What would happen if suddenly there was no USA

AllForIt

So aliens from outer space visit earth, go straight to the US of A and abduct every last American. Effectively no more United states of America, never to influence any facet of life on earth ever again.

That would leave Russia and China as the two remaining superpowers. What would happen - would the world be better or worse off ?

Cortina_MK_IV

So aliens from outer space visit earth, go straight to the US of A and they abduct every last American.

It would want to be one big f**king space ship.

matchthis

Travelling millions of light years and yer all about the size of the thing.

conditioned games

Sponsorship of worldwide terrorism would end, unless Britain managed to become a superpower again.

Less wars and conflict around the world and a fairer financial system not based on selling oil through US dollars.

maxwell smart

No season 7 of Game of Thrones from HBO?

Gatling

conditioned games wrote: »

Less wars and conflict around the world and a fairer financial system not based on selling oil through US dollars.

But base off rubels and yuan a return to the occupation of Eastern Europe and further afield

Less conflict yeah right

Taxburden carrier

No more World Series

The_Valeyard

British take back 13 colonies.

Russia takes Alaska

Spain takes California

Mexico reclaims territory lost

Canada takes the great plains

Europe draws closer together in light of Russian aggression and Chinese expansion after their victory in the Indian border wars.

ceadaoin.

AllForIt wrote: »

So aliens from outer space visit earth, go straight to the US of A and abduct every last American. Effectively no more United states of America, never to influence any facet of life on earth ever again.

That would leave Russia and China as the two remaining superpowers. What would happen - would the world be better or worse off ?

What about the millions of non Americans who live there? Are they left unscathed?

The_Valeyard

ceadaoin. wrote: »

What about the millions of non Americans who live there? Are they left unscathed?

Immigrants take control!

For Forks Sake

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Immigrants take control!

Dey terk er jerbs!!!

Also, average weight of humanity would be significantly reduced.

The_Valeyard

Also wasnt this not the plot to the film 'Skyline,' when humanity gets all vacuumed up.

alberto67

Nothing, we'd just go back to using the old maps.

OldMrBrennan83

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the_pen_turner

one big war over who gets the new free land.

conditioned games

The USA is the Rothschilds enforcer. The US sponsors terrorism around the world, getting their men in power while sending in the World Bank and IMF attaching debt to the people of the country.

Under the Bible and Koran it is forbidden to charge interest on debt but that is the main source of power for those that control not only the US but most of the world today. Create money out of thin air, charge interest on debt and enslave millions of people around the world. Democracy American style.

FGR

One thing I strongly believe is that Europe would all of a sudden become far more integrated than it is now and that investment in both military and law enforcement would increase drastically - we'd become far more isolationist outside of the bloc than we are now given the threats posed from the east.

The UK would probably get serious about tightening relations with Canada, India and Australia.

As much as people disagree with US domestic and foreign policy I strongly believe we'd be a very different place both socially and economically if the country ceased to exist.

...Also who'd buy our woolen jumpers ?! :pac:

greencap

EU becomes global leader. Becomes more federalized. Military spending jumps.

Desperate scramble in UK to Breturn. Breturn wins by walkover result.

The 'wheel of middle east' gets spun repeatedly, random high death tolls result, anybodys guess where/how many. Israel likely survives, unofficial nod nod understandings between Israel, EU and Saudi re; security, fuel, markets, tech access, global stability.

EU borders fortified. UN civil intervention in north Africa. EU begins stabilization program to make north Africa an immigration fire-line and manufacturing hub.

Latin American/EU trade alliance. Russian/Chinese counter alliance.

South Korea obtains nukes faster than Kim jong un obtains the last slice of pizza. Standoff results.

Bio Mech

AllForIt wrote: »

So aliens from outer space visit earth, go straight to the US of A and abduct every last American. Effectively no more United states of America, never to influence any facet of life on earth ever again.

That would leave Russia and China as the two remaining superpowers. What would happen - would the world be better or worse off ?

Would they leave non American citizens there? Would they have to check everyone's passport? What about people with dual citizenship?

Arghus

Sales of red wine would be unaffected.

riffmongous

AllForIt

Cortina_MK_IV wrote: »

It would want to be one big f**king space ship.

Yes, humongous, like in Independence Day.

maxwell smart wrote: »

No season 7 of Game of Thrones from HBO?

Well that would be one positive thing.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

What about the millions of non Americans who live there? Are they left unscathed?

Ok so this hypothetical happens in a few years when all non Americans have been banished by Trump.

Manach

The SciFi Author John Birmingham had this as the premise of his Without waring series. The outcome was widespread war and civil unrest as the rest of the World reacted to this, as well as the elements of the US army overseas attempting to restore the US.

Django99

This shouldn't be that hard to answer seeing as the US as we know it has a very short past compared to the rest of the world.

Europe and Asia would be the centres of economic activity and would lead world politics. South America would be very isolated and would probably fall even further backwards on the economic scale.

Africa would continue tonne extremely poor. Canada would be an interesting case. It has plenty of natural resources but it would be very isolated.

ArchXStanton

There would no countries getting democracy...delivered bomb by bomb

Gatling

ArchXStanton wrote: »

There would no countries getting democracy...delivered bomb by bomb

Tell that to Ukraine or Georgia , east Germany ,Poland,lativa,lithuania , Moldova, Afghanistan,or south Korea or any other multiude of countries

Charles Babbage

Japan and Cuba would play to be baseball champions.

ArchXStanton

Gatling wrote: »

Tell that to Ukraine or Georgia , east Germany ,Poland,lativa,lithuania , Moldova, Afghanistan,or south Korea or any other multiude of countries

Vietnamese rice farmers in rubber flip flops would probably disagree with out...or bearded goat herders wrapped in sheets in the middle east..

