now that we're struggling...

I have heard of young ones attacking opposing buses a couple of times, usally quite away from the ground, as far as the junction of the Releif Road and Summerhill Roundabout at the start of the N4 dual carriageway, about a five minute walk from the ground, for anyone who does not know the area. This too a few years back. Was argued, possibly by the Guards or S(ligo)RFC that they were not in attendence at the match.

Omackeral

Oranage2 wrote: »

It's well known Rovers have a bad reputation, you can see a lot of small scuffles around tallaght village and Sean Walsh park during games against rivals. My mother's friend is afraid to bring her children to games because some area of the stands are shouting profanities and an a general unfriendly atmosphere.

And if you're unable to have a conversation without insults then I guess you're the standard unintelligent LOI football supporter I mentioned in my original post.

Oh no bad language at a game. Don't go to a match in England so, it happens there too. As for your ''standard unintelligent LOI football supporter'', you best include Uachtaran na hEireann Michael D. Higgins in that as he's as staunch as a supporter as you can find. Honorary president of Galway United and can be spotted at at any given LOI ground around the country on any given weekend.

Not gonna shred people to hard on this as it's seemingly a common misconception but Ultra does not equal hooligan. Ultras are the ones that make banners, bring the flares and generate the noise and colour in the stadiums. They make great displays and are the lifeblood of their clubs in many ways. Most people lazily just think Ultra means hooligan because they simply don't go to football week in and week out.

PS I f*cking hate Shamrock Rovers myself but I respect their dedicated fans more than some bloke who has deluded himself into thinking he's a Scouser or a Manc.

tomofson

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

Spotted the Shamrock Rovers 'ultras' one evening in town before some LoI game. Pitiful sight. Most of them were fat auld fellas wearing Adidas Original runners and parkas. Like a throw back to an Oasis video from the mid-90's.The ones who weren't fat auld fellas were your typical skobie - unusually small head, grey tracksuit, unusually white runners.

Where does the stereotype of an "underclass" person having an "unusually small head" come from? Do people actually look at others and measure the size of their heads in their own minds?

Rumpy Pumpy

tomofson wrote: »

Where does the stereotype of an "underclass" person having an "unusually small head" come from? Do people actually look at others and measure the size of their heads in their own minds?

They do appear to have unusually small heads. Could be something to do with foetal alcohol syndrome maybe?

tomofson

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

They do appear to have unusually small heads. Could be something to do with foetal alcohol syndrome maybe?

I have never noticed, though I wouldn't be paying much attention to the size of a persons head, I have noticed people making references to it in recent times though.

selectamatic

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

Same reason people follow the world rally championship instead of standing in a field in Donegal in February watching some gimp driving a Ford Escort around a bend.

Very few people in Ireland "follow" the wrc in a literal sense, they might watch highlights of it on telly during a quiet evening but many many people literally follow Irish rallying.

Ireland is home to some of the best tarmac rally drivers in the world, some of these "gimps" are able to keep pace and occasionally beat top spec wrc cars in their pitiful ford escorts.

Seems to me your most of your issues stem from a sneering attitude towards Irish sport in general be it the LOI or any other organisation you feel is beneath warranting your attention.