Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

Fr Tod Umptious

So who is our next manger ?

Horan ?
Solan ?
McGuinness ?
Holmes
John Maughan

Pocaide

I listened back to it and you are correct it was Colm Keys but to say Colm Keys as a prominent GAA correspondent has no inside information, doesn't seem credible.

RedDevil55

Pocaide wrote: »

I listened back to it and you are correct it was Colm Keys but to say Colm Keys as a prominent GAA correspondent has no inside information, doesn't seem credible.

He's a decent journalist most of the time but he was purely speculating here. Out of a panel of over 30 players it is normal for 1 or 2 to be unhappy. Didn't one of the Tyrone forwards walk off the panel earlier this year? It's widely thought that Jim Gavins relationship with Connolly is strained and that contributed to him leaving.

But again, there's no indication that happened with Mayo this time.

Pocaide

However he seems to be correct in the County Board meeting with the players so there may some truth in what he said. As for speculation, it was speculation that Rochford was going to resign in the last few days. Speculation is sometimes that, but sometimes it turns out to be fact.

PARlance

padd b1975 wrote: »

Rochford always seemed to be looking for his next chance to show what a tactical genius he was.

Not once did I ever get the impression that he was out to show himself to be a tactical genius.
That's one of the strangest criticisms I've heard about him tbh.

Coillte_Bhoy

padd b1975 wrote: »

I wouldn't jump to criticise someone who knows what's 100% best for his players and sticks to it, it creates certainty.
Rochford always seemed to be looking for his next chance to show what a tactical genius he was.

So Horan is criticised for not being willing to change tactics, Rochford is for the exact opposite

Coillte_Bhoy

Pocaide wrote: »

However he seems to be correct in the County Board meeting with the players so there may some truth in what he said. As for speculation, it was speculation that Rochford was going to resign in the last few days. Speculation is sometimes that, but sometimes it turns out to be fact.

afaik this is standard practice so i think you're trying to read something into it for the sake of it

seligehgit

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

afaik this is standard practice so i think you're trying to read something into it for the sake of it

Indeed it is standard practice for the county board to meet with player representatives for an annual end of year review.

But this group consisted solely of the Mayo captain Cillian O Connor and the two vice captains Tom Parsons and Aidan O Shea not the squad as a collective.

blinding

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

So who is our next manger ?

Horan ?
Solan ?
McGuinness ?
Holmes
John Maughan

Certainly a case for Sherlock Holmes .

km79

seligehgit wrote: »

Indeed it is standard practice for the county board to meet with player representatives for an annual end of year review.

But this group consisted solely of the Mayo captain Cillian O Connor and the two vice captains Tom Parsons and Aidan O Shea not the squad as a collective.

So they met with player representatives as is standard practice ?

Why are people looking for something that isn’t there

blinding

How do you go about changing the Mayo Co. Board ?

They could certainly do with a shake-up .

The Talking Bread

seligehgit wrote: »

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

afaik this is standard practice so i think you're trying to read something into it for the sake of it

Indeed it is standard practice for the county board to meet with player representatives for an annual end of year review.

But this group consisted solely of the Mayo captain Cillian O Connor and the two vice captains Tom Parsons and Aidan O Shea not the squad as a collective.

Seem like the natural candidates to represent the players!! FFS. Your point/issue /agenda?

seligehgit

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Seem like the natural candidates to represent the players!! FFS. Your point/issue /agenda?

My point is that is that the players as a collective didn't meet the county board as earlier appeared to be implied.

I have no idea what on earth you're on about re my agenda?

The betterment of Mayo football.

boosabum

blinding wrote: »

How do you go about changing the Mayo Co. Board ?

They could certainly do with a shake-up .

Get your club delegates to propose new members and have them voted in at AGM time, it's all very democratic actually

kala85

John Maughan just confirmed as the new offaly manager

blinding

The Mayo County board used to have difficulties with James Horan for those with medium term memories .

Then there was the Connelly / Holmes shambles !

Now the Rockford carry-on !

Whats the common theme here = Mayo County Board .

Perhaps the Mayo County Board are the Problem .

naughto

Horan 5/6 Jim 2/1 what do they no that we don’t

ProudDUB

blinding wrote: »

The Mayo County board used to have difficulties with James Horan for those with medium term memories .

Then there was the Connelly / Holmes shambles !

Now the Rockford carry-on !

Whats the common theme here = Mayo County Board .

Perhaps the Mayo County Board are the Problem .

Not forgetting the Kevin McStay brouhaha in 2014. Some bunch of operators alright..