Gatling

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Vietnamese rice farmers in rubber flip flops would probably disagree with out...or bearded goat herders wrapped in sheets in the middle east..

Would these be the same ones asking america to keep china from claming territorial waters ,

Do try harder

Awful way to think of people in the middle East as bearded goat headers

jacksie66

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ArchXStanton

Gatling wrote: »

Would these be the same ones asking america to keep china from claming territorial waters ,

Do try harder

Awful way to think of people in the middle East as bearded goat headers

US bombs don't discriminate.. everyone is fair game goats,chickens,children...they seem to have trouble hitting head chopping death squads though

jacksie66

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AllForIt

Manach wrote: »

The SciFi Author John Birmingham had this as the premise of his Without waring series. The outcome was widespread war and civil unrest as the rest of the World reacted to this, as well as the elements of the US army overseas attempting to restore the US.

Never heard of him, just looked him up. Would have freaked me out if aliens were involved.

Anyway the reason I posed the question is because my dad has been getting on my wick of late (well, ever more so than usual) because he never shuts up about America dropping bombs on counties. Like he just spontaneously goes on a rant and says things like 'why can't North Korea have nuclear weapons if America can have them'. We should never have gotten him that satellite dish cause I'm been told he watches RT NEWS late at night. There's not talking to him because when he talks I shut up and listen and that's how it always will be. Their's no point in telling him he's living in an echo chamber as he wouldn't have a clue what that means, not that I particularly care for that trendy expression.

So I just thought today what the hell does he want. Would he prefer there was no USA or more realistically the US withdrew from the world stage never to interfere in foreign affairs ever again. That doesn't bear thinking about for me, god only knows what would happen with Putin in power indefinitely not to mention communist China and how all that will develop over the years. I don't think my dad knows what communism is actually. Certainly won't hear talk about it on RT News that's for sure.

Capt'n Midnight

If every american was abducted then the all the legal and illegal immigrants would take over.

jeanjolie

Revival of the Native Americans, Season 2

Atoms for Peace

The Queen of England would rule the world!

Call Me Jimmy

China would step in and make almost identical geopolitical moves until they too get abducted

whisky_galore

Global IQ increases exponentially.

Permabear

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franklyon

Israel wouldn't last a week, Arab countries would form a coalition to invade and massive genocide would ensue, those who can escape flee to Europe.

Europe would quickly become more integrated to protect against renewed Russian aggression in the Baltic states.

The former states would be divided up into 3 pieces, to the south Mexico to the North Canada and the Midwest by native Americans.

H3llR4iser

Interesting scenario...does the world know that an alien civilization is involved?

If they knew, there'd be an initial phase of rallying together against the new "common enemy" (humanity loves common enemies) like we've seen in countless Sci-Fi Alien Armageddon stories; Soon enough, a handful of countries would go behind everyone's back and try to strike a deal with the alien civilization in exchange of safety / technology / armaments / knowledge / whatever. Global war ensues, the aliens quickly realize Earth and humanity aren't worth their time, drop the Americans back to the planet and warp away to the sixth moon of the 4th planet orbiting Nu Ophiuchi, renowned holiday spot with its crystalline methane oceans.

If they didn't know about the aliens, Earthlings would initially be shocked, then would quickly start to realize how most of our technology, information and economy is either American-researched or American-dependent; Economic collapse would ensue, billions of people reduced to misery quickly followed by global conflict on un unprecedented scale in order to seize control of any intelligence, technology and wealth left behind by the USA.

Permabear

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Irish Praetorian

The simple minded would need to find a new scape goat for all the worlds ills and conspiracies about international banking would need a big overhaul.

greencap

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Is that result influenced by online users?

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Ireland has the lowest average IQs in western Europe by most measures and some of the lowest in the developed world.

Gatling

franklyon wrote: »

Israel wouldn't last a week, Arab countries would form a coalition to invade and massive genocide would ensue,

Doubt it ,they beat the all already

Robsweezie

Id be mourning those pink wafers

Cheerful Spring

Permabear wrote: »

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https://www.thestar.com/life/2012/12/19/iq_a_myth_study_says.html#

To judge someones intelligence just by this is ridiculous. There is lot of crazy and naive, irrational people who would ace an IQ test.

Cubik

We would miss it hugely.

AllForIt

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Interesting scenario...does the world know that an alien civilization is involved?

If they didn't know about the aliens, Earthlings would initially be shocked, then would quickly start to realize how most of our technology, information and economy is either American-researched or American-dependent; Economic collapse would ensue, billions of people reduced to misery quickly followed by global conflict on un unprecedented scale in order to seize control of any intelligence, technology and wealth left behind by the USA.

Yes, no one knows how it happened. Russia's space exploration including it's space observation technology has been dismantled due to a deep economic recession as a result of failed Putinism. Same in UK due to Brexit. All data on all computer systems including NASA systems has been irretrievably wiped due to a huge magnetic surge caused when all the Americans were beamed up, leaving all their technology completely unusable. A nerdy armature sky watcher in Canada claims to have spotted something unusual through his telescope but it was later debunked and proven to just be a bitta bird poo on his telescope lens. Anyway it all happen in the blink of an eye such that if anything was detected no one could tell what it was.

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

China would step in and make almost identical geopolitical moves until they too get abducted

No. Aliens only abduct Americans. Besides the ship can only hold half a billion people.

jeanjolie

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Ireland has the lowest average IQs in western Europe by most measures and some of the lowest in the developed world.

You serious?

It must explain that "fecking" accent you hear. Also probably explains perfectly why this country has failed to develop.