Season 7 Speculation thread - "Book readers"

CMOTDibbler

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I think Little Littlefinger is making the decisions now.

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CMOTDibbler

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I think his weakness stems from his lack of knowledge of the people who are now in control. Before this, he knew all the players intimately, had spied on them and ferretted out their secrets and played on those. His goal is Sansa and he would have expected her to fall into his arms in gratitude for his rescue at the BoB. But Jon is now in power and he knows next to nothing about him. He tried to bring up his love for Sansa with Jon and that didn't go well for reasons of creepiness.

So she's not jumping into his arms and Jon's not going to 'reward' him. Now Arya turns up and is becoming another fly in the ointment. Sansa now has too many other allies she can turn to and LF needs to seperate her from them. So he's pushing the jealousy card with Jon and trying to turn Arya against Sansa with the letter. He also seems to be pushing in the background for Sansa to usurp Jon as Queen in the north.

His downfall will be the fact that he doesn't really know Bran, Arya or Jon and he doesn't really know how much Sansa is creeped out by him.

Daith

Liam O wrote: »

Why Arya wouldn't wear another face while following him is anyone's guess though...

Doesn't she need a dead person's face though?

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Daith

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I'd say most of the would be buried by now but point taken.

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CMOTDibbler

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Yeah, I think she's got a bag full of faces. The house of black and white had a whole room* full of them.





* Room being an understatement.

paulbok

Daith wrote: »

I'd say most of the would be buried by now but point taken.

They'd have been burned. No way Jon is leaving a substantial army for the night king to ressurect outside Winterfell

Daith

paulbok wrote: »

They'd have been burned. No way Jon is leaving a substantial army for the night king to ressurect outside Winterfell

True with the exception of Rickon probably? I wonder if there's a time limit for the WW to make a corpse a wight?

CMOTDibbler

Daith wrote: »

True with the exception of Rickon probably? I wonder if there's a time limit for the WW to make a corpse a wight?

Any wights we've seen have been re-animated through being killed by a wight themselves. Or else raised by a white walker. So since all those dead were killed by men, they won't rise up spontaneously. White walkers would have to get south of the wall to do it.

Daith

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Any wights we've seen have been re-animated through being killed by a wight themselves. Or else raised by a white walker. So since all those dead were killed by men, they won't rise up spontaneously. White walkers would have to get south of the wall to do it.

Oh yes but I mean if the White Walkers got to Winterfell, could they resurrect corpses that have been dead weeks? Months?

CMOTDibbler

Daith wrote: »

Oh yes but I mean if the White Walkers got to Winterfell, could they resurrect corpses that have been dead weeks? Months?

I would think so. We've seen walking corpses in various stages of decomposition wandering around. It's what I believe is what's taking so long to gather the army of the dead. The north is a big place and there are undoubtedly corpses everywhere. All kinds of corpses including animals and giants etc.

Mr.Prodston

Imagine if we got an episode, or at least a few scenes of an episode, either this season or next which actually focused on the White Walkers and the Night's King. Like from their point of view, see what they've gone through, or a snapshot of their history over the past 1000 years or a day in the life so to speak :pac:

Next week may be as close as we'll get to that perhaps?

ThunbergsAreGo

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Imagine if we got an episode, or at least a few scenes of an episode, either this season or next which actually focused on the White Walkers and the Night's King. Like from their point of view, see what they've gone through, or a snapshot of their history over the past 1000 years or a day in the life so to speak :pac:

Next week may be as close as we'll get to that perhaps?

Nobody thinks of the evil henchmen

aligator_am

naughtb4 wrote: »

What do the white walkers do when not marching?

Its a question that needs answering

I'd say they just chill...

aligator_am

Anyone else reckon Sam is going to have a Parents from Home Alone moment and be half way up the road in the wagon then let a roar of "annulment!!!"?

Wondering though the way it was worded by Gillie, was it that the name of the person Rhagar married not written in the book or just not mentioned so as it wasn't completely force fed to the audience?

If the book was left in Oldtown (was that the book he handed to the baby?) then how could Sam or whoever validate the claim? Not sure who in power would believe Bran about visions and the like?

Be interesting to see what they do with the last 2 episodes, any chance Cleganebowl could still happen? Wonder if they'll expand the budge to include those giant spiders? the thoughts of them always gave me the creeps

CMOTDibbler

aligator_am wrote: »

Anyone else reckon Sam is going to have a Parents from Home Alone moment and be half way up the road in the wagon then let a roar of "annulment!!!"?

Wondering though the way it was worded by Gillie, was it that the name of the person Rhagar married not written in the book or just not mentioned so as it wasn't completely force fed to the audience?

If the book was left in Oldtown (was that the book he handed to the baby?) then how could Sam or whoever validate the claim? Not sure who in power would believe Bran about visions and the like?

Be interesting to see what they do with the last 2 episodes, any chance Cleganebowl could still happen? Wonder if they'll expand the budge to include those giant spiders? the thoughts of them always gave me the creeps

It still would mean nothing to Sam. As far as he knows, Ned is Jon's father. It would only twig with him if somebody (Bran?) told him that Lyanna was Jon's mother. That should be enough to send him back to the books.

aligator_am

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

It still would mean nothing to Sam. As far as he knows, Ned is Jon's father. It would only twig with him if somebody (Bran?) told him that Lyanna was Jon's mother. That should be enough to send him back to the books.

That's actually a very good point! for some reason in the back of my head I was thinking he knew about Jon.

Daith

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

It still would mean nothing to Sam. As far as he knows, Ned is Jon's father. It would only twig with him if somebody (Bran?) told him that Lyanna was Jon's mother. That should be enough to send him back to the books.

Didn't the scene also show that Sam was paying attention to Gilly? He remembered the number of steps didn't he?

Someone is going to say Rhaegar and Sam will, as you said, remember.

Of course it's entirely possible it's never brought back up. It could be that the "son" of Ice and Fire is mentioned about the White Walkers, but his claim to the throne, his legitimacy, never comes up again.

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Delboy5

HBO Spain have leaked Episode 6 apparently......i haven't seen it....Yet!

podgemonster

In the Spanish version, Dany says "Scorchio" instead of Dracarays.

PIORUN

just watched leaked ep....very very good!

Loafing Oaf

PIORUN wrote: »

just watched leaked ep....very very good!

Aaargh you've ruined it on me, what's the point in watching it now.:mad::mad::mad:

CMOTDibbler

podgemonster wrote: »

In the Spanish version, Dany says "Scorchio" instead of Dracarays.

Kind of funny that the Spanish would translate a word that's in a non-existent language.

The Moldy Gowl

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Aaargh you've ruined it on me, what's the point in watching it now.:mad::mad::mad:

How did he ruin it on you?
Or are you being sarcastic?

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Loafing Oaf

The Moldy Gowl wrote: »

How did he ruin it on you?
Or are you being sarcastic?

The latter, attempting to send to send up those who freak out about the most indirect, content-free 'spolier' of a tv show/movie. Was on the receiving end of this in the GAA thread lately...

Son0vagun

Is the leaked episode in Spanish?