Season 7 Episode 2 "Stormborn" - "Non book readers"

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I feel like this season has no subtley to it

Jayop

Was that theons sister hanging at the front of the boat?

J. Marston

Jayop wrote: »

Was that theons sister hanging at the front of the boat?

Pretty sure it was Nym, hung with her whip.

I'd say Yara and Ellaria are Cersei's gifts.

rawn

Jayop wrote:

Was that theons sister hanging at the front of the boat?

That was the Whippy Snake. The Spear Snake was on the beam.

Kirby

J. Marston wrote: »

Nym

rawn wrote: »

Whippy Snake

And so passes Whippy Snake, first of her name.

Mr Crispy

It's probably just my stream, but are some scenes really badly lit this season? Well, darker than usual I mean.

J. Marston

Sand Snake's aren't popular but I'm not looking forward to the last one's end. I have a feeling The Mountain will be involved.

jonon9

Found this episode fast paced and I liked it. Was It me or was Dany a bit of a c**t. Nice to see Arya returning to Winterfell

golfball37

Really enjoyed it and it really moved forwards too. Didn't care much for the greyworm missendei scene or get the point of the wolf scene but all the pieces are slotting into place. Really hate having to wait another week!

Kirby

jonon9 wrote: »

Found this episode fast paced and I liked it. Was It me or was Dany a bit of a c**t. Nice to see Arya returning to Winterfell

Will she though? Maybe I read too much into the scene with her Direwolf?

"Thats not you."

By saying that her wolf is no longer the same, isn't she making the point about herself? She isn't the same little girl so why go back to Winterfell. Wouldn't surprise me to see her back on the road to Kings Landing next episode.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Another excellent episode.Looked like it was going to be just like last weeks episode with a lot of talking and planning but not much action and then boom we get a great battle sequence.

It must be dreadful to be Alfie Allen now (purely from an acting perspective).You go from playing a character who's full of life and mischief to playing a complete nothing of a character now.

Dirty Dingus McGee

golfball37 wrote: »

Really enjoyed it and it really moved forwards too. Didn't care much for the greyworm missendei scene or get the point of the wolf scene but all the pieces are slotting into place. Really hate having to wait another week!

I've only been watching on TV for the last 2 seasons but it is much better to watch on DVD in bulk.Same as yourself I'm dying to get to next weeks episode.

Vicxas

Just when you think you couldn't hate Theon Greyjoy anymore than you already did.

CMOTDibbler

Vicxas wrote: »

Just when you think you couldn't hate Theon Greyjoy anymore than you already did.

I don't know. He had a tough choice. He couldn't save Yara. The minute he attacked Euron, he'd slit her throat and start on Theon. Unlikely Theon could beat him in a fight, so best choice was to do what he did. At least Yara will be kept as a hostage. For the moment.

wp_rathead

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

I don't know. He had a tough choice. He couldn't save Yara. The minute he attacked Euron, he'd slit her throat and start on Theon. Unlikely Theon could beat him in a fight, so best choice was to do what he did. Atleast Yara will be kept as a hostage. For the moment.

I get that, but Theon knows what can happen to hostages - death may have been kinder option for Yara

CMOTDibbler

wp_rathead wrote: »

I get that, but Theon knows what can happen to hostages - death may have been kinder option for Yara

He does. But he also knows that escape is possible. Plus or minus a few bits. Mostly minus I hasten to add.

J. Marston

Theon is one of the best written and best acted characters in the show for me.

I can see why people didn't like Grey Worm and Missandei's scene but it needed some quick payoff and now it's out of the way.

CMOTDibbler

J. Marston wrote: »

Theon is one of the best written and best acted characters in the show for me.

I can see why people didn't like Grey Worm and Missandei's scene but it needed some quick payoff and now it's out of the way.

It also explained his leadership of the unsullied. He had no weaknesses.

DANNY2014

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

It also explained his leadership of the unsullied. He had no weaknesses.

So now he has weakness will he be able to lead???? Hmmmm?????

CMOTDibbler

DANNY2014 wrote: »

So now he has weakness will he be able to lead???? Hmmmm?????

Well he may be able to lead, but how fearless will he be now?

Either way, it's an interesting wrinkle that may dictate future events.

JoeyJJ

The queens hand made his first tactical error.

It seems Aria will never reunite with her family, if she does she would be limited on what she would be allowed to do and would regret going back while she has more to do?

JoeyJJ

Maybe Theon will find Gendry rowing around the place

Notorious

golfball37 wrote: »

Didn't care much for the greyworm missendei scene...

Agreed there; I figure that scene was more fan-service than anything else.

I had been thinking that the show might get a little too predictable considering they're on the path to tying up all of the characters stories. I figured Theon would save the day and it was nice to see the story skirt away from what seems obvious.

I think Theon is a great character; the poor guy always gets knocked down, and while I believe he has great intentions he's never in a position where he can improve his situation. I hope he gets a chance to shine in the coming episodes.

I was delighted to see Ser Jorah back in the fold too!

A good episode overall.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Thought Arya was a goner.. After all she went through I thought they were going to kill her off with a pack of wolves.

Thought that was a brilliant episode.

wandatowell

Well that was very good. Things can change really quickly

Brendan Filone

Euro is stealing the show so far this season:



He's a top 5 character now just for killing off the Sand Snakes, worst part of the entire series by a country mile.

Hande hoche!

Euron is great indeed, GOT needs a lunatic in play. Also glad to see Jorah (hopefully) on the mend.

Darch Nemesis wrote: »

It's probably just my stream, but are some scenes really badly lit this season? Well, darker than usual I mean.

Fair point,we watched it on Sky. Still had to close the curtains to make out some scenes.

podgemonster

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Fair point,we watched it on Sky. Still had to close the curtains to make out some scenes.

I find that a big problem when watching it at 6am before work, its too bright outside and I'm cranky as hell. Had to switch from Rice Krispies to porridge as the snap, crackle and pop was making too much noise during scenes of heavy dialogue.

PTH2009

Epic episode

Glad that all the different storylines are joining together

The scenes in the citadel are making it hard for us too eat during the show lol

CMOTDibbler

Brendan Filone wrote: »

Euro is stealing the show so far this season:

He's a top 5 character now just for killing off the Sand Snakes, worst part of the entire series by a country mile.

Yeah, he's been undervalued up to now really. A sterling character who's reputation as a badass must surely be gaining currency.

He certainly seems to have a yen for Cersei and he is proving to be more than a match for Jaime in their franc exchanges.

Pound for pound he's well up to the mark.





I'll get me coat