Audioslaven

blinding wrote: »

The Mayo County board used to have difficulties with James Horan for those with medium term memories .

Then there was the Connelly / Holmes shambles !

Now the Rockford carry-on !

Whats the common theme here = Mayo County Board .

Perhaps the Mayo County Board are the Problem .

I am not standing up for the CB but the players didn't want Connelly / Holmes so you can't blame CB here.

This was first rumored on 21 August before Rochford announced his team.

muddle84

naughto wrote: »

Horan 5/6 Jim 2/1 what do they no that we don’t

Could that be based on the amount of money that is being placed on them though?

Call me Al

ProudDUB wrote: »

Not forgetting the Kevin McStay brouhaha in 2014. Some bunch of operators alright..

I think the starter for 10 has to have been the Mickey Moran story. If ever I wanted to know who or what was in charge of the Mayo County Board I saw it then.
Nothing would have surprised me after that.

Jaden

I reckon Peter Forde is in the mix for this position.

Previous Intercounty experience, and coming from working with Breaffy won't harm his chances.

Fr Tod Umptious

Like another poster here I'm not necessarily standing up for the CB here but some people just default to blaming them for everything.

On Sunday they were blamed for penny pinching on the backroom team, but when they were less than enthuastic about that back room team now they are to blame for Rochford and the same back room team not actually happening.

They were blamed for bringing in H+C and also blamed for getting rid of H+C.

In my opinion they were dead right not to go with McStay and his in law a few years ago.

Fr Tod Umptious

Give the job to Solan.

They need to bring in whatever young talent is good enough or looks good enough to be brought in.

Solan has worked with that young talent and is more likely to be willing to make the changes required.

The opening 20 mins of the u20 final was a bit of a disaster but put it down as a learning experience for all involved.

Gael85

kala85 wrote: »

John Maughan just confirmed as the new offaly manager

Is he the first manager to manage in all 4 provinces?

Mayo/Roscommon
Clare
Fermanagh
Offaly

yop

Any news lads. I went into a cave yesterday looking for leprachauns.

I hear there is an AI final at the week. Any craic besides?

PARlance

Would agree to an extent. The backroom team was certainly less than exciting for me anyway. I wouldn't have been too confident of them adding more than the previous team.

But, and it's a big but, I think the County Board backed him into a corner. It wouldn't surprise me if he was told to shop local and he certainly was put under pressure, very publicly too. The whole thing smelled of a set-up and many commented on that at the time.

Putting pressure in the midst of Club Championship is just nuts.

TCDStudent1

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Give the job to Solan.

They need to bring in whatever young talent is good enough or looks good enough to be brought in.

Solan has worked with that young talent and is more likely to be willing to make the changes required.

The opening 20 mins of the u20 final was a bit of a disaster but put it down as a learning experience for all involved.

That was the thinking in Galway with Alan Mulholland a few years ago. We had just won an AI U21 and he seemed the logical choice. He took the senior job but threw way too many of that U21 team into the seniors too quickly. He also got rid of some of the established players too quickly. Not many of that U21 team have really thrived at senior level since (those hammerings by Mayo obviously left a mark). Tom Flynn is probably the stand out one who has stepped up at senior level. So I would be a little cautious about promoting U20 managers since I saw what happened with Mulholland.



Who has been managing Castlebar the last few years? Given their dominance, would their management team not have some chance of getting the Mayo job?

yop

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

That was the thinking in Galway with Alan Mulholland a few years ago. We had just won an AI U21 and he seemed the logical choice. He took the senior job but threw way too many of that U21 team into the seniors too quickly. He also got rid of some of the established players too quickly. Not many of that U21 team have really thrived at senior level since (those hammerings by Mayo obviously left a mark). Tom Flynn is probably the stand out one who has stepped up at senior level. So I would be a little cautious about promoting U20 managers since I saw what happened with Mulholland.



Who has been managing Castlebar the last few years? Given their dominance, would their management team not have some chance of getting the Mayo job?

But Limerick hurlers did the same and yet won an AI? Its a balancing act but the line of "you cant win anything with kids" is something unpredictable.

The Cbar lads would have more sense than taking the Mayo setup tbh

Fr Tod Umptious

yop wrote: »

But Limerick hurlers did the same and yet won an AI? Its a balancing act but the line of "you cant win anything with kids" is something unpredictable.

The Cbar lads would have more sense than taking the Mayo setup tbh

"Doother" Durkan as Mayo manager.

He'd bring in Mauricio Pochettino as a consultant.