Heavyweight Boxing

Cyrus

walshb wrote: »

Let’s hope Fury doesn’t juice again and see the fight shelved!!!

Or that Joshua gets careless and gets caught

Mantis Toboggan

If Wilder beats Fury what happens then? Wilder AJ would be a belter.

US2

I really wonder what this announcement was about if neither party have signed anything, no date no venue. Both have another fight this year before these supposed 2 fights.

Hearn trying to take heat off Joshua over his alleged racist statements?

blade1

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

If Wilder beats AJ what happens then? Wilder AJ would be a belter.

Mantis Toboggan

blade1 wrote: »

*Fury

iebamm2580

think furys odd stamina will give him the advantage, aj seems to fade and dip in and out of fights and fury for a non puncher so they say can bang enough to tire aj.

yourdeadwright

Fury will put it on AJ early and get him out before 8 ,

I'm also in the corner that Fury is technically better fighter with a better gas tank in the ring only because he is way more relaxed and comfortable ,

People who clam AJ is are getting there definitions mixed up

Fury is technically and AJ is Basic ( not a knock on him) , technically is based on precise facts while basically is in a fundamental, essential or basic manner.

AJ does everything robotically but he does the basics very very well , He is far easier to read but has strength and power and speed ,

Fury is far more fine tuned and technical he has more craft and savy to his game, controls the ring better, and has much better timing ,

I think honestly think Fury wins because AJ will find it difficult to hit him clean , and I think the Fury's comfort in the ring will be the big difference,

Miccoli

Great fight that I'm really looking forward to, I'd imagine fury will be a warm favourite and I'd expect him stop Joshua in rounds 8-10.

It'll be interesting to see what tactics Joshua will bring. About a year ago I suspect he would of just walked fury down and I would of envisaged that working quite succesfully for him. I think bringing pressure to fury is still his best option, as Wilder got destroyed standing off waiting for the big shot.

walshb

iebamm2580 wrote: »

think furys odd stamina will give him the advantage, aj seems to fade and dip in and out of fights and fury for a non puncher so they say can bang enough to tire aj.

Yes, but Fury needs to contribute to AJs gas tank depleting. Fury should be constantly pressuring AJ, subtle and direct. Always making AJ think, react, work...

The Nal

Wonder when Dubois vs Joyce will be back on.

blade1

Steve Bunce on BBC.
Said will we get the Fury we saw last time and the Joshua we saw.

Makes sense really, if we do Fury will batter him.
However, Joshua at his best and Fury not, I see Joshua winning.
Both at their best???
Does Joshua blast him out of it before Fury gives him a boxing lesson??
I don't know!

blade1

blade1 wrote: »

............
Both at their best???
Does Joshua blast him out of it before Fury gives him a boxing lesson??
I don't know!

We all hope for the sort of fight that has a bit of that but it rarely happens. For me this fight is unlikely to live up to entertainment expectations.

squinn2912

Augeo wrote: »

We all hope for the sort of fight that has a bit of that but it rarely happens. For me this fight is unlikely to live up to entertainment expectations.

It happens often enough! The size of the occasion would be massive entertainment. Considering it would likely be for all the straps it’s enormous. Going into the fight a case can be made for either to win so that brings the intrigue too.

walshb

blade1 wrote: »

Steve Bunce on BBC.
Said will we get the Fury we saw last time and the Joshua we saw.

Makes sense really, if we do Fury will batter him.
However, Joshua at his best and Fury not, I see Joshua winning.
Both at their best???
Does Joshua blast him out of it before Fury gives him a boxing lesson??
I don't know!

Any other scenarios you’d like to cover?

walshb

This fight deserves no credit for getting made...

If they somehow arranged for them to fight each other next, yes. But, the obstacles and timeline involved are Sh1t..

Summer next year? Wtf..

Mantis Toboggan

Surprised Eddie is being dictated to by DK, must be some bucks involved!

US2

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Surprised Eddie is being dictated to by DK, must be some bucks involved!

What or how did he dictate eddie? Nothing has been signed they literally just agreed that if both fury and aj win their next fights that theyd fight each other which was obvious anyway

Mantis Toboggan

US2 wrote: »

What or how did he dictate eddie? Nothing has been signed they literally just agreed that if both fury and aj win their next fights that theyd fight each other which was obvious anyway

DK has been the broker in all this, he'll be taking a nice slice of the proceeds.

US2

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

DK has been the broker in all this, he'll be taking a nice slice of the proceeds.

Nothing has been signed , what did he broker? It's all a distraction to keep heat off AJ

blade1

walshb wrote: »

Any other scenarios you’d like to cover?

No.
You're better at that yourself.

And afterwards you'll say you called it.

walshb

blade1 wrote: »

No.
You're better at that yourself.

And afterwards you'll say you called it.

My kind of poster...welcome aboard.

squinn2912

blade1 wrote: »

No.
You're better at that yourself.

And afterwards you'll say you called it.

Shots fired, you guys are better entertainment than the top 10!

I’ve deliberately included a lot of ‘would, if’ because were damn all closer to this mega fight than we were a month ago. This is no more significant than boxers calling one another out on the mike inside the right after a fight. Long way to go yet.

walshb

squinn2912 wrote: »

Shots fired, you guys are better entertainment than the top 10!

I’ve deliberately included a lot of ‘would, if’ because were damn all closer to this mega fight than we were a month ago. This is no more significant than boxers calling one another out on the mike inside the right after a fight. Long way to go yet.

I was jossing, btw, as I am sure you know.

blade is a regular owl sparring partner here.

Mantis Toboggan

US2 wrote: »

Nothing has been signed , what did he broker? It's all a distraction to keep heat off AJ

Check out Fury on Instagram yesterday, thanked Daniel Kinahan multiple times for making this happen. He's the middle. He's trying to morph into the next Don king.

blade1

squinn2912 wrote: »

Shots fired, you guys are better entertainment than the top 10!

He tried to AJ me but I Fury'd him back!
Pop Pop Bang!

Cyrus

walshb wrote: »

Yes, but Fury needs to contribute to AJs gas tank depleting. Fury should be constantly pressuring AJ, subtle and direct. Always making AJ think, react, work...

Fury is constantly in motion and feinting etc why would he be any different here

Beechwoodspark

I heard a comment on radio earlier to the effect that Irish boxing was now in the toilet and ready to be flushed away.

When I think of all the genuine decent boxing ppl over decades and now it is all in the sh1tter

It was a chilling and ultimately sad truth to hear

walshb

Cyrus wrote: »

Fury is constantly in motion and feinting etc why would he be any different here

It shouldn’t be any different.

I was just making a point that he needs to wear on AJ with all he has, and not only with feints..

I never mentioned feinting,specifically. I mentioned pressure.. which encompasses everything, including feinting, which will make AJ react..

walshb

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I heard a comment on radio earlier to the effect that Irish boxing was now in the toilet and ready to be flushed away.

When I think of all the genuine decent boxing ppl over decades and now it is all in the sh1tter

It was a chilling and ultimately sad truth to hear

Our pro scene is nothing to write about anyway. Apart from Frampton, who is over the hill, we have not one world class operator..

Katie, of course. But on the men’s side nothing..

US2

walshb wrote: »

Our pro scene is nothing to write about anyway. Apart from Frampton, who is over the hill, we have not one world class operator..

Katie, of course. But on the men’s side nothing..

The mckenna kid looks promising but against cans so far