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What would happen if suddenly there was no USA

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  • 06-08-2017 4:16pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 8,321 ✭✭✭


    So aliens from outer space visit earth, go straight to the US of A and abduct every last American. Effectively no more United states of America, never to influence any facet of life on earth ever again.

    That would leave Russia and China as the two remaining superpowers. What would happen - would the world be better or worse off ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cortina_MK_IV


    So aliens from outer space visit earth, go straight to the US of A and they abduct every last American.

    It would want to be one big f**king space ship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭matchthis


    Travelling millions of light years and yer all about the size of the thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭conditioned games


    Sponsorship of worldwide terrorism would end, unless Britain managed to become a superpower again.

    Less wars and conflict around the world and a fairer financial system not based on selling oil through US dollars.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    No season 7 of Game of Thrones from HBO?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling



    Less wars and conflict around the world and a fairer financial system not based on selling oil through US dollars.


    But base off rubels and yuan a return to the occupation of Eastern Europe and further afield

    Less conflict yeah right


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  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    No more World Series :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    British take back 13 colonies.

    Russia takes Alaska

    Spain takes California

    Mexico reclaims territory lost

    Canada takes the great plains

    Europe draws closer together in light of Russian aggression and Chinese expansion after their victory in the Indian border wars.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    AllForIt wrote: »
    So aliens from outer space visit earth, go straight to the US of A and abduct every last American. Effectively no more United states of America, never to influence any facet of life on earth ever again.

    That would leave Russia and China as the two remaining superpowers. What would happen - would the world be better or worse off ?

    What about the millions of non Americans who live there? Are they left unscathed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    What about the millions of non Americans who live there? Are they left unscathed?

    Immigrants take control!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Immigrants take control!

    Dey terk er jerbs!!!

    Also, average weight of humanity would be significantly reduced.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Also wasnt this not the plot to the film 'Skyline,' when humanity gets all vacuumed up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭alberto67


    Nothing, we'd just go back to using the old maps.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,509 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    one big war over who gets the new free land.


  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭conditioned games


    The USA is the Rothschilds enforcer. The US sponsors terrorism around the world, getting their men in power while sending in the World Bank and IMF attaching debt to the people of the country.

    Under the Bible and Koran it is forbidden to charge interest on debt but that is the main source of power for those that control not only the US but most of the world today. Create money out of thin air, charge interest on debt and enslave millions of people around the world. Democracy American style.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭FGR


    One thing I strongly believe is that Europe would all of a sudden become far more integrated than it is now and that investment in both military and law enforcement would increase drastically - we'd become far more isolationist outside of the bloc than we are now given the threats posed from the east.

    The UK would probably get serious about tightening relations with Canada, India and Australia.

    As much as people disagree with US domestic and foreign policy I strongly believe we'd be a very different place both socially and economically if the country ceased to exist.

    ...Also who'd buy our woolen jumpers ?! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    EU becomes global leader. Becomes more federalized. Military spending jumps.

    Desperate scramble in UK to Breturn. Breturn wins by walkover result.

    The 'wheel of middle east' gets spun repeatedly, random high death tolls result, anybodys guess where/how many. Israel likely survives, unofficial nod nod understandings between Israel, EU and Saudi re; security, fuel, markets, tech access, global stability.

    EU borders fortified. UN civil intervention in north Africa. EU begins stabilization program to make north Africa an immigration fire-line and manufacturing hub.

    Latin American/EU trade alliance. Russian/Chinese counter alliance.

    South Korea obtains nukes faster than Kim jong un obtains the last slice of pizza. Standoff results.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Bio Mech


    AllForIt wrote: »
    So aliens from outer space visit earth, go straight to the US of A and abduct every last American. Effectively no more United states of America, never to influence any facet of life on earth ever again.

    That would leave Russia and China as the two remaining superpowers. What would happen - would the world be better or worse off ?

    Would they leave non American citizens there? Would they have to check everyone's passport? What about people with dual citizenship?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,377 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Sales of red wine would be unaffected.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,321 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    It would want to be one big f**king space ship.

    Yes, humongous, like in Independence Day.
    No season 7 of Game of Thrones from HBO?

    Well that would be one positive thing.
    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    What about the millions of non Americans who live there? Are they left unscathed?

    Ok so this hypothetical happens in a few years when all non Americans have been banished by Trump.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,680 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    The SciFi Author John Birmingham had this as the premise of his Without waring series. The outcome was widespread war and civil unrest as the rest of the World reacted to this, as well as the elements of the US army overseas attempting to restore the US.


  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Django99


    This shouldn't be that hard to answer seeing as the US as we know it has a very short past compared to the rest of the world.

    Europe and Asia would be the centres of economic activity and would lead world politics. South America would be very isolated and would probably fall even further backwards on the economic scale.

    Africa would continue tonne extremely poor. Canada would be an interesting case. It has plenty of natural resources but it would be very isolated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    There would no countries getting democracy...delivered bomb by bomb


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    There would no countries getting democracy...delivered bomb by bomb

    Tell that to Ukraine or Georgia , east Germany ,Poland,lativa,lithuania , Moldova, Afghanistan,or south Korea or any other multiude of countries


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Japan and Cuba would play to be baseball champions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Gatling wrote: »
    Tell that to Ukraine or Georgia , east Germany ,Poland,lativa,lithuania , Moldova, Afghanistan,or south Korea or any other multiude of countries

    Vietnamese rice farmers in rubber flip flops would probably disagree with out...or bearded goat herders wrapped in sheets in the middle east..


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Vietnamese rice farmers in rubber flip flops would probably disagree with out...or bearded goat herders wrapped in sheets in the middle east..

    Would these be the same ones asking america to keep china from claming territorial waters ,

    Do try harder

    Awful way to think of people in the middle East as bearded goat headers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Gatling wrote: »
    Would these be the same ones asking america to keep china from claming territorial waters ,

    Do try harder

    Awful way to think of people in the middle East as bearded goat headers

    US bombs don't discriminate.. everyone is fair game goats,chickens,children...they seem to have trouble hitting head chopping death squads though


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